Robot Interprets, Plays Back Dreams
foobarx writes "Digital artists have created a humanoid robot which uses brainwave activity recorded during sleep to playback an interpretation of your dreams. The artists, Brendan Burns and Fernando Orellana used machine learning to find patterns in the brainwaves and then matched these patterns to dreams which they remembered having. Others have noted the possible hazards of this new technology."
This could be embarrassing if it reenacts my wet dreams of Eva Longoria...Ummm my wife I mean, ya my wife!
Ya mean, like mind control?
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll pass on this one...
Fernando Orellana was my professor for a digital art class I took in college. He was way into the computer as a tool for creating artwork, and the fusion of traditional art with the modern and bleeding edge digital techniques. Interestingly, he asked the class one day what each of us would do with an unlimited budget for an art project. No one thought to ask him what he would do but it looks like this is certainly a hint. He's a great guy and has some cool ideas, I'll have to look him up when I'm at school for alumni weekend this year.
I watched the robot video and if it were me, that robot would be humping its hips making the energizer bunny look like a slackard!
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How long until an Augmentor appears?
of whether you are responsible for what your robot does while re-enacting your dreams...
...at least according to an earlier slashdot article. In a lot of dreams you're simply dealing with uncomfortable situations. It seems like a pretty useless thing to interpret dreams. They are only relevant to the given person anyway and totally useless for a third party, because no conclusions should be drawn on them.
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"Might" do? So, if I'm experiencing high-activity REM, I might be flying...or I might be scared? There's a big difference between those two activities (well, alt least there is for me).
It sounds like Fernando Orellana and Brendan Burns have created a robot whose function is to speculate wildly on what someone might have been dreaming.
Big deal. I can do that right now, and I can do it for free.
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I swear to god, I don't think your sister is more beautiful, it was just a dream.
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... it moves its head based on eye movements, and dances around based on EEG data. There's no actual interpretation of the content of the dream, other than that more active EEG and REM periods correspond to more activity from the robot. It wouldn't know if you were dreaming about flying, or about Eva Longoria, or about going for a jog.
Just using a machine to carry out your dirty work does not let you off the hook.
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Kinda sounds like minority report... maybe we need to get tom cruise on the scene for this.
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can the robot do my work for me?
Yeah, robots reading human dreams, but whoop. Wake me up when we can read robot dreams. When we find out if they dream of electric sheep, then you'll have something.
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Bender: [murmuring in his sleep] Kill all humans, kill all humans, must kill all...
Fry: Bender, wake up!
Bender: I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it.
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I don't know how many times dreams have ended just as they were about to get really good. . .
What?
A novel idea (I think) to record brainwaves and try to match them against recordings of known dreams.
We can all think of things that 'might' go wrong, or that could be misused, but aside from that I can see a whole lot of 'my dream robot/interpreter/$500 mystic told me
- I should not date you anymore
- rice-a-roni causes cancer
- my dog/cat saw your children playing doctor/nurses
- President Bush is a reptile
Yes, I can forsee some crazy shit coming out of this technology
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The ship is sailing merrily along, when the sailors rescue a man floating on a piece of driftwood. He tells them he's fleeing an island where dreams come true. The sailors want to set a course for this island immediately. "Not daydreams," he tells them, "real dreams!"
The sailors quickly decide they don't want to go there after all.
What if I do the same thing, and I do get different results?
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Robot Observes Dreams, Does Interpretive Dance
Cue the posts about advertising in dreams....
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
I guess this one would if it analyzed the dreams of CmdrTaco!!! :)
Artist makes up dance, makes robot do it while you sleep.
-Rick
"Most people in the U.S. wouldn't know they live in a tyrannical state if it walked up and grabbed their junk." - MyFirs
We may not know if androids dream of electric sheep but thanks to this robot, we'll know if you do! Perv.
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Get out of my head!
"The fight for freedom has only just begun." - Geert Wilders
An interpretation of the English language, perhaps?
Look, darn it: The word "playback" is a noun. You do not "turnoff"
a computer. You do not "rundown" the street. You do not "pickup"
a burger... And you do not "playback" a dream interpretation.
Got it?
What kind of dance would the robot be doing for your wet dream?
Mine? I'm too old, he'd probably keel over with a circuit overload.
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
Of course, the robot malfunctions if you happen to be dreaming of electric sheep. It can't interpret the signal.
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
Here is a youtube clip of how a played back dream would appear.
"Sure, this is not dream enactment proper, but it is as close as we are going to get in the not too distant future."
As someone who does dream research, I can tell you that this ain't remotely close to dream enactment.
It interpreted my dreams well enough, but in them my sheep weren't electric.
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In a lesser-published trial, the robot was recorded fishing out a credit card, leaving the lab, and running off to the mall to buy a pair of Lightspeed Briefs.
The hurdle for this technology to have any practical meaning is that an interpretation of your dreams based on brainwaves while asleep can never be any better than an interpretation of your thoughts based on brainwaves while you are alive.
Meaning that this would not be an issue until the day when someone is able to put a hat on your head that shows on a screen exactly what you are thinking of.
And when that happens we have bigger issues on our hands.
I hope it's not publicly funded.
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Dream watching can be highly addictive.... Especially if your name happens to be Claire.
Christopher Walken and Natalie Wood did this already in Brainstorm (1983). If I remember correctly, it gave her this insatiable urge to go swimming.
More than iron, more than lead, more than gold I need electricity.
I need it more than I need lamb or pork or lettuce or cucumber.
I need it for my dreams.
--Racter
They'll have to include a little automatic weapon if they want it to interpret my dreams. And an inflatable sheep. Oh, and a little gimp costume. Don't ask...
It gripped her hand gently. 'Regret is for humans,' it said.
Wife? What is this 'wife' you speak of?
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This reminds me of Clifford D. Simak's Bronco from Cemetery World.
http://talesfromthedeadlands.blogspot.com/2005/09/cemetery-world.html
World reknowned roboticist Dr. Thomas Light of Light Labs, Inc. has announced today that this dream-reenacting robot, commonly known as "Dream Man", is not a threat to the safety of the free world. "Dream Man", so Light, "is one of [Dr.] Albert [Wily]'s more stupid creations. He fits right in with Plant Man and Charge Man."
"Reverse engineering Dream Man's weapon is definitely something I look forward to. Albert's stupid ideas never fail to crack me up", added Light.
Light also announced that he will be sending the autonomous weapon of mass destruction codenamed "Mega Man" to destroy Dream Man along with seven other so called "Robot Masters", which form the latest iteration in the ongoing Light/Wily feud that has been waged since Wily's theft of several robot prototypes from Light Labs in 199X.
The United Nations Security Council has announced that it fully supports Light, even though like usual it has no idea about what's actually going on or why the world is supposed to be in danger. They do, however, support anyone who stands up to would-be world dominators, especially ones they perceive as zany.
Meanwhile, Light has drawn considerable criticism over discarding the weapon data from the last encounter with Wily's Robot Masters. During the conflicts, Light reverse-engineers the weapons used by the Robot Masters in order to provide Mega Man with additional firepower. However, as soon as Wily is defeated, the new weapons are summarily discarded in what Light's detractors see as a display of shortsightedness.
"Seriously", so Japanese Minister of Defense Shigeru Ishiba, "even though Dream Man doesn't look very threatening, he might prove difficult to defeat with just a puny plasma cannon. A few Crash bombs or a burst of Atomic Fire would probably do him in easily, but as Light insists on throwing away perfectly good weapon data Rockman [as the Japanese call Mega Man] is going to have a bit of a fight ahead of him."
Ishiba added that Japan would be happy to provide cover fire or E-tanks if needed.
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If the put one of these on any male's mind they would get enough money they could easily pay off the machine. and the Obligatory I for one, welcome our new Porn making Dream Machine overlords!
So what happens if you have a dream about a dream reading robot?
Okay, true story. Here's the dream I had this morning.
I had been called in for an interview for a head football coach at a certain university and was hired. (I'm a software QA engineer by trade... I played football in high school as a freshman... why I would be hired, I have no idea.) Anyway, I decided to take it, because who wouldn't want a chance to try and be a football coach. Well, I was hired because they wanted to give a nobody, an unheard of, a chance to rebuild a pretty depleted team (like 20 guys were left for the entire team.)
Because I didn't think it would be full time I also interviewed for a tech job in the area and got it. Once I got to the school and started my first day, I realized being a head football coach was going to be full time and dropped the tech job. (Well, DUH! it's going to be a full time job.) After walking around campus, meeting the "team" and some of the other coaches, trying to figure out my essentials to get the job going, I woke up.
Yeah, I have no idea what it means. The university in question is a public state school in a state I will likely never live in.
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So, for any given action/event E, for which we don't know the specifics, there will be a substitute action/event E' that can be used to replace it. We'll lose all the details and nuances, but it's good enough to get a feel for what is happening. But there's usually a very few overarching ideas, your X' values.
So long as you're hyper-aggressive about mapping E onto X (but allowing E' to figure in multiple X as E'), and are hyper-aggressive about mapping X into Y (but again allowing X' to figure in multiple Y as X'), then you would have a robot that sketched out a very abstract represenation of the dream, finishing on an overview of any core, central theme there may have been.
I don't know to say if that's what this robot does, but my guess is that it probably doesn't, and that it certainly doesn't use the kinds of signals filtering or signal resolution I'd consider worthwhile. A neat toy to have, a definitely neat direction to experiment with, but I'm guessing that they could make it ten times what it is now with a little extra coding, a little extra manpower, and a trivial budget for a University.
Let the research continue, but PLEASE eliminate the grosser errors in the methodology? Pretty please?
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Dreams are mostly subconscious activity, usually not governed by any "deliberate" conscious thinking. Due to this fact you will most likely experience things in a dream that passes through your mind at that time. That's often why you'll experience your alarm clock's ringing being a part of the dream the second before you wake up. The same applies to thinking "Oh I hope X doesn't happen!" in a dream and at the same instant... it does.
All this is nice and well, but the relation to the topic is that dreams are very fragile and easily recalled incorrectly. Subconscious activity is by nature not conscious which means that conscious attempts to recreate a dream may often lead to "filling in the gaps" with newly created imagery. Dream interpretation is a good example of such an event depending on the way the interpretation is done.
But then again... it's art - who are we are not to interpret it - we might get it wrong...
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That with enough of these robots, an internet connection a central repository of dreams, and a learning protocol, that true dream mimicking could be accomplished? I won't call this dream interpretation, that would require an Expert AI system programmed with cognitive science and or Freudian principles (depending on you psychological bent). It could be the ultimate online game.
The headline and summary are almost worse than TFA in terms of being misleading junk. Almost.
TFA: > Using an algorithm, the creators discovered a set of brainwave patterns, to each pattern a pre-programmed behavior was assigned.
They *assigned* a pre-programmed behavior to an EEG pattern. The programmed behavior has nothing to do with what was actually going on in the mind.
They seem to entirely skip over the fact that EEG patterns can be identical to the point of high statistical significance and be cause by extremely different stimuli.
"Using an algorithm".... well, that makes it all scientifical and everything, so that's OK then. What a verbal turd.
"I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
Hey, wasn't there an episode of Max Headroom about this? Some television network was harvesting people's dreams for ratings or something?
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Allow my robot to explain through interpretive dance.
Me lost me cookie at the disco.
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Bah! i want the Dream Recorder that the cat used on Red Dwarf.
This thing is an abomination of all that is good sweet and tech-related, and anything even remotely similar. Did you even watch the video?! It does a (bad)INTERPRETIVE DANCE of YOUR DREAMS!... Excuse me i need to go vomit.
While a persons conscious awareness is able to discern truth from falsehood, the subconscious just takes all it gets and accepts it as true.
So all it would take would be have a speaker to give 'cues' based upon what the camera is detecting so shape/direct.
I only do as teddy tells me.
Your brain's neurotransmitters adopt (random?) levels during sleep. Since your consciousness interprets the emotional state produced by the neurotransmitter configuration as a psychological state (reality), you experience your dreams as real. The almost infinite number of configurations your neurotransmitters can take make it a harder code to break than any crypto in use so the robot thesis is a non-starter.
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I'll just dream of SQL Injection attacks, that'll teach that robot to stay out of my head!
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Husband dreams about hot woman and wife sees. Husband embarrassed.
Wife dreams about hot man and husband sees. Husband embarrassed.
"Follow me" the wise man said, but he walked behind.
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The recording and replay of brainwave patterns reminds me a bit of the device from the above book.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.