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The Wrath of the Apple Tribe

Narrative Fallacy writes "If you've ever written about Apple products with even a hint of negativity, you'll appreciate Salon's excerpt from Farhad Manjoo's True Enough, about why the Apple tribe is so rabid. 'There are many tribes in the tech world: TiVo lovers, Blackberry addicts, Palm Treo fanatics, and people who exhibit unhealthy affection for their Roomba robotic vacuum cleaners,' writes Manjoo. 'But there is no bigger tribe, and none more zealous, than fans of Apple, who are infamous for their sensitivity to slams, real or imagined, against the beloved company.' Wall Street Journal columnist Walt Mossberg has even coined a name for the phenomenon — the 'Doctrine of Insufficient Adulation.' 'If I see the world as all black and you see the world as all white and some person comes along and says it's partially black and partially white, we both are going to be unhappy,' says psychologist Lee Ross at Stanford University. 'You think there are more facts and better facts on your side than on the other side. The very act of giving them equal weight seems like bias. Like inappropriate evenhandedness.'"

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  1. I remember the days before the Internet by CrazyJim1 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I used to think DOS PCs were so much better than Macs because DOS PCs played better games. There were Apple vs DOS PC back in the day, and I'd argue for the DOS PCs. I don't think there are as many Microsoft fanboys as there used to be back in the day. Apple fanboys has all the right to boast. After all, Apple invented the personal computer, GUI filesystem. Apple was down for the count, and now it is doing well again.

  2. The most rabid group..... by edwardpickman · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    has to be Microsoft fans attacking Mac. Does anyone remember all the talk of Leopard being a knock off of Vista and how much better Vista was? Also Mac security is constantly bashed in spite of the rarity of in the wild attacks. Mac fans seem comfortable and happy with their OS and hardware overall where as Microsoft fans seem to always be attacking Mac or defending Microsoft. I use both I just find Mac has far fewer hassles. It's more stable and secure, the proof is in the using. I buy a computer to use software not tinker with the OS.

  3. Re:I blame it on Apple... by lena_10326 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Seriously, market a product as "stylish", "hip" and "different", and you'll raise a troupe of people to whom presenting themselves as different is pretty much their only end.
    ...because we all desire at birth to blend in, be unnoticed, and indulge in the colorless, emotionless, and dreariness of the human experience. What a miserable existence--IMO. Life is better in color.

    I personally find it one of the most disgusting facets of consumerist capitalism.
    And do you find upgrading your desktop every time a new fang dangled CPU comes out to be a disgusting facet of consumerist capitalism? How about your home? Your car? Your wardrobe? Are you going to say everything you own and wear is square, plain, and vanilla?

    Maybe being different scares you.

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  4. Re:Experience it first hand by amirulbahr · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Hell, I just kissed away some karam Funny, that actually is an Arabic word and I get the feeling you never had any of it to begin with.
  5. Re:It's a religion by Charcharodon · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    iTunes is a garbage program, why would you want something so invasive installed on your machine? Its just like Realplayer only it crashes more often.

  6. Re:I blame it on Apple... by PietjeJantje · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Seriously, market a product as "stylish", "hip" and "different", and you'll raise a troupe of people to whom presenting themselves as different is pretty much their only end. I personally find it one of the most disgusting facets of consumerist capitalism. Steve Jobs has clearly studied and successfully adopted the principles of mass commercial psycho analysis: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8953172273825999151

    To all the Apple fans: sorry, you are muppets, and Jobs is the muppet master. Before you mod me down as troll, watch the video.
  7. Re:I blame it on Apple... by dangitman · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    She kept dragging things off the laptop screen onto the projector. This had her totally fucking confused for 5 minutes. Several times I tried to explain what was going on, but she would cut me off and say "See--it's disappearing. Why is it on the projector and not on my laptop. It's broken."

    Interesting. I see the exact same thing all the time from coworkers who use Windows. The Mac users actually seem to understand monitor-spanning versus mirroring. The fact that there are incompetent people on different platforms doesn't really prove anything.

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  8. Re:Experience it first hand by tomhudson · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I sense a comparison between Apple tribe members and Nazis coming soon

    That would imply that the article is correct about Apple fans being the worst. Apple at least has some products that you can get excited about. Microsoft fans are MUCH worse - only a copraphiliac would swallow that shit. And for the Godwin bonus - Microsoft really does see itself as the 4th Reich - "Microsoft Uber Alles" and all that rot.

  9. Re:Experience it first hand by jellomizer · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I have found Linux zealism far worse then apple fanboyism. Apple fan boys are often the most criticle of new things come out. OS 9, Power PC holdouts, even the mighty mouse had huge debates on was it good or bad or good enough. They complain about price and all the other stuff. Linux fanboys seem like they turn a blind eye to any "non technical" problem. Like Ubentu wouldn't install under paralles, it was a bug in the installer code. But except for admiting it was a bug they pointed me to a workaround site that still didn't work 100%. that is just one example but in that case most apple fanboys will go either that is a bug you you can't normally run OS X under virtulization

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  10. Re:I dunno.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    See, Linux Nazis are worse! They don't even recognize they are Nazis, they like to come with this BS talk about "freedom and choice". Sounds to me like our government saying that they have to take our freedoms away, so they can defend our freedoms. I think the only difference between Linux Nazis and Apfel Nazis is that the former are less financially endowed so they have to resort to free software that works on crap hardware.
    Our World will only be a free place, when the last Linux user dies strangled on the bowels of the last Mac user...

  11. Re:fanaticism = fanaticism regardless by interstellar_donkey · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    You're right, of course.

    I've always been of the opinion (oh, and how the negative mod points will fly here!) that Macs are a girl computer. Or at the very least, the computer favored by homosexual men. Not that there is anything wrong with girls or homosexuals, I just find it curious that these two segments of the population seem to be predisposed to use and sing the praises of Apple products.

    My wife seems to love her G5 desktop, and won't listen to any negative criticism about it, despite the fact that it won't do 90% of the things its PC counterpart sitting next to it on her desk ("I only have the PC because I need it for work. I *heart* my Mac!!"). She's obsessed with her iPod (which is filled with episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which, incidentally, is filled with Apple products). She hopes and prays I'll get her an iPhone or, better yet, an Airbook for her birthday (hint: I'm not going to waste the money).

    I tried using an iPod nano for a while. I found it unusable. Let it sit for a few weeks and the battery and of of its contents die on you. Oddly enough, I can leave my digital camera off for months and the contents of its SD card will still be intact. I just don't see the point in spending all that money for sexy technology that isn't very accommodating. The friends I have with iPhones seem to gloss over the fact that the battery life sucks ("Can I see it?" "Sure. But don't play anything . . . the battery is almost dead")

    Apple makes some neat products, for sure. But being realistic they aren't that great in the grand scheme of things. Yet if one were to point this out it's as if you were committing the worst kind of blasphemy in the minds of the Apple faithful.

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