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EU Approves Google-DoubleClick Merger

A number of readers sent word that EU regulators have cleared the Google-DoubleClick deal. "The commission said Google and DoubleClick 'were not exerting major competitive constraints on each other's activities and could, therefore, not be considered as competitors,' and even if DoubleClick could become an effective competitor in online intermediation services, 'it is likely that other competitors would continue to exert sufficient competitive pressure after the merger.'"

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  1. Re:Did I miss something? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I wonder how much that trick cost Google?

    Apparently politicians over there are for sale as well. How could this NOT be anti-competitive? Probably quite a bit with the recent decline in the value of the dollar. I'm pretty sure that European politicians are only bribeable in Euros.
  2. Re:Globalization by geminidomino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Considering that Google is based in the USA, is there any reason why they would even need the EU's approval for something like this? Point about the article being nonexistent notwithstanding, the answer is that they don't technically *need* the EU's approval, except that they would probably like to actually do business IN the EU
  3. Re:Did I miss something? by scubamage · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing. Google's primary business is still being a search engine. Doubleclick is an advertising framework and analytics (hence google wanting to acquire it). Search engine != advertising framework. Therefore they don't compete. Funny how things work just like they're supposed to sometimes.

  4. Re:Globalization by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 2, Informative

    It exists from the firehose submission. Pilot error, it seems.

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  5. Nice link by _xeno_ · · Score: 4, Informative

    So the article is at ... uh, nowhere. The source reveals the link to be: <a>

    Great.

    Thankfully we have the Firehose submission, which contains the actual link.

    So I guess the theory behind subscriptions is that subscribers are paying to catch mistakes like that? :P

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  6. Re:Did I miss something? by scubamage · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Mmmm, your tears sustain me. Cry more, please, cry more. So sweet and salty. You also miss the fact that while google may make its revenue off of ads, it still is not considered an advertising framework and analytics package. Google analytics is nothing compared to doubleclick, which is their primary reason for the acquisition. As mentioned elsewhere in this story's discussion, the analytics are whats important here. Every website makes money off of advertising, google does it with searching. Doubleclick, however, makes their money off of the analytics it offers along with an advertising framework. They are two different things. If you want to say they're the same thing, you may want to ditch the sour grapes and get your head checked.

  7. ISR by SeaFox · · Score: 3, Funny

    Welcome our new advertising overlords! Or something like that.

    In capitalist Europe, Google-Doubleclick approves EU!
  8. Re:Globalization by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But, Google never has to step physically into Europe for anything. It is just data across some tubes. Google has local offices across the world.
    Or do you really think they coordinate advertising in England from California?

    If the EU Commission had said no, could they really stop the merger? European companies would be told, "Don't buy from Google-Click or else"? As if all internet servers for European companies are even hosted in Europe? If [company] went ahead with a non-EU regulator approved merger, I imagine the regulators would start fining [company] for whatever reason they turned down the merger.
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  9. AdSense Terms now requires privacy policy by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I publish AdSense on one of my websites. One of the things I've always valuable about it over competing ad programs is that it doesn't cookie my visitors for tracking purposes.

    But the new Terms and Conditions, to which all publishers must agree to remain in the program, now requires:

    You must have and abide by an appropriate privacy policy that clearly discloses that third parties may be placing and reading cookies on your users' browser, or using web beacons to collect information, in the course of ads being served on your website. Your privacy policy should also include information about user options for cookie management.

    That just plain sucks.

    (A web beacon is also known as a web page; it's a small, invisible graphic placed in the page for tracking purposes.)

    However, I'm hoping that a silver lining might be that, if advertising is made more effective by tracking, us publishers might get paid more. But I'm not counting on it.

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    1. Re:AdSense Terms now requires privacy policy by scubamage · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In theory it can only help you as an advertiser. By using the beacon, google's robotic voodoo machine can figure out what kinds of stuff a visitor is most likely to click on when he or she visits your site, thus increasing the liklihood of a successful click and maybe even some purchases. The only people who really lose are privacy purists who are terrified that cookies = virii (a common misconception). The fundamental flaw with that logic is of course that to google and other advertisers, you are a potential wallet. It is in their best interest to keep you safe and browsing. Sadly, google hasn't had the best history in not caving to government demands... though nothing quite so bad as the yahoo case where they got a bunch of people thrown into chinese prisons.

    2. Re:AdSense Terms now requires privacy policy by scubamage · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Forgot to mention, while tracking is a valid concern for end users who are worried about anonymity, again, this really will be a boon to anyone who uses adsense.

  10. Re:Globalization by nbert · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In addition (to what TubeSteak already said) google is way too big and very present on the European market. To give a counter-example: Facebook used to be quite safe from EU regulations, because even though they had many registered users in the EU they were operating solely from the US. And since their service is "for free" there was no money trail to go for. However, this changed recently: They now have venues in the UK and Germany (and Spain IIRC).

    A company has to obey the laws in the countries they do business in. Even if the laws are stupid (China, anyone?), but that's a different story...

  11. Re:Did I miss something? by Fozzyuw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google doesn't make money off search, they make money off ads. They make pretty much ALL their money off ads.

    Your comment is overrated. Popular World of Warcraft database sites Thottbot.com and Wowhead.com make their money of ads. I imagine Slashdot makes a good deal of money off ads as well. So, does that mean they're competing with Google?

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  12. Re:Globalization by oliderid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Google is currently building a big Data Center here in Belgium($340 million).

    for more info
    http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2007/Apr/27/google_data_center_project_in_belgium.html

    And it looks like it is just the beginning of their European investment.

  13. Re:Globalization by xaxa · · Score: 3, Informative

    Google already has a strong European presence, they have engineering offices in Dublin, London, Zürich, Trondheim, and loads more places. Data centres aren't interesting -- only a few good jobs come out of them.

  14. Re:time to anonymize, folks by AlmostEarthling · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Day 1: I go to a pub and order a bitter. Bartender serves me, I'm happy.
    Day 2: I go to the same pub and order a bitter. Bartender serves me, I'm happy.
    Day 3: I go to the same pub and order a bitter. Bartender serves me, I'm happy.
    Day 4: I go to the very same pub. Bartender serves me a bitter, just what I was about to order, I'm happy.

    Is it that bad? As long as you're a customer, it hasn't always to be a drawback when you're somehow "tracked" and your host makes you offers that suit your taste.

    F.

  15. Google's announcement to publishers by davros-too · · Score: 2, Informative


    http://www.google.com/dclk/messages

    Not that it says much, but from the horse's mouth so to speak.

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  16. Re:Government too powerful by WaZiX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the ability to charge whatever you want for your services with the only price control being supply and demand There are natural flaws in the market such as asymmetric information, moral hazard, adverse selection, collusion, monopolies, etc... The ridiculous stance that is getting more and more popular these days (Ron Paul, etc... ) to adhere to the principles of the capitalism and the free market without acknowledging its fundamental flaws is astonishing to me.

    The economics and more specifically the political economics are more and more being shifted from science to philosophy if not ideology; as sound as it is to recognize the fact that free markets are the optimum way to prosperity and technological progress, uncontrolled markets would rarely if ever tend towards an optimum equilibrium for the society.
  17. Re:Globalization by nevali · · Score: 2, Informative

    Such a huge amount of uninformed claptrap in such a short post.

    It's really simple: if companies don't want to be bound by EU laws and regulators, don't do business here. Seriously, you're all more than welcome to boycott the EU if you think that's a preferable option. Mind you, nobody listens when people complain about US companies doing business in China--which has, in real terms, far more black marks against it than the EU--so it's unlikely that US companies will boycott a massively lucrative market any time soon.

    Plenty of European companies have fallen afoul of the regulators too, you know, and they somehow manage to do just fine, only generally they stop screwing the consumers (or, more directly, the rest of their respective industries) once they've had their knuckles rapped. Take Siemens for example, who got fined to hell and back and have enacted a new era of corporate governance. Or E.on, who announced a complete U-turn on their previous plans to hold on to their energy-generation monopolies when they realised the regulator might actually be serious.

    Of course, it's not like the EU is the only place where regulators and anti-competition laws do their thing. The US used to, before Bush had his way; nowadays the SEC seems to be pretty impotent, the FCC is a laughing stock, the FTC never does anything besides the occasional muttering about spyware, and the DoJ just wants it all to go away so it can sit in the corner and rock slowly in the hope that it'll all get better on its own.