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'Innovation In a Flash' Is a Myth

An anonymous reader writes "A New York Times article spells out what most of us probably already knew: real innovation takes lots of time and hard work to come to fruition. The article looks at the origins of new ideas, and attempts to dispel the myth that 'Eureka' moments create change. Comments author Scott Berkun, 'To focus on the magic moments is to miss the point. The goal isn't the magic moment: it's the end result of a useful innovation. Everything results from accretion. I didn't invent the English language. I have to use a language that someone else created in order to talk to you. So the process by which something is created is always incremental. It always involves using stuff that other people have made.'"

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  1. Exactly! by AlphaDrake · · Score: 5, Funny

    You may think my hamburger earmuffs were thought up in a flash. But it took a long time to get the pickle matrix just right.

  2. And that my friends... by Mantaar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And that, my friends, is *exactly* why Open Source is so successful and important.

    Now let's go manufacturing open source hardware...

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    1. Re:And that my friends... by leguirerj · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thats what the Patent System is for, to corral all those wild ideas, fence them off, and make anyone who can make them work, pay for them.

    2. Re:And that my friends... by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Open Source closed source doesn't effect if a product is innovative or not. There are many products that are open source and don't add anything new to the table, they are just trying to copy as many features as possible, of an established closed source project. The only "improvement" over the original design is using a different license for it. The same applies to some closed source projects, lets reinvent this open source project and make it closed source so we can package it and have control over it. There are also many innovative open source projects that really put the to the next step, or introduce a new concept that may or may not a hit. The same with many closed source projects. Just because a project is open source it doesn't mean you will have millions of people working on it, most project that are open source are programmed by one or two people. the same size as most Closed Source Project. The fact they decide to share the source is unrelated to innovation (on a technical level). The only advantage that open source has if someone wants to innovate off someone else's idea they at least do not need to start from scratch.

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    3. Re:And that my friends... by node+3 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I think you've got it completely backwards. Open Source is *not* about innovation, it's about building solid products. In general, the only thing truly innovative about Open Source software is the Open Source model itself.

      Innovation is a by-product of research, and research is something that is almost *never* done by Open Source developers. What Open Source is really good at is applying innovations already discovered. Essentially, engineering using known techniques.

      Now let's go manufacturing open source hardware... And what innovations would you expect from Open Source hardware (aside from the model itself)?

      That's why Open Source is not taking over from the end-user perspective--it's just not innovating enough. It's only for the types of applications which are essentially solved, where progress is made by incrementally refining something, that Open Source is taking over and will be unstoppable.

      Research is expensive. Very expensive. The only reason Open Source has taken off as a software development model is that software development can be done very cheaply. It will be quite difficult for an Open Source team to create new and innovative hardware. They just won't have the resources.
  3. Oh, really? by Max+Threshold · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Which major IP holder sponsored the "research" behind the article?

  4. Innovation by Wowsers · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have a patent on innovation :-).

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  5. Uh, I've had those moments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All the time I have little flashes of realization or inspiration. Being that I'm a software & hardware designer and developer, had I not had these "flashes" I would never have made any of the things I did. The author of this article is selling opinion and personal viewpoint as some sort of psychological "fact". I wish slashdot wouldn't post these stories because it gives the impression this opinion is widely held or fact.

  6. intellectual property by User+956 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I didn't invent the English language. I have to use a language that someone else created in order to talk to you. So the process by which something is created is always incremental. It always involves using stuff that other people have made.

    Lucky for us, corporate america is catching on, and they're probably working on a subscription service for that incremental innovation. Because you can't just have un-owned ideas out there, floating around.

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  7. only 10% imagination by alfrenovsky · · Score: 5, Funny

    Investigation is 10% imagination and 90% perspiration. That's why most investigators smells so bad.

  8. One Premise Argument by Wazukkithemaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have to use a language that someone else created in order to talk to you. So the process by which something is created is always incremental. It always involves using stuff that other people have made.

    I speak therefore everything is always incremental? Ok Descartes...

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  9. Eureka Moments Do Happen... by rbowles · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Its just that most often, they come at the tail end of alot of hard work. Everything comes together in a flash, seemingly in one brilliant moment. Those moments are what many of us live for, but in truth, they really aren't the result of our brains exceeding physical and computational limits and suddenly operating at infinite clock-speed. The truth is you were probably working on the problem for some time (possibly unconsciously). Give yourself a little credit for having an efficient background scheduler.

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    1. Re:Eureka Moments Do Happen... by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sometimes the answer reveals itself in a dream rather than a consious flash, Bohr's atomic model being a famous example.

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  10. Re:quoting Newton (again...) by jimicus · · Score: 4, Funny

    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders."
        - Hal Abelson

  11. This is news? by tygerstripes · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Is anyone surprised by this "revelation"? How many of the great innovations of their time were invented by two or more parties, completely independently and almost simultaneously? Powered flight, steam-engines, internal combustion engine, radio transmission...

    Quite apart from the "10% inspiration, 90% perspiration" adage, most of the big technological advances are widely understood to have come about simply because it was their time - the foundations were in place, the need was there, and one of society's more creative and industrious members put the two together. That's called progress, people.

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  12. Eureka moments do exist by rucs_hack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The mistake is thinking that they arrive without any prior work. They arrive usually not in the absence of previous work, but in the absence of a previous solution. How can you have a sudden idea about a solution unless you've been working on the problem in the first place?

    I had one a few years back, when as far as I could tell, a whole years research was about to go down the toilet because I'd hit a brick wall.

    I spent several days stressed out of my head over it, and finally resolved to get out and do something else.

    Whilst I was relaxing the solution suddenly popped into my head, complete. If that isn't a Eureka moment, then I don't know what is.

    I certainly had done plenty of work prior to this event, but I had no idea that solution was possible until that moment, none of my work directly pointed to it that I could tell (consciously at any rate, obviously part of my brain got it). It took seconds to realise it, and an hour to write it down, then four months to instantiate. It worked even better then I'd dared think possible.

  13. Re:You can't discard the role of intuition. by blahplusplus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Intuition is pattern recognition and changing the lenses (angle) from which you look at something, that someone took the time to work out.

    The key is, as Schopenhauer said: "to think something no one has thought yet, while looking at something that everybody see's" which is fancy way of saying: Keep changing the perspective (interpretive framework) and using other seemingly unrelated subjects to try and interpret it in terms of something else.

    Millions of people have similar or the exact same leads on great ideas everyday but they don't have the time or the fast mind to follow up on them. IMHO it's not that people can't figure it out given enough time, it is who and what you come into contact with that triggers the lead up to deofuscate the idea and THEN the persistence to follow that 'intuition'. Intuition is necessary but intuition

    Part of the problem is the education system itself amd it's attempt to rush learning and disavow thinking about things differently in order to pound out 'educated' workers. People that realize there are connections between everything that we can't see and have initiative despite lack of formal education were some of the greatest innovators.

  14. inspiration and perspiration by johnrpenner · · Score: 5, Interesting


    "Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration."
    (Thomas Alva Edison)

    "If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once
    with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found
    the object of his search. I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that
    a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labour."
    (Nikola Tesla, New York Times, October 19, 1931)

  15. does NYT write anything by superwiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that doesn't promote some sort of socialist mindset? Yes, of course, the innovator is no one. He owes the work of his mind to the society and other people who made his innovation possible. Sure, sure. The individual is nothing and contributing to society is the only noble reason for living. What a bunch of nonsense! Innovation comes from two sources: wondering of the curious and gradually developed vision of forward-planning. The first is instant the latter is painstaking and slow. It is Mozart vs Salieri, if you will. And while the Salieri's make innovation useful, without the Mozarts it would never be possible. Standing on the shoulders of giants is important, but to say that it is all that matters when it comes to innovation is to refuse to acknowledge that innovation takes standing taller than anyone has stood before.

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