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China Continues to Shut Down Video Sites

I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "It's not just YouTube that's blocked in China. After the unrest in Tibet, at least 25 video sharing sites have been shut down and others have been penalized. While the Chinese government is not admitting that violence in Tibet had anything to do with it, they do have a sudden interest in strictly enforcing licensing restrictions that require video sharing websites to register with the government. Among other things, Chinese video sharing sites must promise not to show videos that inspire fear, contain pornography, or endanger national security."

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  1. National Security? by calebt3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I haven't seen many Youtube videos that endanger the US's national security...

    1. Re:National Security? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is rich - a bunch of politically correct Slashdotters complaining about China censoring opposing points of view... When all along, anybody who dares to come on here and try to make simple truths known about how every white country on Earth is being invaded by non-whites, and how our governments are run by Jews who are clearly trying to destroy any sense of homogeneity we ever had, is met with the pathetic cries of "Racist" "Racist" "Racist"...

  2. universal translator: active by v1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    inspire fear, contain pornography, or endanger national security

    Lets see. inspire fear ... that'd be inspire fear in the government leaders that the people might SEE what they're really doing

    or, contain pornography ... as in, see the government naked and have some of their dirty secrets exposed for all to see

    and finally, endanger national security would be endanger their position of power by inciting unrest

    There, that's better.

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  3. What is wrong with the IOC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Haven't they learned from the 1936 and 1980 Olympics? A totalitarian government might promise the IOC that they will be more open and peaceful if they are allowed to host the Olympic Games, but they will not honor it. Perhaps this will be the first Olympic Games where the government hosting the games is massacring people while the athletes compete.

    Personally, I think it is time that the Olympics are removed from the control of the IOC. The games in China should also be canceled.

    1. Re:What is wrong with the IOC by gzipped_tar · · Score: 5, Informative

      I am from Beijing and I really wish the game could be canceled.

      In Soviet China, the games play you. Yes it's true. I live in my college (a public one, funded by the govn't) where more than 80% of the students are from other places outside Beijing, me included. We will be forced to leave our campus before the Olympic games open, because the college's gym shall be used by the athelets as a place of training (some say they are the USA swimming team). The college has decided so, but offers no single bit of solution for our accomodation during that period. I guess most of us may have to go home --- for quite a few of us this means a long journey across the country, at a considerable cost. For those who has a job here this would mean further loss. I feel I'm being treated as an undesirable, troublesome one who is best kept clear from the city in which I have been living for three years. We are not free to travel or stay as we wish within our own country, or even within our own city.

      Thanks to the Olympic games China is drawing increasingly more attentions of the world. I hope that, as a result of the pressure from both within and outside, the govn't would take some measures for us. This is hardly likely, though.

      Now something on topic. Removing the Olympics from the IOC? Not likely. Canceling the games? The IOC members are very experienced in politics, and politics has nothing to do with human rights. They can't be ignorant to the massacre taking place in China, but that has nothing to do with their business. They have a perfect alibis: the IOC is not an organization for settling political affairs. We do our own business.

      Recently, the Olympic firetorch is going on its tour around the world, including Lhasa, Tibet. I can hardly imagine this.

      And a tip for some of you who may want to travel to China for watching the Games: you have to be prepared for the Internet experience in China which is far from yours in your home. Want to know more about a game? There's no Wikipedia. Want home news? A lot of media websites banned. Want watch video from YouTube? No way. Want to read your emails? If you've done many "undesirable " searches on Google you may have trouble accessing your gmail account, as some of my friends have noted. Slashdot? I can only hope the best. It seems that they havnt been keeping an eye on slashdot now. I guess most of the decision makers have no idea of what Slashdot is like...

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    2. Re:What is wrong with the IOC by Idiomatick · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Massacres??? I tend to keep up with the news. I hope you have some proof to back up this very strong news. I think i'll assume you are referring to tibet.

      Its funny when you see human rights violations in the US people go thats shameful, we are better than this. Alot of people blaming corporations. Or saying theres nothing that can be done. When there are rights abuses in china, there is no question, the country is the embodiment of the devil. You are so harsh and judging, final in your judgment.

      And the suggestions flow forth, cancel the games! Oh because that would help, that way china wont be under the scrutiny of millions of visitors and they don't have to worry about having to bend to the will of all the countries that visit. They WANT to make a good impression otherwise they wouldnt be hosting the games. So let them try, its foolish to do otherwise.

      Then lets sanction them! Oh wait, that will hurt the whole world as much or more than China. And the harm it will do in China, make the poor poorer. Make technology like internet/phones/cameras beyond the reach of most people. Because we wouldn't want the average person to have access to these things, take it away as punishment. To what end? Force an unarmed rebellion? The idea is laughable, you'll just be aiding in the starvation of 100s of thousands of civilians. But sanctions have worked so well in N.Korea, Iran, Cuba, Palestine... Oh yeah, it hasnt, its just given the countries reason to hate. Its killed civilians and lowered the std of life for millions of people. The reasons sanctions are in place isnt a noble one, its a war measure used to starve enemies to death. A veritable siege on whole countries.

      Don't get me started on Tibet. The country has basically been under Chinese rule until 1904 where the brits invaded. Tibet signed a treaty with the brits seperate from China. Then China retook the area in 1950. The country has been under chinese control currently LONGER than it had ever been apart from China. The dalai lama doesn't even want independence. But people have taken the publicity of the olympic games to try and incite riots and insurrection. I can't imagine the average person in tibet even wants this anymore. Those riots are what have caused the recent deaths in China. Not the government going in execution style. I'm not saying China doesn't have a big part in it. But the rioters are looting and burning down homes, lighting cars on fire. OBVIOUSLY this is something the police should try to quell even if they are doing a messy job of it. The rioters are trying to make martyrs of themselves. Infact they are doing the exact same things people in palestine do, but when it happens there its terrorism.

      This blatant racism and moral superiority disgusts me. Keep an open mind and pretend it was the states shooting terrorists. I'm not saying human rights in china are as good as in the US at all. I'm not saying they don't need to be changed. But china isn't the devil nor is communism. You aren't making things better by viewing things this way.

    3. Re:What is wrong with the IOC by kvezach · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'll tell you what's wrong with the IOC: All the committee-members in their rooms, dancing and singing...

      Money, money, money
      always sunny
      in the rich man's world...

    4. Re:What is wrong with the IOC by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Don't get me started on Tibet. The country has basically been under Chinese rule until 1904 where the brits invaded. Tibet signed a treaty with the brits seperate from China. Then China retook the area in 1950. The country has been under chinese control currently LONGER than it had ever been apart from China.

      Don't get ME started on what a load of bullshit that is.

      China claimed sovereignty of Tibet, as it did for many neighbouring countries, such as Vietnam and Korea at various times. In practice, these countries may have paid tribute to Beijing, but Beijing never administered these regions. Tibet was an independent kingdom for most of the last two or three thousand years. A thousand years ago it actually controlled a large part of what is now China.

      The dalai lama doesn't even want independence.

      Of course he does. But he knows China would destroy Tibet rather than grant it. He's no fool. Asking for that would just give China another stick to beat him with.

      China is wiping out Tibetan culture at a fast pace, the only leverage the Tibetans have is international pressure, and in the Olympic year China cannot simply ignore it as it would do normally. They have little hope of success, but this is their last chance before their country is swamped by Chinese immigration and they become fringe slum dwellers in their own land.

    5. Re:What is wrong with the IOC by gzipped_tar · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm sorry, but Olympic Games are going to be held in August, and I suppose that is during the summer holiday in almost all of the universities in China, I suppose? Do you stay in school during holidays? Hard-working..

      Here in my college, many of the students stay at the campus even if it's the summer holiday. Some of them just can't afford the ticket home. We use to have choices, and now they say 'Go home. This place is not for you.' Not everyone can happily accept this.

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  4. GGW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm sure that somewhere there's a Girls Gone Wild video that does all three...

  5. Re:Fuck china by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wouldn't carpetbombing China with dirty magazines be more ironic? Fear, pornography, and national endangerment all in one go!

  6. long live Tor by mwilliamson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Run a tor node! Remove the potential for censure of information by oppressive regimes like China, Cuba and _[insert favorite oppressive country here]_ http://tor.eff.org/

    1. Re:long live Tor by gzipped_tar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In Beijing, many of the TOR nodes are operated by the govn't.

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    2. Re:long live Tor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      That will land you in prison in China. You obviously don't understand the level of internet monitoring in China. This isn't the RIAA cracking down on Napster. This represents lives in the balance. Your ignorant comment can get people executed. Please STFU on subjects you know little to nothing about

      Jin

  7. It should also be noted... by rindeee · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I posted the following info on a previous thread a few days ago, but it was long enough after the story had been posted that it got buried. Anyway, because I believe that it's significant, I will again point out that Google would seem to be coalescing to the wishes of governments such as China. Google's automated the process of blocking particular videos in particular countries via new country blocking XML tags ([media :restriction type="country" relationship="deny">CN]") that they've added in YouTube/Google Video. If you're not familiar with Google's latest (Do no evil???) addition to YouTube, see the write-up that YouTomb did on the matter. Anyway, I can think of no other reason that Google would add in such capability, but I've admittedly not devoted much time to pondering it.

    1. Re:It should also be noted... by hayagriva · · Score: 5, Interesting

      True, but not new. I've been in China since 2004. Every time I've clicked on a Google Video link, it hasn't been blocked by China, but it's never worked. They're very nice about it, though: "Thanks for your interest in Google Video. Currently, the playback feature of Google Video isn't available in your country. We hope to make this feature available more widely in the future, and we really appreciate your patience." Do no evil, or, if you have to, be polite about it?

  8. Everyone Says "Fuck China" by Skeetskeetskeet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But the majority of you will go to Wal-Mart at some point in the next 3 days and buy goods made from China. So who's winning the war here?

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  9. Proof that rule by a few elite results in stupidty by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    China is fighting unarmed(or lightly armed) monks in clear view of the world. While they can censor their own media, everyone else sees China as a bully. The Dali-Lama is actually being given an amplified voice. I sincerely do not believe that China wants the person they're trying to repress be given a bigger soap box, but that is what is happening in reality.

  10. Re:China fatigue... by Sepiraph · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is some truth to that, as much as we like to think what a particular country's government should be, ultimately it is up to its people to decide their own fate. While the (perhaps ignorant) individual may not consciously think of how their country should be governed, the mass which makes up the society as a whole does ultimately, whether consciously or not, ended up dictating the type of government that it deems unacceptable (at least in the sense that they would rather live with the government than revoke against it).

    You see, the U.S. people got their freedom as their British ancestors who immigrated to North America decided to revoke against its government for paying too much tax (they had the geographical advantage of having an ocean divde), and the French followed similar course of action (their people were desperate). Their people, as a whole, paid its due for the price of freedom and fought through it. However, it should be noted that each culture and nation has its own unique situation. In the case of China, ultimately it'd be up to its citizens to decide.

  11. Re:Violations of Human Rights by olden · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe it's utopian to imagine that the Chinese government cares about its international reputation, but just in case they do (say because of the upcoming Olympics), we might be able to make a tiny bit of difference by expressing our support for the Dalaï Lama and his call for dialog, eg. here: http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/

  12. Hero by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Most nations believe their own propaganda, thinking that "Only our enemies use propaganda on their people". --Until, that is, things starts to get really bad politically. The U.S., in spite of everything, is waking up. It's to the point now that only the slowest of the slow learners don't sigh in disgust when Fox News is mentioned, (though many have yet to recognize just how wide-spread the programming is at this point, but that awareness is coming, albeit slowly).

    That being said, China is fskced. I've met some native Chinese who came here to go to school, and the propaganda they carry with them is unreal. "One China" anybody? That freaky film, "Hero" canonizing a butcher pretty much sums that one up. And I've met people who have lived here for over a decade who still hunch up and look frightened when you ask them what they think of the Chinese government. Like abuse victims. I guess the truncheons haven't fully come out yet in the U.S., and real information is still being controlled through ridicule rather than simply being locked down.

    I've heard the U.S. described as the largest social experiment on the planet; the objective being to see if it is possible to fully control people without the use of force. Kind of like a beef farmer letting their cattle think they're living happy, free lives when in fact almost every thought and decision is dictated.


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  13. Other reasons : avoiding students by DrYak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We will be forced to leave our campus before the Olympic games open, because the college's gym shall be used by the athelets as a place of training (some say they are the USA swimming team).


    I think another reason that is also pleasing the government a lot is that this will keep all these students away from the camera of international journalist.
    You know, with all these habits that we students worldwide have of protesting and organising processions and strikes, it's good side effect that the campus will be closed, just in case if some Chinese students decided to overcome their fears and copy us trying some of the silly stuff that the foreign colleagues are doing.
    It would be specially embarrassing since they won't be able to handle potential students protest the usual way (it's not very encouraged to send tank against students in front of cameras).

    Except that if the government had said "Students aren't allowed to express publicly their political opinion" the whole western world would be complaining about attacks to their freedom of speech. Whereas "China announce it will happily lend its Colleges' gyms so athlete can win, saddly this means that the duration of the students summer break will have to be extended" suddenly sounds a lot more benevolent. The government hit two birds with single stone : They both do us a favor giving a place to our athlete and managed do discretely shut the Chinese students up.
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  14. Dalai Lama wants win-win situation by microbox · · Score: 4, Informative

    Um, ah, are you calling the Dalai Lama a lier then? Be cause he says it himself *repeatedly*.

    Despite what the Chinese have done to *his* country: the rape, murder, and willful and blatant destruction of the institutions most precious to Tibetan people, the Dalai Lama does not see independence from China as possible because he recognizes a hard case when he sees it.

    The Chinese constitution guarantees some sort of autonomy, and within autonomy there is no reason why the Tibetan people can not move forward and have some sort of normal existence. The Dalai Lama sees that as a win-win situation. Tibetans get to live unoppressed, and the Han Chinese can still say to themselves proudly "Look, Tibet is ours!".

    So the Dalai Lama is more concerned with the livelihood of his people than reptilian territoriality. China has placed such a pathetically small value on human life, that I'm sure they struggle with that concept. Sad really.

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