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How One Clumsy Ship Caused A Major Net Outtage

Ant writes "Here is an interesting world map of various Internet connections, showing how it took just one vessel to inflict the damage that brought down the internet for millions."

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  1. Re:3rd cable cut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Yea, if you read slashdot, you would have seen this news yesterday.

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/08/02/01/1912220.shtml

  2. So It Wasn't The Evil US's Fault??!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    It's funny see all the wild speculations and accusations that it was deliberate sabotage by the US the other day, when there was no proof whatsoever.

    Now that the facts have come out, I'd like to see those slashbots apologize for undermining the US at every turn and being so unpatriotic.

  3. That's no physical location map. by the_other_chewey · · Score: 5, Informative

    The image linked from the summary does not depict the physical locations of cables, but is a schematic of existing connections between points on the globe. The lines in that image have not much to do with where the cables actually are. A more realistic representation of (a subset of) the world's submarine cable networks would e.g. be this big PDF or, in a more comprehensive view, that one (sold for a mere $350 :-| ).

    1. Re:That's no physical location map. by jimmyswimmy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Interesting drawing. I was amazed to see that Cuba has no subsea internet connection at all. It's kind of interesting to see one of the larger countries in the area completely circumnavigated like that. Out of curiousity I looked to see what connection they use, and it looks like a completely satellite-based service from newcom-intl.com, judging from the traceroute responses and the huge delays which occur at that hop. Neat.

      Guess that's one way to avoid having your internet connection destroyed by an anchor...

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    2. Re:That's no physical location map. by anticypher · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Alcatel-Lucifer map shows only fibres that Alcatel Fibre and Submarine Systems built, plus a few that Lucent brought to the clusterfuc^Wmerger from the old AT&T Long Lines. It is very much a subset of the total fibre under the sea, although Alcatel is now the largest undersea fibre company since Tyco (née AT&T Long Lines) pretty much handed the market to the French.

      the AC

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  4. Re:3rd cable cut by aminorex · · Score: 5, Informative

    Two in the Mediterranean, another between Suez and Dubai somewhere, which is not in the Mediterranean at all.
    The nation of Iran appears to be entirely disconnected from the Internet by these events: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/asia.htm

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  5. See it to believe it by __aaqvdr516 · · Score: 5, Informative
    The cable that was cut is in a common anchoring point for ships waiting to transit the Suez. The Suez canal is only large enough to allow transit in one direction, which leads to a pileup of sorts at one end to the "lake" in the center. As a point of reference here's a picture of a US carrier entering the Suez canal. https://segue.atlas.uiuc.edu/index.php?action=site&site=rrosenb2

    Off into the distance you can see the anchoring area. All the cables except the one that goes around the horn of Africa go through this channel. Maybe now it doesn't look so far fetched?

    1. Re:See it to believe it by anticypher · · Score: 4, Informative

      I don't know where you are getting your information from, but hire a proctologist to put it back for you.

      There are no fibres running on the bottom of the Suez canal, all the fibres take an overland route. There are three major Egyptian landing areas in the Mediterranean, two west of Al Iskandariyah (Alexandria), and one to the east of Port Said, well away from the entry to the canal. The cable routes overland are now quite redundant, as cable cuts happen so often in Egypt every company now has at least two routes with circuit protection. On the Red Sea side, there are at least two landing points, at Abadiya and one across from there on the eastern side of the sea.

      All the cable landing zones are quite well marked on shipping charts (my google skills have failed me, I can't find an online chart site for Egypt, similar to this one for the UK). Ships are not supposed to drop anchor in those zones, no fishing allowed, no recreational boating, etc. At least in Europe, boaters can get a pretty heavy fine for dropping anchor in a restricted area, big enough that any captain who values his vessel/career knows to stay out of the areas. I doubt Egypt has such draconian enforcement, but the charts are clearly marked.

      For the two cuts off of Al Iskandariyah, there was a large storm in the eastern Med the day of the cuts, gale force 7 winds with large swells. So the local authority moved the anchorage area to west of Al Iskandariyah, and many ships ended up anchoring in the restricted zone, dragging their anchors as they were pulled along by the strong easterly winds.

      Only one cable near Egypt was cut at first, the second major cut was near France, which took out FLAG. There was then a third cut in the Egypt area, of the same FLAG fibre, but by a different ship dragging anchor. So FLAG got hit double hard.

      The most recent cut was somewhere down off of Dubai, which took out even more capacity. It's been an interesting week, as European banking traffic to the Emirates now has to flow all the way around the world the wrong way, and many of the intermediate carriers are choking on the traffic.

      the AC

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  6. Re:Send Them a Bill by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    They should follow the example of the telephone company. Find the owners of the ships and send them a bill for the repair costs. That will get their attention.


    Actually, ships are governed by maritime law, which is designed to protect and encourage commerce; I'm not sure if they even would be responsible for damage from an anchor to a cable lying on the seafloor. From my limited recollection, vessel owners liability is generally the value of the vessel (not including the cargo).

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  7. Re:Should be: How bad network design... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Informative

    They aren't total outages like you seem to think. There is redundancy. The internet is slower in those areas because some of their links are severed, but it's not out.

  8. Misleading graphic alert by AlpineR · · Score: 3, Informative

    The "World cable capacity" plot at the bottom of the map is misleading. Total capacity is 7.1 tbps and used capacity is 2.1 tbps. They visualized the values as circles, so the ratio of areas should be 7.1:2.1. But instead they set the diameters to that ratio. The result is that capacity appears 9% used when it is actually 30% used (and 80% purchased).

    The "Internet users affected by the Alexandria accident" plot to the left uses circles correctly.

  9. Colombia by puto · · Score: 3, Informative

    i will answer that. I am a half ass colombian(colombian pop) . I grew up in the states, but lived and worked in Colombia for a time, and know, or at least knew their infrastructure fairly well. Colombia at one point in time had two internet companies. EPM(emtelsa) which is state run and owned. And Telesat, which is privately owned, Enrique Biaz I think was the CEO, offered me job around 2002 when I was running around there. I just didnt want to move to Cali. I liked Manizales. Anyway Telesat in Colombia is the link that is down, so one provider is down, not the entire country, because most people use the Emtelsa, or whatever the have evolved into. So while telesat link is down(I think they have changed their name) the country is still online for most everyone else.

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  10. Re:3rd cable cut by emilper · · Score: 3, Informative

    it's not disconnected. Try this : http://www.khamenei.ir/

    Nobody was disconnected: besides the submarine cables, there are land cables and satellite connections, and the copper cables of old, which were used by telecoms.

  11. Re:Send Them a Bill by linuxscrub · · Score: 5, Informative

    I believe that many/all undersea cables are mapped.

    Ships/captains plying international waters must have up-to-date info. If they damage a cable that is on the maps, they are responsible.

    See the great WIRED article from Neal Stephanson on the laying of FLAG:
    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass_pr.html

    OK, it's an article from 1996, but it's one of the best WIRED articles (and looong) ever (back before they were owned by Conde Nast)

    L. Scrub

  12. Re:Send Them a Bill by KZigurs · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not really. If this is a ships fault - ignoring directions to anchor, marked warning signs (and there are a lot of them), causing an accident - recovery is very much possible and actually happens all the time with minor regional cables being cut by idiots (ish one incident every 6 months).

    The fun part is the fact that when you touch the backbone cables suddenly the [direct] damages rises in a few orders of magnitude. And at that point it becomes more economically feasible for insurer to pull up any lawyer around than just to shrug it off.

  13. Re:Everything into NYC? [Geography & Routing] by Wurm42 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why do so many of those transatlantic cables seem to land in New York?

    Two Reasons: Geography and Routing

    1) Geography: First, the Guardian's map is a little oversimplified. Most of those cables come ashore in Eastern Long Island or along a relatively narrow stretch of New Jersey coastline, about 50 miles south of NYC proper. They're in those places because of submarine geography. The sea floor isn't flat- there are mountains and canyons, etc. Ever tried to run network cable through a crowded office? Pain in the neck, right? Now imagine doing it with six-foot long tweezers and a blindfold...for 3,000 miles. The cable-layers pick the flattest, least cluttered path they can. In the mid-1950s, we started to get good sonar maps of the North Atlantic sea floor. Laying undersea cable is *expensive*, and there was a big burst of it as those maps started to take the guesswork (and a lot of the risk) out of the equation. And once a company found a good route, they tended to keep using it.

    Seafloor mapping:
    http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/03fire/background/mapping/mapping.html

    Timeline of transatlantic cables, 1951-2000:
    http://www.atlantic-cable.com/Cables/CableTimeLine/index1951.htm

    2) Routing. A *lot* of information passes through those cables. It's compressed (Hoffman encoding, anyone?), and at each end you have to decompress it and then route it back into the land line system. This is a big, complicated operation (Much more so in the '50s and '60s when so many of the US-Europe cables were laid), and it's cheaper to add capacity by laying more cables between existing terminals than to build new ones.

    Overview of cable topography & operations for one big cable operator, Apollo Systems:
    http://www.apollo-scs.com/networktopology/

    Note that some companies (including Apollo) are starting to build new routes- the economics for doing that are getting better as cable gets cheaper and data traffic grows (shame on all the Americans downloading video files from peers in Sweden).

    So yes, the undersea cable system *should* have much more redundancy, but it *won't* until somebody can make money building and selling that redundant capacity. And actually, these events will speed up that process; According to the Guardian, 50% of India's bandwidth is cut off. The people who own the pipes for the 50% that still works are having a *very* profitable week.

  14. Re:Injustice by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Informative
    TFA:

    According to reports, the internet blackout, which has left 75 million people with only limited access, was caused by a ship that tried to moor off the coast of Egypt in bad weather on Wednesday.
    Promises to be an interesting trip to the long green table, especially with the repair costs involved. Most stories I've heard of sailors and the LGT have a heavy Greek tragedy feel to them, even when the sailors are in the right.
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  15. Re:Now, I am not talking about nuclear attacks... by pixel.jonah · · Score: 2, Informative

    Every ISP and phone company in the world should have an agreement to provide emergency routing outside the usual patterns. Typically the failover would be at the cable level. This is something they do. Here's the T&C for SEA-ME-WE4 for example (pricing included): "Use of SMW4 to Restore other Cable Systems" PDF