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Kimchi in Space

rtknox00 writes "For astronauts spending months in space, the smallest touch of home can make a big difference. So when South Korea's first astronaut Ko San boards the International Space Station this April he'll be bringing along a hefty supply of kimchi, the national dish of his native country. While bringing a cherished food on a long journey might seem like a simple act, taking kimchi into space required millions of dollars in research and years of work." Science may never get Thorramatur in orbit.

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  1. Awesome! by jimbobborg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, it's nice that they are allowing this, however, I suspect that the smell will permeate everything in the station. Just saying.

    1. Re:Awesome! by antifoidulus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Better than the smell burritos make AFTER they have been eaten.... I would hate to be aboard the first ship that stows away something from burrito king....

    2. Re:Awesome! by Translation+Error · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just wait until someone wants to bring his beloved durian aboard.

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    3. Re:Awesome! by UnanimousCoward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, you know not of what you speak. Being an expert on vernacular-food-related flatulence:

      f(kimchi) >> f(buritto)

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    4. Re:Awesome! by g0bshiTe · · Score: 5, Funny

      You aparently never have eaten Kimchi before.
      I dated a half Korean girl, her mom used to make it all the time.
      The stuff smells like the ass of a dead dog, tastes great, but leaves you with Montezumas revenge 10x worse than Taco Hell ever thought about doing.

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    5. Re:Awesome! by AmaDaden · · Score: 4, Informative
      If that's true there is some terrible news at the end of the article...

      They say kimchi's short shelf life has made exporting it expensive because the need for refrigeration and rapid transport. That has added to the cost in importing countries, limiting sales.

      "During our research, we found a way to slow down the fermentation of kimchi for a month so that it can be shipped around the world at less cost," Mr. Lee said. "This will help globalize kimchi."
    6. Re:Awesome! by stuntpope · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I recently read an article about a famous western chef who spends a lot of time in Korea, who tries to popularize Korean cuisine and use its influences in his cooking.

      He was blunt about kimchi, stating that Koreans need to stop touting kimchi as their finest example of cuisine and westerners' first introduction to Korean food. Instead, they should focus on other Korean delicacies that are more likely to be agreeable to western palettes. If kimchi is the first Korean thing westerners eat, many will stop there and won't bother trying Korean food again. I know Koreans really love their kimchi, but it really is a very different taste for Americans. Nothing like a bowl of garlic and onion kimchi for breakfast, yum... Not!

    7. Re:Awesome! by d3ac0n · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well if they didn't do a good job, the next article will be about an incident on the international space station that caused all the Kimchi to get blown out the airlock.

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    8. Re:Awesome! by Hsoi · · Score: 4, Informative

      Indeed. Being half-Korean myself I know the joys of kimchi but I know it's also rather a large leap for most Western palettes. What I've found works well, when I introduce folks to Korean food, is to start with good old Korean BBQ, like bulgogi and kalbi. That usually goes over very well and opens up people to want to explore Korean food further. I of course do have kimchi on the table, since it is unique to Korean food. But I also put a little bowl of water on the table. Many people find it easier to try kimchi if they first dip it in the water to wash it off... it's not so stout on the first try. It's how my mother introduced me to kimchi, and how I introduced my wife and my kids (as well as many friends). Works well.

  2. mm.. by newbie56k · · Score: 5, Funny

    So thats where our tax money went... researching the fluid mechanics of kimchi in 0 g..

  3. Re:Coca-Cola by hakubi · · Score: 5, Informative

    They tried this awhile ago. You can't have carbonated beverages in a near-weightless environment because belching would result in vomiting up your food. As a result, the Coke had to be flat. Basically, it tasted really nasty and they've not tried it since that I know of.

  4. The Kimchi has gotten loose! by the_skywise · · Score: 4, Funny

    The spice! It's in my eyes! AUUUGHH! It burns!! The goggles... they do nothing!

  5. Well, I guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    in space no one can hear you fart.

    1. Re:Well, I guess... by catdevnull · · Score: 5, Funny

      If I had mod points, I'd promote this to +5 funny. I laughed so hard I farted myself.

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  6. Well, at least... by msauve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it's not durian.

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    1. Re:Well, at least... by raddan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Funny story about that. A coworker of mine married a Vietnamese woman, and seeing as how they both love durian, they decided to have a durian wedding cake. Now, since the wedding was held in the US, most of the guests were, shall we say, unfamiliar with the fruit. The highlight of the evening was a small child who took a bite of the cake, and who burst into tears crying, "I can't make the taste go away!". My first experience with durian (in bubble tea) caused my colleagues at the table to start to complain that the restaurant must have seated them next to a trash can-- until they realized the smell was coming from my drink. Ahh, there really is nothing like durian in the West.

  7. Fresh Kimchi? by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 4, Informative
    I see they were taking it already canned, but why not get it freshly fermented? The hard part about Kimchi is the fermentation step. Since you can't bury it in the ground as tradition requires, they've fortunately come up with a patented fermentation system:

    A Kimchi fermentation or cool storage apparatus comprises a chamber for either fermenting or coolly storing Kimchi, the chamber being formed of a hollow barrel with opened upper end; a cover for either entering or enclosing the chamber; a thermoelectric module for heating or cooling the chamber, the thermoelectric module being mounted on the outside of the bottom wall of the chamber; a power supplying section for supplying electric power with the thermoelectric module; a temperature sensing section for sensing the interior temperature of the chamber; and, a microprocessor for receiving the temperature signal from the temperature sensing section, for controlling the power supplying section to keep the chamber at a reference fermentation temperature for a predetermined time duration while fermenting Kimchi, and keep the chamber at a reference storage temperature while coolly storing Kimchi. I know people complain about the high costs of our space program, but the spin-off technologies make our lives so much better.
  8. Re:Millions of dollars? Years of research? by aproposofwhat · · Score: 4, Funny

    But you can't take a haggis into space - what if yon beastie escapes and runs round and round in wee circles, because everyone knows that the legs on one side are shorter than the other, what with them living in the hills...

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  9. Re:What country? by TheMeuge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Where do scientists earn $300k/year?

    In the U.S., you have to be a tenured department chair, with a Howard Hughes fellowship or the likes of it... in order to make $300k/year as a scientist. I figure about 0.001% of all scientists fit that bill.

    Graduate Students: $0 - $25k/year ($40-60k/year in the industry, as a technician)
    Post Docs: $25k-35k/year ($40-100k/year in the industry, as a junior scientist, i.e. technician)
    Fellows: $35-50k/year
    Assistant/Associate professors: $50-60k/year
    Full Professors w/o fellowships, etc: $60-150k/year

    The vast majority of all scientists in the U.S. have trouble making ends meet... not earning $300k/year... and I am talking about the BIOMEDICAL scientists, who are the HIGHEST PAID.

  10. What about his fellow travelers? by jht · · Score: 4, Funny

    Taking kimchi up in space - man, the smell of that stuff is brutal - and in space, you can't exactly crack the windows when he starts farting now, can you? Seriously, just because you _can_ take a smelly, nasty food up in space because people of your ethnicity eat it doesn't mean you _should_ take it up. There's the "bringing home with you so you don't get so lonely" deal but there's also the "having to live in a confined space with several other people that have nothing in common with you" deal. And bringing food that has a >0 chance of really bugging your fellow astronauts isn't the greatest idea. What's next, having an Icelandic astronaut bring some håkarl up, too?

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  11. Re:kimchi by crazyeddie740 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, and World War II was essentially a frank exchange of opinion.

  12. Re:kimchi by jafiwam · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, if you are looking for a "Western Food" analog that would get everybody to understand quickly.

    There's one HUGE difference though, kimchee is not typically cooked when it's made, whereas sauerkraut is cooked. Both are fermented I think it's the same micro-biology that does it though. And kimchee has at least garlic, usually hot spices, ginger and FISH SAUCE (fermented juice from preserved fish) in it. I use the purified form of the latter, along with usually one or two cans of drained and crushed anchovies for flavor.

    The cool part is that the vitamins in the kimchee stay intact, so you get the vitamin C that was in there along with what is created during fermentation. So if you are in an agrarian society and need a supply of vitamins for the winter, kimchee works well. If you have gut problems it will overwhelm whatever bugs are ailing you, and it gets a slow moving gut running like a well-oiled shotgun if you need that.

    For the uninitiated, kimchee is rather offensive stuff. But properly made home-made kimchee is a comfort food that does wonders. I go from cranky and anxious to happy and relaxed with a few mouth fulls of the stuff. I need to make another batch, am on my last jar come to think of it.

  13. Food. What you are used to eating by sakdoctor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In my own experience, if you live in a place long enough you adapt to the food such that you feel just as weird going "back in the other direction". I remember walking around a western supermarket for the first time in years and thinking "Ok, what the hell am I supposed to eat here".

    Time to adapt for me personally; 2-3 years, and 3 years tops. After that, no craving for food that you were previously used to eating. You get totally localized.

    I guess my point is, instead of packaging food that is obviously unsuitable for the purpose (because it fucking stinks for one), why not train to live on food that is especially suitable for space flight.

  14. Re:"Prepare to experience chaos" by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Funny

    At this point I'm forced to ask where you got your nickname...

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