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Gaming Gear Showdown, Simplicity vs. Hype

Slack3r78 writes "Gizmodo is running a feature putting the gaming marketing hype to the test and seeing whether it really makes your playing any more 1337. They match up the latest products from Razer and SteelSeries along with some five-year-old Logitech products and come to the conclusion that ... it doesn't seem to matter that much. It looks like maybe you can't buy your way into finally beating that annoying 13-year-old at your favorite FPS after all."

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  1. It's not about the real effect. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's about the social status.

    Gotta be honest though. Having the 'leetest rig' just makes you top of a very small pile.

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    1. Re:It's not about the real effect. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Funny

      Gotta be honest though. Having the 'leetest rig' just makes you top of a very small pile.
      A pile of what, exactly?

      It seems that "leet" mostly means a side window, big fans (preferably with a control panel in one of the drive bays), really weird SATA cables, and lots and lots of blue LEDs.
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    2. Re:It's not about the real effect. by bistromath007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey man, I only got that because it came with the only power supply BB had that would run my stuff. Don't call me that. :(

    3. Re:It's not about the real effect. by evanbd · · Score: 4, Funny

      Blue? You haven't gone to UV yet? I hear it's worth at least an extra 0.4FPS.

    4. Re:It's not about the real effect. by Hatta · · Score: 3, Funny

      Pasty pencil necked geeks. If you've got to be in that pile, you really do want to be on the top.

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    5. Re:It's not about the real effect. by Gerzel · · Score: 5, Funny

      UV is nothing.

      My rig puts out high intensity GAMMA radiation, have it face into my roommate's rooms so they know what I have...haven't heard from them in a while though, and their rooms are starting to smell funny, but I'm not gonna walk across the stream or leave my rig.

      Keeps my pizza warm tho.

    6. Re:It's not about the real effect. by Agripa · · Score: 5, Informative

      and their rooms are starting to smell funny

      No need to worry about your roommate. You just need a shower. How could they rot after death with continuous gamma ray exposure killing all of the microbes?
  2. Re:You don't say? by Fx.Dr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Exactly.

    As stated at the end of TFA, just buy what feels comfortable - the rest will, or should, come naturally. If you have to contort your fingers to fit the mouse/kbd, it's only natural your game will take a hit.

  3. It is not the size of your joystick that matters by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 4, Funny

    it is in how you use it.

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  4. It's about the armor.. by Tominva1045 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That 13 year old is gonna own ya because he has become exhalted with the Scryers, has a sweet Tier 5 armor set, and spends all day dueling his homies because he doesn't have a job and can play WOW 13 hours a day. It's not the computer harware.

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    1. Re:It's about the armor.. by Hojima · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, they were talking about fps not mmorpg. If the 13 year old beats you it's because of many reasons. The first is close to your point, and that is he has a lot of time to practice. No matter what input device you have, there must be some mastery to it. The other thing you can practice in is also the mechanics of the game. It doesn't matter how skillful at sniping you are if you're in close quarters with a shotgun. People who study the map know the right array of weapon pickups to have the advantage in the situation they're in. Other reasons include you sucking, him being lucky, him using macros that you don't have the time to look for or program, him having a less noobish team ect...

  5. Re:You don't say? by VeNoM0619 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I disagree. Sure "fancy" stuff won't make you game better, but functionality DEFINITELY has a huge effect on gameplay.

    The functionality of your mouse makes the greatest difference in a FPS: binding the extra buttons to prevent keyboard movement allowing you to continuously move/jump/crouch etc. to dodge instead of "press whatever key to throw grenade/use good gun". This assumes you have 2-3 fingers for movement, 1-2 for movement actions, you only have at best 1-2 random fingers lingering for a select few keys.

    My personal example would be playing spy in TF2, before I had my 8 button mouse I had issues stabbing engies while placing sappers immediately. Now, I can do it with 90% success - meaning I don't die. Why? Cause all I have to do is press left click, thumb click, left click, while maneuvering with keyboard effectively.

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  6. Re:You don't say? by keithjr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Comfortable or not, it'll be a cold day in hell before I drop $150 on a keyboard, and another $90 for the mouse. The article really doesn't dwell on the cost factor, which for me is the major deterrent to buying "gaming gear."

  7. Re:You don't say? by eln · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You have more faith in humanity than I do.

    You could just as easily say that no one really believes their Monster cables make their stereos sound better. And yet, that company is still in business.

    I think for most people there is a psychological relationship between how expensive something is and how good it is. If these things cost $20, no one would even consider the idea that they would make anyone play better, even if they were built exactly the same. At $300, though, people are more likely to believe it.

  8. Um by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm 41 and at most games I've play online, and they are many, I totally own the 13 year olds. They don't like it much either. Then again I've been playing various games in arcades on on PC's since I was...hmmm about 13. Maybe experience and natural dexterity is better than good gear or having too much time on one's hands?

    1. Re:Um by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Eh, I think it's not a bad point to make. The 13 year old uber gamer stereotype gets passed around a fair bit, so it's worth pointing out that it's not very common.

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    2. Re:Um by erlenic · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm 41 and at most games I've play online, and they are many, I totally own the 13 year olds. I'm sure your mother would be proud. ... as she yells down the basement stairs to tell you that it's time for dinner.
  9. it was never about status or edge or hype by netsavior · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is about buying a product that is comfortable to use for 18 hours straight. I mean in hour 1, I have the same skill with a $5 optical mouse on a piece of cardboard as I do with a reasonable mouse on a reasonable surface, but come see me in 18 hours with the crap setup and I will not be as sharp as with the comfortable one.

    1. Re:it was never about status or edge or hype by CubeRootOf · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm prett sure you will be in the same state either way:

      Hungry, tired, thirsty, and in need of a trip to the nearest bathroom... unless you have the 1337 catheter add-on for your gaming rig.

      In that case, I guess you would be in better shape. Just hungry and tired, because you can always drink from the catheter.

      and I bet you would even be able to spell catheter at

  10. Re:You don't say? by Ryukotsusei · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Which still doesn't warrant a gaming mouse. You just need a mouse with multiple buttons. The only factor that gaming equipment offers is comfort, basically you can play longer without wearing yourself out. Then again, maybe you have bigger problems if you're getting to the point where you can wear youreslf out.

  11. Re:You don't say? by Shagg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You could just as easily say that no one really believes their Monster cables make their stereos sound better.

    Knowledgeable people don't believe it.

    And yet, that company is still in business.

    The world is full of stupid people.

    I think for most people there is a psychological relationship between how expensive something is and how good it is.

    Yep, see above. ;)

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  12. Re:You don't say? by vux984 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    an optical mouse is better than a ball,

    And a laser mouse is better than an optical mouse.

    a silent and/or small motion motion keyboard helps

    I tend to say, "go with what is most comfortable". Quality keyboards tend to have 2 crucial gaming features:

    1) more simultaneous key presses. Nothing sucks worse than side strafe moving while crouching and flicking the reload button and having nothing happen.

    2) quality = durability/consistency. the only thing that sucks worse than 1) above is playing on a keyboard where one of the w-a-s-d has gone 'squishy' or 'sticky' or otherwise doesn't have the same feel or travel as the other 3, for example. Any keyboard can fail, but cheap ones fail sooner and more often.

    most of these 15 button mice are useless because only the standard 5 buttons can normally be mapped without having to run some special software in the background which impeeds the performance

    Trading 0.1 fps to be able to run a useful mouse macro is nearly always worth it. The trick is coming up with useful macros -- some games have them... some don't.

  13. Re:You don't say? by Slack3r78 · · Score: 4, Funny

    As stated at the end of TFA You know that you've just implicitly admitted breaking one of Slashdot's oldest and most revered rules, right? ;)
  14. Could be because of the newer games by Cthefuture · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Games have gotten more and more sucky over the years. Everything is "realistic", slow and boring. Nobody plays the twitch games like Quake where it actually mattered how good your equipment was. This may be why the specialized gamer hardware does nothing.

    I have personally found that it's not hard at all to play games like COD, Crysis, Battlefield, etc. on a poor refresh rate LCD and piece of shit optical mouse. It just doesn't matter. There is no way I could kick ass in Quake3 with that stuff though because just moving the mouse fast enough makes it lose tracking. This is where better equipment could show its worth.

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  15. Coding keyboards? by atrus · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Now for what really matters, how do those keyboards do for coding? :-)

    I'm always interested in "better" keyboards for large volumes of text entry. It does get minus points for putting the Ctrl key in the wrong spot - who uses capslock anyway?

  16. Re:You don't say? by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Funny

    What is spending $150 on a Keyboard and $90 on a mouse when your talking about spending countless hours using them. Your getting a lot more bang for your buck then you would for darn near anything else you'd spend the money on.

    I dunno, your mom is going to want you to EVENTUALLY kick in for food and use of basement.....

  17. Re:I only partially convinced by realmolo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You do realize that mouse sensitivity is COMPLETELY dependent on software, right? The "DPI" rating of your mouse hardware is totally irrelevant.

    Think about it. What's the smallest distance you can move your mouse pointer on screen? One pixel. No matter WHAT the DPI rating of your mouse is, this will never change. It's the sensitivity settings in software that are determining how far you have to move your mouse in order to move the pointer one pixel on the actual screen.

    DPI ratings are a scam on mice.

  18. That 13 year old kid... by The+Moof · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Honestly, I've never really cared about beating that 13 year-old kid.

    I always take the stance that I'm an adult who works 40+ hours a week and has other responsibilities that take my time. The kid likely plays every waking moment. The fact I can come close to beating him with significantly less practice says something about my skill at the game. Or the kid's.

    Then again, ignorance is bliss.

  19. Re:You don't say? by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, if that's what it all boils down to, than why bother calling this stuff "gaming" equipment?

    Its marketing. They've identified a target demographic with:
    a) interest in the product
    b) disposable income

    Your average enterprise manager isn't interested in equiping his team with higher quality peripherals, and is even less interested in shelling out for them. To a phb, they only reason you got an optical mouse was that they were the same price as wheel.

    Why can't you get the same features and comfort on something that doesn't have that doesn't make you look like a status-whore to own?

    You can actually. Razer for example has a 'pro' series of its mice that are white. And the product name is 'Click v1.6' or something instead of 'Death Adder in Biohazard Green', specifically to be more palatable to getting your PO approved at the 'office'.

    Logitech and Microsoft also make decent quality mice that aren't overly garish.

    But at the end of the day the big market for this stuff are teens. And they buy it as much for the status as the performance. And there is plenty of 'gaming hardware' that is ALL flash and no substance. The same 'Razer' that makes extremely good quality mice also has a 'cord manager' (to keep your mouse cord from getting out of control, pulling, tangling, etc. That little dohickey is little more than steel bolt and screw that that they charge $20 bucks for. You could improvise somethign equivalent from the hardware store for maybe $2.

    Other products, like gamers computer cases are often poorly designed cheap plastic monstrosities -- while others are genuinely high end product.

    Mousing around for eight hours a day is a significant part of many jobs the average /.er will take. You should have something better than a dollar-store wrist-rapist for that.

    You should. Do you? If not, why not?

  20. Re:You don't say? by Gerzel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    High cost keyboards CAN make a difference in the long run, but not for gamers.

    For a typist the feel of the keys and layout of the keyboard really can cut down on wear and tear to the hands. An investment in a good keyboard can save you a payout for medical care later.

    Still in the world of ergonomics there are a lot of quacks so you really do have to do your research on what is truly a good keyboard.

  21. Re:You don't say? by Gilmoure · · Score: 3, Funny

    Next you're going to say that Brilliant Pebbles don't reduce comb filter effects in the corners of your listening room.

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  22. Re:You don't say? by vux984 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Stop talking about Razer.

    I both mocked and applauded them in the same post.

    Why does anybody care about them?

    They make very good quality mice in general.

    They make very good quality AMBIDEXTROUS mice in particular.

    I hate ergonomic mice. As a left hander I find most of them, being designed for right handed people, extremely uncomfortable. Logitech, for example, doesn't make any of their worthwhile products in a left handed configuration, hell they don't make anything really good that's ambidextrous.

    Their mice only have two buttons,

    Mine (copperhead) has 6 'buttons', two of which are hard to reach. Plus a clickable scrollwheel, so 7 if you count that. Being that its ambidextrous I can forgive 2 buttons being hard to reach because its symmetrial. The buttons I can't reach are the right hand thumb buttons. I'm sure a right hander would find it equally awkward to press the two left hand buttons. But all the buttons are discrete and can be mapped independantly.

    and half of them have the laser in the ass for some bizarre reason.

    A lot of gamers hold the mouse with their fingers instead of resting their hand on it. And they make fine left/right mouse movements by swivelling the mouse with their thumb and ring finger, instead of actually pushing the whole mouse because you can make much more precise movements with minimal effort - e.g. for sniping. (imagine it was bolted to the table through the scrollwheel; that's the rough axis its swivelled on). Locating the laser in the 'ass' gives you better control and range doing this.

    Razer's not for everyone. I like their mice, not much else. Their cable management system and 'mouse surfaces' are a scam on par with Monster, I prefer the saitek eclipseII to their keyboards, and their headsets? Nothing wrong with them, but I use plantronics . And honestly evem with mice I recommend logitech to most people. They make some very well regarded mice. But if you are a left handed mouser logitech sucks complete and total ass.

    Like I said in my original post... you have to separate the quality products from the hype.