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Inventor to Launch Pop Bottle Rocket into Space
DrButts writes "An inventor in British Columbia wants to be the first to launch a pop bottle rocket into space. 'This could be impossible, but the CEO of AntiGravity Research already holds the altitude record for boosting an elongated plastic pop bottle — propelled by a bicycle pump, water and a bit of soap — into the air. Firing the ubiquitous, two-litre plastic container usually consigned to the recycle bin into space might create a whole new definition for space junk, but the dream keeps Schellenberg going.'"
The sin qua non issue here is volume. TFA speaks of 'stretching' the bottles. If you are allowed to increase volume enough when stretching, then, yes, a coke bottle might make it into space. It requires stretching the bottle so that it's volume is several orders of magnitude larger than the original, then putting on lots of carbon fiber ( as per TFA ) on it.
Since TFA speaks of A coke bottle, I assume we aren't allowed multi-staging. But some of the effects of staging could be achieved - I think - with different fluids. At the bottom would be a layer of mercury with some depleted uranium dissolved in it. Next is the water layer. Maybe the third layer would be a hydrocarbon of some sort ( perhaps chosen for it's ability to dissolve gasses under high pressure, thus using precious volume for both compressed air and reaction mass.
Personally, I don't want to be anywhere near this contraption at liftoff, when it is spraying tons of toxic heavy metals all over. But I do want to see the video on youtube.
Ok, so I'm stretching it a bit, but this is my one chance to post this without being off topic. I'd link to the youtube version, but apparently, this is unsuitable viewing material for minors :-/ Youtube is soooo corporate these days.
Set your phasers on "funky"!
I believe that the X-Prize only required the craft to reach 100 km, which is kind of the accepted division line between space and not-space. It has something to do with the physics of spaceflight factoring more into the equations than the physics of aerodynamics above that altitude.
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There is no magic speed which must be obtained to get into space. The oft-cited 25,000 mph escape velocity is simply that vertical speed which, if obtained at ground level (and completely discounting atmospheric drag), will allow an object to coast (constantly decelerating at 1G) out of the gravity well of Earth - not simply to the altitudes commonly used for low-earth orbits. Any vertical speed whatsoever, if maintained long enough will get an object into space - and eventually out of the Earth's gravity well. A space elevator would not require massive initial velocities or acceleration - just a lot of climbing up the cable.
Entering orbit is another matter as the object will need to be traveling horizontally (relative to the surface of the Earth) at a speed in the 17,000 mph range
If you spent any amount of time making and modding paper airplanes when you were a kid, this is exactly that kind of fun.
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The Kármán line. I was just reading about it last week. The air is so thin at 100 km than an airplane would have to travel at a speed greater than orbital velocity in order to generate sufficient lift, and if it's traveling that fast, it doesn't need lift.
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In one of their recent episodes, Mythbusters researched using compressed air and water "bottle rockets". The highest flight to date of a compressed air and water rocket was about 500 meters, IIRC. And it was made from materials far stronger than a 2 liter bottle.
Just because Adam and Jamie can't do something doesn't mean it can't be done.The fundamental problem, as Mythbusters showed, is that a 2 liter bottle just can't hold enough pressure for the impulse necessary to put the bottle into orbit.
Nice dream, though.
As far as the "fuel" limits, is there a rule that says he can't launch it out of a canon before releasing the pressure? Or use multiple stages? I see he sells a two-stage bottle rocket...
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"Inventor to Attempt to Launch Pop Bottle Rocket into Space."
That makes more sense.
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Does it matter. Obviously he makes a living by being a salesman and a hay farmer. But the things he sells, are his own inventions, thus making him an inventor. I'm sure he makes some of them himself, which also makes him a craftsman. Creating bottle-rockets isn't exactly what I would call engineering, but if you want to call him an engineer, that's fine too, as he actually is educated as an EE. Anyway, what you should realize is that this guy is creating bottle-rockets and selling them because it's fun, not because he wants to put "inventor" on his CV.
Also, a "scientist" is someone who is working as a researcher in science. Most scientists have a Ph.D or equivalent academic degree. There's nothing wrong about putting "scientist" on your CV, although I believe most scientists put their actual titles there instead, e.g. professor, postdoctoral researcher, etc... Note that scientists doesn't necessarily need to work at a university, several companies hire scientists to do their research. One easy way to distinguish actual scientists from people who pretend to be scientists is to see if they have been recently published in a peer-reviewed academic journal.
You guys are totally missing the point here. Launching a ordinary grocery-store soda bottle into space is quite simple. All you have to do is take the bottle into orbit on the Space Shuttle, then have an astronaut launch it out of the cargo bay. You can then legitimately say that you have launched your bottle rocket into space. If you get your angles just right, it'll probably even stay in orbit for a good, long time.
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