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Florida Judge Smacks Down RIAA

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "The RIAA is going to have to face the music in Tampa, Florida, and answer the charges of extortion, trespass, conspiracy, unlicensed investigation, and computer fraud and abuse that have been leveled against them there. And the judge delivered his ruling against them in in pretty unceremonious fashion — receiving their dismissal motion last night, and denying the motion this morning. The RIAA's unvarying M.O., when hit with counterclaims, is to make a motion to dismiss them. It did just that in one Tampa case, UMG v. Del Cid, but the judge upheld 5 of the 6 counterclaims. The RIAA quickly settled that one. When a new case came up in the same Tampa courthouse before the very same judge, and the same 5 counterclaims were leveled against the record companies, I opined that 'it is highly unlikely that the RIAA will make a motion to dismiss counterclaims,' since I knew they'd be risking sanctions if they did. Well I guess I underestimated the chutzpah — or the propensity for frivolous motion practice — of the RIAA lawyers, as they in essence thumbed their nose at the judge, making the dismissal motion anyway, telling District Judge Richard A. Lazzara that his earlier decision had been wrong. The judge wasted no time telling the record companies that he did not agree (PDF)."

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  1. Re:In the End, It Doesn't Matter by Skye16 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Very much so wrong. Look at who brought the suit the first time: UMG.

    The individual record companies have to sue; the RIAA just does the legwork for "finding" who "made files available" and hands it off.

  2. Re:Pop quiz for you litigation buffs out there by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    What are "Rule 11 Sanctions?" Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure prohibits "frivolous" conduct by attorneys. This was about as "frivolous" as it gets.
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  3. Re:In the End, It Doesn't Matter by Tenebrousedge · · Score: 3, Informative

    This has been answered by others, but it's worth noting that the reason why this doesn't involve the RIAA is because the RIAA doesn't hold the copyrights involved. It's beginning to seem like copyright law is unenforceable...

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  4. Re:In the End, It Doesn't Matter by Sancho · · Score: 3, Informative

    Copyright appears to be largely unenforceable on pseudo-anonymous networks, due in part to the difficulty of gathering evidence on these networks. This will only lead to the members of the RIAA buying stronger laws which either allow a suit for weaker evidence, or allow seizure of computer equipment in order to gather evidence of copyright infringement. In the latter case, such a law is already making its way through the congressional process.

  5. Re:I'm curious by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    lawyers do that kind of thing all the time I disagree. Lawyers will occasionally, and very rarely, delicately 'respectfully take exception' to a ruling or respectfully call to the judge's attention something they feel he or she might have 'overlooked', but I have never seen a brief which simply tells a judge that the decision -- which he himself decided -- was "wrongly decided". Take a look at pages 28-30 of the brief, where they tell Judge Lazzara, that his prior decision was "wrongly decided", and tell me if you've ever seen anything so insulting to a judge.
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  6. Re:More pro-piracy bullshit by ehrichweiss · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know you're being funny but FYI, Robert Palmer, who sang "Addicted to Love", died in 2003.

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  7. Re:Who? by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2, Informative

    The RIAA doesn't own any copyrights, the member companies do. So all legal filings have to come on behalf of the actual copyright holder (ie ATLANTIC RECORDING CORP). But it is the RIAA performing the investigations, making settlement offers, and (as I understand it) even employing the attorneys who litigate the cases, at least initially. So yes, as a matter of legal record, it is ATLANTIC RECORDING CORP being represented in court, but as a practical matter it is the RIAA doing so on behalf of all their member companies . Everything you said is correct except for the italicized portion. The RIAA has hundreds of member companies. The ONLY ones participating in the litigation campaign are the Big Four (EMI, Warner, SONY BMG, and Vivendi/Universal) a couple of dozen of their affiliates. None of the other RIAA members are participating. Which makes me wonder whether it's really just the Big Four using the RIAA as a front.
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  8. Re:Defendants not even asked! by ikkonoishi · · Score: 2, Informative

    If the door is chipped the state of the action is changed. You are no longer taking the same action, ie attacking an undamaged door. You are taking a new action attacking a damaged door.

  9. Re:More pro-piracy bullshit by scatters · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's a coincidence because Peter Gabriel also had his servers stolen :) Since he's not exactly a favourite child of the RIAA, I suspect their hand in it.

    "I would say to artists at the beginning of their career in this business: own your name, own your website, own your rights. There's a future with a record business, which I think does a great job sometimes, but as a service industry and not as owners of creative talent. But it's only if artists are smart enough, which traditionally we've never been, to act together and to work together that we're going to see that sort of future." (Peter Gabriel speaking at the BT Digital Music Awards in 2006)

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  10. Re:Pfft... by Hyppy · · Score: 3, Informative

    24 significant bits does not a class B make