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Microsoft Upgrades Vista Kernel in SP1

KrispySausage writes "One of the big features discussed in early speculation of Windows Vista SP1 was the kernel upgrade, which was supposed to bring the operating system into line with the Longhorn kernel used in Windows Server 2008. With Vista SP1 going RTM, there hasn't been so much as a peep from Microsoft about the mooted kernel update. Has it happened? Well the answer is yes it has. Presumably the main reason for Microsoft's silence on the subject is that as they're keen to promote the improvements and enhancements to Vista, rather than placing emphasis on a kernel upgrade, which some people might see as a risk of newly-introduced instability."

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  1. confused by farkus888 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought "improvements and enhancements" was MS marketing speak for "newly-introduced instability".

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    1. Re:confused by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's interesting you say that--I just installed the release candidate for SP3 on my XP VM, and I'll tell you--it made a huge difference to the performance of XP. It now functions just fine with the meager amount of RAM I allotted to it, and it functions well with Office 2007 (i.e., it doesn't take forever to open or run slow) despite, once again, the meager amount of RAM I allow it to use.

      And, of course, as you noted, XP is losing support next year--just as it's running better than ever!

    2. Re:confused by Joe+U · · Score: 5, Informative
      Ok, I don't like replying to myself, but I didn't do enough research.

      When a new service pack is released, Microsoft will provide either 12 or 24 months of support for the previous service pack
      When support for a product ends, support of the service packs for that product will also end. The product's support lifecycle supersedes the service pack support policy Windows has a 24 month policy

      Mainstream support for Windows XP Pro ends 4/14/2009, which means they're not going to sell it or add new features to the core OS.

      Extended support for Windows XP Pro ends 4/8/2014, which means no new updates at all past that point.

  2. I dont get it by BlowHole666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I do not get it. On my Suse box I see Linux kernel updates all the time. So Microsoft Updated the kernel to match 2008. How do we not know the only difference between the two kernels was 10 lines of code or something? So the version/build number changed. We do not know what changed. Can a normal user tell exactly what the differences were between Windows 2000 and XP (NOTICE I SAID NORMAL USER!!!) no they can not. I do not think normal people (the majority of Microsoft's user base) will know the difference. Maybe someone working for an anti virus company will notice or maybe a slashdot reader but not the majority of the users. Honestly I think this is just more slashdot fud on the front page to bash Microsoft for doing something that Linux does every few months.

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  3. Re:FAIL by domatic · · Score: 5, Informative

    First of all, I don't want to use Vista. I now run a half crippled XP because HP refuse point blank to supply XP drivers for this model.



    This doesn't necessarily mean that the drivers don't exist. They'll be harder to find though. Here's what you do:

    1. Go to Control Panel -> System
    2. Click on the Hardware tab
    3. Click the Device Manager button
    4. For each device with a Red X or Yellow !
            a. Right Click and get Properties
            b. Click the Details tab
            c. Select "Matching Device ID" from the dropdown.

    5. Shake Google for those Strings. Sometimes you'll hit paydirt just searching for the part before the ampersand.

    You can also use tools like AIDA32 and Unknown Device Identifier to identify the hardware. Once you've identified your hardware, you'll probably do OK with the actual manufacturer's reference drivers. While it's possible that a vendor like HP is using slightly bastardized versions of standard chipsets that thus require custom drivers, that usually isn't the case. You may even be able to get the drivers from HP themselves if there are similar models that were supplied with XP.
  4. Re:consumer vs. geek by swordgeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Honestly, the user SHOULDN'T care!

    Back in 'the day', Bill Joy said "Operating systems are like underwear - Nobody really wants to look at them." This was true until Linux started getting attention, and MS turned their efforts to becoming a 10-ton monster by selling OSes. Since then, the word OS has morphed into meaning a feature-rich (feature-laden?) bundles of applications along with the software infrastructure required to run them. (Whereas formally the OS is really just the infrastructure itself.)

    Now we're talking about kernels. NOBODY other than developers and support folks should need to care about their kernel. In fact, most people don't know what a kernel actually is, and that's OK. In fact, it's even good--it's pointless knowledge for end users.

    I'm not one to support MS, but not blathering on about the kernel in end-user release notes is the right thing to do.

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