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Microsoft Giving SMB2 Talks At SambaXP

Posted by kdawson on from the pinch-me dept.

Jeremy Allison - Sam writes "I'm not much for writing blog entries, but I thought Slashdot readers might like to know that Microsoft architects and testers are attending SambaXP and have been giving some wonderful talks on how the protocol document testing works, and on the design of SMB2 in order to work well on WAN links. Really interesting technical stuff. Pinch me, I'm back in 1994 and things are really fun again :-)."

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  1. Isn't that game a little old? by The+Faywood+Assassin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why is Microsoft giving talks about Super Mario Bros. 2? That game is YEARS old. I don't think anyone even plays it anymore.

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    1. Re:Isn't that game a little old? by Lord+Pillage · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't you mean Doki Doki Panic?

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  2. SMB2 talk by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So, for those of who can't attend, will there be some sort of webcast or what? In particular, I'm interested in what 'SMB2' will do that (RFC-compliant) NFSv4 won't.

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    1. Re:SMB2 talk by erroneus · · Score: 2, Funny

      Quick answer: Work with Windows.

      Are there any good NFS clients for Windows? Any that are free? If there were, I'd seriously consider using NFS for much of my file serving needs.

    2. Re:SMB2 talk by zappepcs · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, MS gets to look like they are playing nice nice with F/OSS by supporting SMB, but in the long run it means they don't have to develop anything to keep working along side *nix systems in the data center.

      This is a win/win for MS, if I were them I'd do it too.

      Note: if NFS would support Windows networking, I'd use it too. Till then, I'm happy with SMB and use it at home and work.

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    3. Re:SMB2 talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Are there any good NFS clients for Windows? Any that are free? Yes, there's Microsoft's own from their Services for Unix download or the Vista/2008 Subsystem for Unix applications.

    4. Re:SMB2 talk by Jeremy+Allison+-+Sam · · Score: 5, Informative

      The slides will be posted at the conference website, but they're not up yet. Not sure yet about audio/video.

      Jeremy.

    5. Re:SMB2 talk by EvilRyry · · Score: 4, Informative

      That only supports the crusty, insecure NFSv3. NFSv4 was released in 2000 (aka 8 freakin years ago) and has far better security and performance than v3. Microsoft has announced that they will not be updating SFU and will discontinue downloads in 2009.

      So the correct answer would be "no", Microsoft hates NFS because they don't control it.

    6. Re:SMB2 talk by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Quick answer: Work with Windows.


      Actually NFSv4 supports Windows file-sharing semantics rather better than previous versions of NFS.

      I currently see Samba as more of a complement to NFSv4 to support Windows clients easily, but, OTOH, it is actually becoming increasingly possible to use only Samba for file sharing in a heterogenous UNIX/Windows environment, rather than a mix of Samba and NFS. If SMB2 ends up being better than NFSv4 in security and reliability aspects, then it may replace NFS as the defacto filesharing for *nix systems in the future.
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    7. Re:SMB2 talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Almost. The separate download package that is Services for Unix is being discontinued. It is instead being shipped as a part of the OS and is available in both Vista and Windows Server 2008 without an additional download. As a result there is no need to ship a separate downloadable version going forward.

  3. ENOUGH WITH THE SUPER MARIO BROS JOKES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's three threads on that already. You can reply to those if you must. We don't need any more.

  4. Re:1994? by Jeremy+Allison+-+Sam · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They've already released the protocol info publicly. The catch isn't the protocol documentation, it's the patent license they claim is needed to implement the protocol It's moving the control point from trade secrets to patents. But I'm still really happy with the release of the info to the public. The docs aren't perfect yet, but they're going to be improved. It's a very positive step.

    Jeremy.

  5. Re:I guess you have to be involved for it to be fu by Jeremy+Allison+-+Sam · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, that's the point really. It's *fun* :-). And also everyone is being very nice :-).

    Jeremy.