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Walter Bender Resigns From OLPC

westlake writes "Walter Bender, the former executive director of MIT's Media Lab, and, in many ways, the tireless workhorse and public face of OLPC, has resigned from OLPC after being reorganized and sidetracked into insignificance. The rumor mill would have it that 'constructionism as children [learn] learning' is being replaced by a much less romantic view of the XO's place in the classroom and XO's tech in the marketplace."

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  1. oblig by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did his final words as he left have anything to do with biting his shiny metal ass?

    1. Re:oblig by thhamm · · Score: 5, Funny

      with biting his shiny metal ass?

      nah, but: 'i'll make my own OLPC ... with blackjack ... and hookers.'

    2. Re:oblig by cephah · · Score: 3, Funny

      nah, but: 'i'll make my own OLPC ... with blackjack ... and hookers.' In fact forget the OLPC, and the blackjack.
    3. Re:oblig by everphilski · · Score: 4, Funny

      antiquing?

  2. No, nor XP. by gnutoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Walter Bender has finally spoken on his resignation from One Laptop Per Child. In an email to me, he says he doesn't know about any plans for Windows XP on the XO laptop, so my fears of a Microsoft take-over of OLPC may be unfounded.

    Summary and original speculation were complete BS.

    To keep in the spirit of the thread, XP smells worse than your shiny metal ass.

    1. Re:No, nor XP. by willyhill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This would merit the moderation if not for the fact that this account is one of your seven sockpuppets. You even created one so you could insult me.

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    2. Re:No, nor XP. by dedazo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      so really, who cares?

      If you were engaged in a discussion with a person and suddenly six others showed up to shill and agree with the original one, how would you like that? More importantly, he knows very well what that kind of activity looks like to moderators - seven people carrying on a "conversation" with each other in opposition to you is usually a recipe for being modded down (and get him karma in the process).

      I don't know about you, but I have a single Slashdot account and I'd like to think I'm responsible for my own opinion being modded up or down. twitter went to karma hell because the Slashdot community got tired of his bullshit. He can't have that, so instead he blames it on a vast conspiracy by Microsoft and creates seven different accounts, as opposed to actually correcting the problems that got him in the hole to begin with.

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  3. Instead OLPC should deepen its approch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Teach children how to learn to learn learning.

    1. Re:Instead OLPC should deepen its approch by sm62704 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But first you have to learn the teachers how to teach to teach teaching.

      My brain hurts.

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  4. Why am I getting a strange feeling... by tgatliff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That now that OLPC is no longer a threat that all of the other vendors of small low cost laptops will simply stop offering them... Just a thought... :)

    1. Re:Why am I getting a strange feeling... by couchslug · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That now that OLPC is no longer a threat that all of the other vendors of small low cost laptops will simply stop offering them... Just a thought... :) Asus is doing very well with its flagship offering.
      The people who don't get it right may stop offering small lappies, but at last there is a small, uncrippled (unlike I-Openers etc) flash drive computer in a very convenient form-factor.
      OLPC may die out, but their business model isn't our problem. Asus proved that running a real desktop OS in that package is what consumers want as opposed to deliberately crippled equipment running crippled operating systems. Crippling gives "product differentiation", but it still leaves a gap. Asus just exploited that gap.
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  5. Sadly, no... by nweaver · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The software stack may be questionable, but the hardware is brilliant.

    Nothing else comes close for efficiency, cost, battery life (with working software), ruggedness, total lifetime, etc.

    The thing is VERY tough (i've tossed mine several times), very low power (3 hours battery life with 100% broken power management. Good power management should get 6+ hours battery life for typical users), with a brilliant screen. Just put real software on it and its very nice.

    Let alone the environmental tolerance: Normal notebook batteries die if you try charging them at 100F.

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    1. Re:Sadly, no... by cryingpoet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The software stack may be questionable, but the hardware is brilliant. The external hardware is durable and well placed, but the overall system is anything but brilliant. There is no reason to use an x86 processor for the project. This should be treated as an embedded design.

      To further reduce costs and increase battery life a RISC based processor should be used. Suitable ARM based System-On-Chip (SOC) processors run up to 800 MHz, thus reducing power consumption and increasing performance. Nvidia, ATI, and other companies make graphics accelerators that are more than sufficient to meet the video conferencing needs. The systems has an 800 x 600 display and uses NAND Flash memory with no hard drive, it should be thought of as an embedded product.

      The XO laptop uses Nickel-Cadmium battery rather than a Lithium-Ion. The intended use case is for students who will only have power part of the day if at all. An Nickel-Cadmium battery is not suitable for this many recharge cycles. The hardware is NOT brilliant.

    2. Re:Sadly, no... by legutierr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The software stack may be questionable, but the hardware is brilliant. The software stack is actually very cool and innovative. Unfortunately, it is also way too ambitious for the distribution timeline that OLPC has. It tries to reinvent the filesystem and all the standard WIMP GUI conventions, even while implementing everything in *Python*. On top of that, almost every element of the software stack (browser, word processor, etc.) is either implemented from scratch, or re-implemented in Python on top of a low-level branch of FOSS code like gecko or AbiWord.

      Sugar is a worthwhile project. Unfortunately, it is not yet stable (memory leaks, etc), the kinks of the completely re-imagined user experience have not been worked out, and not every "activity" that is needed to provide a complete user experience exists.

      I hope that Sugar is not dead, because when that thing actually starts working...(famous last words?) More importantly, I hope that OLPC makes some very clear and unambiguous statements regarding the future and the status of Sugar, because it needs a strong developer community to survive, and I sure as hell am not going to write anything for it if it is completely abandoned. What a waste it would be, after so much good work.
    3. Re:Sadly, no... by Rorschach1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was reasonably impressed with the hardware. Had to cram some folded paper into the battery compartment to stop the rattling, but other than that the construction seemed solid. The keyboard is mushy, though, and probably the most annoying I've used since the Timex Sinclair 1000.

      I've had the touch pad start freaking out in odd ways, with the pointer randomly jumping when I lift my finger to reposition it.

      The screen is very impressive, especially for the cost. The camera is surprisingly good. The software is, IMHO, a steaming pile of crap in its current state, wholly unsuitable for its target audience. It's slow to load, simple operations like exiting programs are inconsistent between applications, and there seems to be little to no built-in help.

      Both of my kids (ages 9 and 12) gave up on using it. My daughter (the 9-year-old) much prefers her old Gateway P2-550 laptop running Windows 2000, despite the machine being an ancient cast-off that ceased being a useful business computer several years ago. Firefox on that machine is vastly superior to the XO-1's browser, and the overall experience is much less frustrating.

      Despite my doubts about the OLPC project from the beginning, I've WANTED it to succeed, and I still hope to see it succeed. I want to believe that the open source community can build something that will make a real difference in the developing world, but it looks like there's still a long way to go.

    4. Re:Sadly, no... by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is no reason to use an x86 processor for the project.

      Okay. Is there any reason NOT to use an x86 CPU? There are some great low-power "embedded" CPU solutions out there, but is it accurate to say x86-based CPUs do not and cannot meet those criteria?

      The systems has an 800 x 600 display

      It's actually 1200x900. I'm not sure where you got your numbers from.

      I wonder what else about the device you might be misinformed about?

  6. It looks by esocid · · Score: 5, Interesting
    like Bender was kind of forced to resign since all of his responsibilities were absorbed into the other 4 restructured areas. Since January the OLPC has lost three top execs, one of whom was asked to stop collaborating with Bender. Something seems a little fishy with this operation now.

    In an interview with BusinessWeek in early March, OLPC Chairman Negroponte said OLPC was "doing almost impossible things," and that the organization needed to be managed "more like Microsoft." He said OLPC was reorganizing into four departments and looking for a CEO to lead the nonprofit.
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  7. Related to Ivan Krstic's resignation by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 3, Informative

    It was the demotion of Bender that prompted Ivan Krstic' to resign last month, so the damage to OLPC by their stupid demotion of Bender is not limited to just the loss of him. I wonder if anyone else will be leaving over this?

    1. Re:Related to Ivan Krstic's resignation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      krstic is not a loss to OLPC; I worked there for 2 years and Ivan was nothing but an egotistical brat who never showed up for meetings where he was supposed to present code he'd written, because he never actually wrote more than 500 lines of code and instead got interns to do everything he should have been doing from day 1.

  8. Re:romantic? WTF? by Yvanhoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From a romantic standpoint, less business is a GOOD thing.

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  9. Direct Link to Resignation letter by styryx · · Score: 4, Informative

    Direct Link to Resignation letter

    I was going to submit this story after finding it on Digg or Reddit; the headline was focusing on Negreponte(sp?) allegedly wishing to partner with MS to put XP on XO in order to sell more units. After reading the letter and there being no mention of it I decided against submission.

  10. Re:GOOD... by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There were rumors posted at one point that Apple had offered to donate a core OS, but were turned down for not being completely open-source. Perhaps if those rumors had any truth, they could be fulfilled now.

    I hope not. Look I'm as big of an OS X fan as anyone, but it is not really suited to the OLPC project in a number of ways. Also, the all OSS stack makes sense with regard to their mission, to bootstrap an intellectual property creation industry in these nations. Being able to edit and modify all the code provides a starting place for this project to sustain itself via the user base.

    I'd sure rather have MacOS than linux or XP, given the choice, if I was a third world kid who wanted to learn something.

    The OLPC software is very well designed for its core tasks of educating children, which is quite different from general purpose computing. As a kid, I'd much rather have had an OLPC that allows me to learn with all the other kids in my school, than even a modern OS X system. Swapping it out for OS X makes little more sense than doing the same with WinXP.

  11. Bender Was Quoted... by FrankDrebin · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... "bite my rubberized, lime-green ass."

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  12. Re:romantic? WTF? by smittyoneeach · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not if your customer is the governor of NY.

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  13. Re:Oh Please! by Alex+Belits · · Score: 2, Informative

    BWAHAHAHAHA!

    I am writing this response on one of those laptops, running prerelease Ubuntu Hardy that I have just configured for it.

    This laptop is not going to do any 3D modeling or video editing any soon, but for everything that belongs in a classroom it's fine.

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  14. Actually... by nweaver · · Score: 4, Informative

    A: The x86 used is already very low power and very high integration, supporting sub-millisecond sleep states. With Amdahl's law being what it is, replacing the processor with a mystic 0 power CPU wouldn't add all that much to battery life. The TOTAL power consumption is 5W already, and the CPU's share of that power budget (when you consider CPU and not the associated control logic for memory, IO, etc) is low.

    And in return, x86 compatibility is a good thing, because it opens up a huge world of binary software. For one, x86 is far better supported by just about everybody.

    B: The OLPC actually uses a 15 W-Hr LiFeP (Lithium Ferro-Polymer) battery. Which is actually 4x the charge lifespan of LiIon, and has far greater environmental tolerance, and can even be composted for disposal.

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  15. Re:GOOD... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And how does making them dependent on a foreign company for any computer-related job (which, by the time they are grown up is likely to mean pretty much any job) helping them? Phase two of the project aims to have the countries that bought the first generation laptops manufacture their own version two, based on the designs and code from version one. If you install XP on them, then none of the children will develop the expertise to to write version two of the software stack.

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  16. BS yes, but whose? by fm6 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nowhere in his exit statement does Bender contradict the rumors about him being forced out. Instead he gives the standard "leaving to pursue other interests". This is a conventional explanation people give to avoid antagonizing their former colleagues. This concept might be strange to shot-from-the-lip Slashdotters, but it is common among people who don't view life as extended flame war.

    You give a quote that seems intended to contradict the story, but doesn't really — this isn't just about whether or not the XO should run Windows. Besides, you don't say who you're quoting. One of your sock puppets, perhaps?

  17. Benders next project by SubComdTaco · · Score: 2, Informative

    Negroponte said Bender was burned out after helping to shape OLPC for two years" But Bender already has new plans: to launch an independent effort to further the development of the XOs' homegrown software, known as Sugar, and get it to run on Linux computers other than XOs. "Sugar is in a narrow place and it is ripe to be unleashed," he wrote in an e-mail exchange. The AP article alos goes on to quote Negroponte as saying: "that an overriding insistence on open-source had hampered the XOs, saying Sugar "grew amorphously" and "didn't have a software architect who did it in a crisp way." For instance, the laptops do not support Flash animation, widely used on the Web. "There are several examples like that, that we have to address without worrying about the fundamentalism in some of the open-source community," he said. "One can be an open-source advocate without being an open-source fundamentalist." Negroponte added, Windows might be the sole operating system, and Sugar would be educational software running on top of it. That might disappoint advocates of open-source software who helped bankroll OLPC and cheered the challenge it represented to Microsoft's dominance. Unlike proprietary software like Windows, open-source applications are developed by a community of programmers and the underlying code is freely shared.

  18. Re:GOOD... by dunng808 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    being that I am not well-informed on the subject of educational pedagogy, I really can't say how well the software actually achieves its core tasks


    All too often those who claim proficiency in pedagogy are merely hiding their lack of brilliance behind a stack of journal articles and study results. I draw inspiration from Shin'ichi Suzuki, founder of Talent Education, who with no formal training in education single-handedly created one of the most successfull methods of teaching music to children. Back in the 70s Suzuki was widely criticized by American violin pedagogues who denounced him as a crackpot. The Suzuki method was built on a common sense view of learning which begins with this observation: children naturally learn their mother tongue without the help of experts. Therefore, children know how to learn, and mothers are the best teachers.

    Now apply that view to homeschooling and an interesting picture develops. Parents are fully qualified to teach young children. As children get older they benefit from subject matter experts, but it does not require a brick-and-morter school to provide them. K-12 teachers complain about the lack of parent involvement, especially as the children get older. With homeschoolers, the parent is always involved.

    how does that mesh with a core learning curriculum based on The Three R's?


    Hold on, there! Who says education has a core of three R's? Or a core of anything? This is just pedagogical pablum passed along year after year as if it were inscribed in stone by the almighty himself. Stringing together Python scripts could very well be much more relavent to today's children.
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  19. Re:Oh Please! by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    They belong in an art or trade school, kids have more widely applicable things to study -- like math, sciences, engineering, literature, etc.

    If you don't think 3d modeling is useful to learning math, sciences, and engineering, you are a genuine idiot. And if you do not think that video editing can help you learn literature you have no imagination, to boot. But perhaps I'm just misunderstanding you? Regardless, your comment is proof positive that a low slashdot ID doesn't mean anything.

    Also no one should learn 3D modeling and video editing on a computer he can carry -- inexperienced user needs massive amount of resources and very large screen to be able to do anything with it.

    While my laptop is WORLDS ahead of the XO, I have a Compaq nw9440 which is MORE than adequate for learning 3d graphics with its Core Duo, 2GB memory, and nVidia Quadro FX1500 with 1680x1050 resolution. It is in a meganotebook (17") form factor with a three button touchpad and a full keyboard.

    Given that many people got their start on an Amiga running Lightwave 3D on, say, a 25MHz processor and with maybe 8MB of RAM, and at NTSC resolutions (even interlaced with overscan you're looking at maybe 800x480 or so on an OCS or ECS Amiga) I'd say you pretty much have no idea what you're talking about.

    By the way, google sketchup is a 3d modeler which can be immediately useful in a variety of projects and which doesn't require a degree to use. Perhaps you've heard of it? I bet many kids could learn to use that if they weren't being treated like idiots by arrogant assholes who think they know everything about how everyone else learns.

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  20. Re:GOOD... by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It may be exciting for students to hack together small Python scripts in Pippy or have a collaborative jam session in TamTam, but how does that mesh with a core learning curriculum based on The Three R's?

    Children are small humans (shocking but true) and humans learn best when they are involved with something with which they are interested. Computers are useful for this sort of thing because they are applicable to basically everything.

    Here's a simple truth for you: Those who are able to manipulate information have an edge over those who do not. For instance I can make my own vector maps instead of paying for them; I can also get my own information on the nutritive value of foods instead of buying a carb counter book simply by downloading a freely available government database.

    I was in a GATE program in elementary school and they told me I could not participate in astronomy because I was too young. Today I am a math idiot. Perhaps if instead of quashing my enthusiasm, they had presented me with mathematics related to something I was interested in, I would be more comfortable with it today? Unfortunately, even so-called "Gifted and Talented" programs are really just a means to "deal with" "problem children" (I was disruptive because I was bored) and to park them somewhere.

    What I'm trying to say is that presenting children with the maximum number of options is critical. Lots of the functionality on the system isn't necessary for all purposes. You have the option to not use it all. Meanwhile, including it may be what gets one more child interested in something that saves our collective bacon. You never know.

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