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Steve Fossett Declared Dead

Parallax Blue writes "Millionaire adventurer Steve Fossett, who risked his life seeking to set records in high-tech balloons, gliders and jets, was declared dead Friday, 5 months after he vanished while flying in an ordinary small plane. The self-made business tycoon, who in 2002 became the first person to circle the world solo in a balloon, was last seen Sept. 3 after taking off in a single-engine plane from an airstrip near Yerington, Nev., heading toward Bishop, Calif. He was 63."

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  1. Wife wanted his will put into effect? by KingArthur10 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the sounds of it, Steve's wife wanted his last will and testament read and put into effect, and that's what prompted the ruling in the first place. CNN reported that "Judge Jeffrey Malak made the ruling after an emotional presentation from Fossett's wife of 38 years, Peggy, who also asked that her husband's will be entered into probate."

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    1. Re:Wife wanted his will put into effect? by saibot834 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Steve Fossett has been missing for 5 months and his chances of survival are very close to zero. It must be a huge psychological stress waiting for your probable-dead husband, so I really can understand that his wife wanted to put a stop to this uncertainty. Sure, it's just something bureaucratic, but now everyone can say that Steve Fossett is dead, instead of just thinking it.

    2. Re:Wife wanted his will put into effect? by DerekLyons · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not just psychological stress - but a huge legal stress as well. She very likely can't deposit any checks made out to him, she can't file taxes... The companies he owns/operates are in limbo... etc... etc...

    3. Re:Wife wanted his will put into effect? by jd · · Score: 3, Funny

      Unless the aircraft is opened, the judge should rule him dead and alive at the same time.

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  2. The man died with open eyes doing what he loved by benzapp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is no tragedy; we should be celebrating this man's life. We should all be as lucky to live such a full life, and die as old men under such circumstances. When most reach old age, they give up on life entirely. When your body begins to fail, it takes real courage to tempt fate on a regular basis.

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    1. Re:The man died with open eyes doing what he loved by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

      I like to post dangerously on Slashdot to keep the blood flowing.

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  3. Boy, will she have some explaining to do... by denzacar · · Score: 5, Funny

    When he returns from China seven years later, after his ninja training, so he could fight crime in the streets as a billionaire super-hero.

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    1. Re:Boy, will she have some explaining to do... by Glyphstream · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not just fighting crime, but fighting crime in the bat-hot air ballon.

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  4. Big wilderness out there by Desert+Tripper · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It amazes me, especially living in the area of endless urbania that is the Greater L.A. area, that there are still uninhabited areas so vast that a plane could crash and not be found after exhaustive searching with high-tech equipment.

    Then again, there is an almost-intact crashed plane near the western (Highway 190) entrance to Death Valley, near Towne Pass, that's in plain view of the highway yet almost impossible to see unless you know what you are looking for. It crashed in the 50s; it was part of a CIA mission and lost power over the Amargosa Valley. The crew bailed out near Furnace Creek, if my memory serves me correctly, then the plane crashed in the Panamint Range to the west.

    Some pics from someone who hiked to the site: http://rides.webshots.com/album/292358776FDMVRo

    After seeing that on one of my outings, Fossett's plight isn't so incredible to me. Sucks to be him, but he certainly didn't live a hard knocks life prior to his demise.

  5. OK That's it by bperkins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How do we shut off tags?

    Right under this story I see a tag of "whogivesafuck."

    That's just not acceptable.

    1. Re:OK That's it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why not? Honestly, who does give a fuck? Presumably Fossett's family and friends, but Slashdot readers are presumably generally neither. He was a businessman, and not one who changed our culture (either as techies or as people in general). My condolences to his family and friends, but as far as the general Slashdot readership is concerned, his death simply does not matter.

    2. Re:OK That's it by tuffy · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Help & Preferences" -> "Index" -> "General", then uncheck "Show Tags".

      I turned them off a long time ago since they provide no value.

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    3. Re:OK That's it by thewils · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No man is an island, entire of itself
      every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main
      if a clod be washed away by the sea,
      Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were,
      as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were
      any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind
      and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls
      it tolls for thee.

      -- John Donne

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    4. Re:OK That's it by drew30319 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Yesterday was the two-year anniversary of my only child's murder.

      Within days of my daughter's murder somebody posted a message to me on a public forum stating "that bitch got popped."

      Do I think that this person literally thought of my daughter as a "bitch?" No, but I do think that the opportunity to feel empowered by pissing me off was hard for them to resist. Unfortunately a lot of people are pricks and if there's the chance that they can appear to be some cool badass by showing how much of a prick they are then they'll jump at it.

      Do I truly care about Steve Fossett's death? No, I didn't know him and frankly have far more to worry about. But do I have a sense of decorum when it comes to appreciating the pain that his friends and family are going through? Absolutely - and this wasn't a revelation I arrived at while I grieve but rather my basic human ability to empathize for others.

      But then again I have many ways to feel personally empowered without needing to resort to "whogivesafuck" tagging.

      And - I'm not a prick.

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  6. Inappropriate tagging" by nebaz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whoever tagged this article "whogivesafuck" should turn in their human card at the door. Sure, you may not have known this guy personally, but that tag is in really poor taste. How would you like it if after someone you knew died, someone came up to you and said "he's dead. so what?".

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    1. Re:Inappropriate tagging" by ScrewMaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, they've been taught that being obnoxious is cool, because there are no consequences to bad behavior in a forum such as this. Now, if each of us could click a "jackass" button, and when a certain number of them get pressed the individual responsible receives a brief 30 kV electric shock ... now that might do it.

      And I'm not so sure that they're as young as you think: I'm pretty certain that some of them have had plenty of time to grow up but didn't.

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    2. Re:Inappropriate tagging" by Anoraknid+the+Sartor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Was Fosset known to you personally? If so - what on earth are you doing demanding sympathy on slashdot?

      I have no particular emotional involvement in the man's life or death - and nor do many others. That isn't to say I would have wished him ill - I just don't see why I should care. He seemed to have enjoyed life - good for him. This is just the judicial declaration of something that most people assumed long ago.

      And if the death of someone I loved was reported on Slashdot, "who gives a fuck" would be an entirely appropriate tag.

      More than that - it would be rather creepy if you DID give a fuck. Displays of public grief for people we do not know, but with whom we pretend an intimacy to which we are not really entitled are distasteful and should always be challenged.

      I did not tag the article. That said, without wishing Fosset either well, or ill, but just on general principals that this is someone who I did not know, reports of the judicial declaration of death of whom are cluttering up Slashdot, I echo the tag: "Whogivesafuck?"

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    3. Re:Inappropriate tagging" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While I don't agree with the tag on this story, and while I don't think that there's a need to voice your opinion with a tag like that if you truly don't care, I can't say I can't understand why people might not care. About 100000 people die each day - more than one per second, as a very rough estimate. Does anyone on Slashdot - you, me, Taco, whoever - care about them? No, of course not. It's just life. And for someone who doesn't care about Fossett, his death is just life, too - another blimp on the death radar. Another statistic.

      It's still tactless to tag the story as "whogivesafuck", but the opinion as such is understandable.

    4. Re:Inappropriate tagging" by nebaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not the opinion that bothers me, it is the obnoxiousness. Clearly the person who wrote "whogivesafuck" cares enough to go tag the article. If they clearly didn't care, they wouldn't bother tagging the article in the first place. The opinion is not obnoxious, people die all the time, and for people you don't know, it is not surprising that you truly don't care, but tagging the article this way in a public forum is somewhat tantamount to yelling in an open forum "See me, I don't give a shit about this guy at all". Why bother? It just makes you look like a jerk.

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  7. As a pilot, I hate it when... by Nick+Driver · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...people say "he died doing what he loved". No pilot loves crashing a plane. Whatever had gone terribly wrong at the end of Steve's last flight, I can guarantee you he was not loving it. I'd bet that the first emotion that he felt was anger at whatever caused the initial deviation from normal flight, followed by shock and apprehension in the final seconds once he realized he was in serious trouble.

    Fortunately I have never been in such a dire predicament while behind the controls of a plane, the worst that's happened to me was a partial loss of power after takeoff during climbout in a C172, but I had plenty of altitude and an airport right behind me in easy gliding distance in case the engine quit completely, but I landed normally without incident. I can tell you I was certainly NOT loving it, and the emotion going thru my head was that I was pissed off at the airplane.

    Two pilot friends of mine have died in small plane crashes, both due to making really stupid errors in judgement. As they drilled their respective planes into the dirt, they were not doing what they loved either. Both of them took friends and family members to their deaths with them too.

    1. Re:As a pilot, I hate it when... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      people say "he died doing what he loved". No pilot loves crashing a plane.

      You're being overly literal. That's a generally accepted shorthand for "at least he was engaged in an activity he enjoyed, not rotting away in an Alzheimers ward or in the agonizing throes of cancer". Steve was definitely doing something he loved, save but for the last few minutes.

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    2. Re:As a pilot, I hate it when... by fireboy1919 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can guarantee you he was not loving it. I'd bet that the first emotion that he felt was anger at whatever caused the initial deviation from normal flight, followed by shock and apprehension in the final seconds once he realized he was in serious trouble.

      You may be wrong about "what he loved" is referring to.

      I personally, would be quite happy to die in a fiery explosion that produced a crater big enough to be visible from the moon. That'd be sweet (as long as no one else got hurt)! In that case, crashing wouldn't be what I loved, but making a crater would be.

      "Doing what he loved" in some cases might also refer to some recreational pharmaceuticals and individuals of negotiable affection (though probably not in this case). I mean, with those involved, you might not actually notice you crashed until the ground rises up and smites you.

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    3. Re:As a pilot, I hate it when... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He died alone, in some unknown place. That's supposed to be "better"?

      My dad died alone in his front yard of a sudden, massive heart attack. We didn't get to gather around him, tell stories, and say goodbye as he faded. One day I got a call from my screaming mom, and that was it - he was dead.

      Know what? That was better. We were together while he was still alive and healthy, and his family's last memories of him are as we always knew him: strong and happy and himself. I wouldn't change that for the world, and I know inside that he wouldn't either.

      So, yeah. Steve Fossett died well.

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  8. Welcome to a new low by Maavin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This tag marks a new low on slashdot.

    Maybe the tagger is just jealous, because this man did the right thing with all his money. Instead of attending stupid show-off parties, he used his money to make his dreams become reality.

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    1. Re:Welcome to a new low by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 4, Funny

      Instead of attending stupid show-off parties, he used his money to make his dreams become reality.

      Two chicks at the same time?

  9. Am I the only one who likes to dream that... by EridanMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The other day I was reading about the littany of Mr. Fossett's achievements. In an age where records are set and fall with each of our ephemeral 15 minutes of fame, Mr. Fossett managed to do something truly extraordinary: become a legend. The moment Fossett vanished, I was in the air in my Cherokee not 100nm from his departure field. It was a mundane day of flying, if any day spent rattling around two miles in the air in an over-sized beer-can pulled by a 1920's tractor motor over the least hospitable terrain in the lower-48 can be called 'mundane'. The Nevada desert has an amazing way of making a man seem both profoundly alone and free, regardless of the technology within he wraps himself. That day of flying will forever be seared into my mind. In a world of mundane, Steve Fossett successfully made the transition from mere mortal to legend. His records and legacy stand so tall that the stories of his achievements will inspire my children's children alongside the stories Earhart and Lindberg. And yes, while a mourn the loss of the man (and I do keep a guilty hope that he's just chilling down in the Bahama's somewhere, enjoying his retirement), It was the legendary ending to the story of legendary achievement: something to celebrate and honor, not mourn and regret. Thank you Steve Fossett. Rest In Peace, you've earned it.

    1. Re:Am I the only one who likes to dream that... by exploder · · Score: 3, Funny

      TThe moment Fossett vanished, I was in the air in my Cherokee not 100nm from his departure field. 100 nanometers? That's no ordinary small plane!

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  10. Re:Faked death by gobbo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is to benefit from faking a death when one already has money? I think other reasons perhaps.

    We had a good friend of the family go missing and presumed dead when he was in his late 50's. He was wealthy (not stinking rich, but had owned a car dealership and good investments for 30 years). The circumstances caused our family to think that he had staged things, including insider info (such as a rented car... unusual... and certain affairs nicely wrapped up, including insurance).

    Why, one wonders, would he do such a thing when he was at the top of his career and independently wealthy? Easy.

    • kids grown and doing OK, if clingy -- obligations resolved
    • overbearing wife, lovely and charming but man did he have patience
    • business now ran itself
    • a long-running nostalgia for his home city, Genoa
    • well-behaved and upstanding for too long
    • a semi-public figure
    • success is boring and easy when it's assured
    • no doubt, a secret life on the side
    • lots and lots of lead time to stash some cash
  11. Guest Appearnce by aplusjimages · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is all part of the plan to have Steve show up on ABC's LOST as one of the survivors in the background.

    too soon, too soon

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  12. Billions and Billions... by Vellmont · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Why is Fossett's wife in a rush to declare that her husband is dead?

    Because it's probably pretty hard to run an estate of a billionaire without the guy being dead. Even billionaires have bills to pay.

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  13. Re:Jim Gray by magarity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is Fossett's wife in a rush to declare that her husband is dead?
     
    5 months is hardly 'in a rush' - remember with Fosset there are billions on the line and political and legal positioning to grab a slice of it will just pile up more and more the longer she waits. She's doing what needs to be done to protect the estate, as callous as that sounds but it needs to be done. One assumes someone who lives dangerously and has so much money like Fosset has left a will but greedy relatives and business partners can chew it all up in legal bills rather than whatever it was Fosset wanted done with his assets after he was gone.

  14. Re:Sad... by Deadstick · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It makes you realise just how utterly huge this place is

    It would take very roughly 1,750,000,000,000 light single-engine airplanes to cover the dry-land area of this planet -- or 15,500,000,000 for Nevada. Yes, it's a very big place. Aerial searches that find nothing are not in the least uncommon. An FAA district office I visited in Denver some years back had a wall map showing the last known positions of over thirty aircraft just in Colorado. Even Ohio, the most uniformly populated state, has one or two. Like to try an expensive science-fair project? Make a full-size cardboard effigy of a crashed airplane, have someone place it in a random spot in an area of, say, 20 x 20 miles, then charter an airplane and look for it.

    It's spooky, really, but I have to think that there'll be a Slashdot story in a few years about how his bones and his plane were found using new Google Maps Streetview - Desert Edition.

    There is an organized project trying to do that, right now.

    rj