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Blogger Incites Outcry Over Twitter Harassment
CNet is reporting that one blogger has started an outcry about harassment as it applies to Twitter. While their written stance appears to support the safeguarding of abuse, Twitter appears to be waffling on the issue when it comes to the hard line of enforcement. "The final response to Waldman's complaint from Twitter co-founder Biz Stone asserted that "Twitter is a communication utility, not a mediator of content," and that "Twitter recognizes that it is not skilled at judging content disputes between individuals. Determining the line between update and insult is not something that Twitter, nor a crowd, would do well. Stone added that Twitter's team would continue talking about which situations were appropriate for account banning."
Oh, the other Twitter.
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People really take this shit seriously. Why can't they just say `we don't care. If you think you're being harassed, go to the police. We make no changes to our code, or messages sent over it, without a court order. If you don't like it - stop using our service.`.
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Its a free service after all. If you don't like it then don't use it. Their TOS from TFA seem to suggest the same that they have no obligation to remove anything.
http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter/topics/twitter_refuses_to_uphold_terms_of_service
There are many people posting in this thread, some more ardently than others. Good points are dotted here and there. Of particular note are the two replies from Twitter employees. It's interesting how neither of them pull the "we have no obligation according to the TOS" card and how neither of them make any move to discredit the complaint.
Is silence tantamount to agreement, in this case?
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There will no doubt be all sorts of threads here about whether Twitter has to remove content, if people are making too big a deal about this, comparisons to Flickr/YouTube/Microsoft(of course), etc... And of course LOTS of conversations about why Twitter is always down.
But to me the real issue here is simple: This will make people say "If that is the way Twitter treats people, I'm moving on".
A community-building site needs its community, otherwise it is just a php script sitting on a server somewhere. Piss off a vocal part of the community and eventually the tide will turn elsewhere.
this moron comes on here and trolls under 10 different names. if he isn't man enough to take the backslash maybe he needs to shut the fuck up and go away.
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
As John Gruber has tweeted, this complainer hasn't shown us what tweets he's complaining about, yet he's got a mob of people raining condemnation on everyone involved. Maybe if we could see what's going on we'd have some way of sympathizing or at least believing there's a real problem.
that it seems they are harassing Twits,
or is it harassment to say they are inciting Twits?
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I am tired of people using teh Interwebs to incite outrage over something on teh Interwebs.
Don't like flamers on Twitter? Don't use it.
I assume harassment on Twitter consists of pre-twittering someone's intention of going for a shit?
Or is it being Twit-rolled
When you're dealing with the level of stupid that feels the need to post updates of whatever mundane crap they're doing at every moment of the day you're going to have to expect to attract a large number of other stupids. I'll say that MAYBE twitter really isn't an integral part of the internet, or blogosphere or whatever so much as it is an exercise in self absorbed gobshittery. I guess that's what 'web 2.0' is supposed to be though.
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Considering the individual in this case is a 'popular blogger' she should expect some bloody hate mail. I'm sure she gets plenty of lovey dovey crap from her followers as well, and they're all doing their very best to send her emails with smiley faces so she'll feel all good about having a blog and a twitter account.
I for one welcome hatred! That's why I'm not posting this anonymously
I have nothing compelling to say
You can't fix stupid.
I've got your sig, right here.
A relati7ely filed countersuit,
People only care because the supposed blogger is hot.
>>>has very carefully painted a picture that has misled many people. (One might ask why Ariel didnâ(TM)t post the full tweets in order to strengthen her case.)
http://www.zeldman.com/2008/05/22/a-tweet-too-far/#comment-37320
She's pissed that someone called her a crack-whore looking cunt.
Here's how I see it: She looks like a crack whore, and all this bitching about being called a name makes her a cunt. Meaning: She's a crack whore looking cunt.
She's an 'internet celebrity' (I guess) and decided to use her real information in her accounts. Next, she made her Flickr account known to all, and also posted skanky pictures in it. And when someone called her out on it, she cried.
She could easily stop using it, since it's just ego masturbation anyway. "Look at all the people who care that I'm brushing my teeth!"
Not a Twitter sockpuppet... but I wish I was.
she is just twitterpated...
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One is a large collection of 14-year olds screaming, bitching, and generally harrassing and trolling as many people as they can.
The other is some blogging site.
fucking drama queen and also a cunt and a crackwhore twitter this
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Oh man I'm going to go post this information in /b/!!!
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Is it libelous? Is it threatening? If it's neither, there is no legal grounds to remove it.
Twitter may decide that they "don't want to be that kind of service", but that's their business decision, as is how they proceed against TOS violaters, or whether they do at all.
One blogger whining about 'harassment' gets a few supporting comments on her post, and she's 'inciting outrage'?
Must be a web 2.0 thing.
It seems that OUR twitter is infected with a rare brain mold that only grows in Mom's basement. Don't blame him, pity him instead. The mold is slowly frying his synapses one by one.
this is obviously news to you
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She just started her blog in February 2008.
Welcome to the inter.. strike that..
She is in "Marketing and Advertising".
As Bill Hicks would say, "just kill yourself."
attention whore
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I doubt more than one person wrote this offtopic, flamebait thread. I know because I have been playing the dreadfully easy, multiple account game. It would not surprise me to learn that you work for M$ or some kind of PR firm under their hire but it does not matter. No one here cares or listens, except to reflect, "Yeah, that's what M$ does to people who bad mouth them."
I'm happy to make you and your employer angry. I do it by showing up M$ BS and running around your censorship and insults. Sooner or later your employer will realize you are a waste of money.
The bottom line is that you are worse than ineffective, you are counter productive. You are on the losing side the free software battle and making things worse for yourself. Insult and disruption are empty. At the end of the day, you have nothing - not even a censored or upset victim. Worse, your work won't make the product your employer needs to survive. It just creates animosity towards them. The more you spam, the more people hate you.
I'll be here when you are gone. I'll be talking about all of the same things people like to talk about now - but the discussion will be much nicer without M$ shitting on those things and the conversation.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
I had never heard of her, but now I know exactly what this guy thinks of her . . .
It's stated that twitter is not for use by people under 18. In other words, it's for adults.
What happened to being an adult and taking care of yourself?
Let's review what evidence is available thus far:
NO personal information was posted. No phone number, no social security number, no address, no work information -- hell, HER OWN WEBPAGE has more personal information.
NO specific threats of violence or harm.
NO statements that even remotely resembled anything of that nature.
From the evidence available, the person was subjected to no more than what any CHILD deals with on the schoolyard.
This is basically the equivalent of crying to mommy to punish that meanie who called you a poopie-head.
(Again, this is going by the evidence available -- if there were actually anything more dangerous (e.g. posting an address, phone number, etc.) then surely she would have posted some evidence from the beginning, or even now, right?)
Well, maybe because the "Internet community" isn't even a community at all. It's just a bunch of unrelated people who use the same network. There is no single topic, interest, point of view, etc, which would be shared among all members of that supposed "community".
It's bit like claiming that USA by mid-1800's had complete double standards. "OMG, slavery is protected by the constitution and an integral part of our way of life." Then in the same day, "OMG, slavery is an abomination and the constitution doesn't really endorse it." Well, yes, because it was different people.
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This is a girl whose claim to fame is that she's "famous within Web 2.0 bubbles" or somesuch nonsense.
You know, at a certain point, you get a life. And what I mean is, if "Twitter" (whatever that is) does something you don't like, then go elsewhere. This idea that the web is like real life reminds me that people need to get out of the house more, outside. Live a little. The internet is not life, and life is not the internet.
People "famous" on the web reminds me of little kids who learn all the names of dinosaurs because it's something they can impress the adults with.
If people started to harass me on slashdot, i'd ignore it or go elsewhere.
I still trying to wrap my head around being "famous" because you "blog". It's a niche within a niche. It's pathetic beyond words.
Or you are just yet another little fucktard who thinks they matter and that the world gives one shit about you in any way shape or form.
Thats the lesson for today kids. If you get upset over shit you dont have to read. On a screen you can turn off. you ARE a fucktard. please kill yourself so the general noise level of the universe will drop a tiny tiny tiny bit.
a "social-media insights consultant"?
If I understand it correctly it means, according to Wikipedia, "someone who is too lazy/stupid to get a real job. Who wants to sit around all day, playing with their Mac (what else?) and waste time on dumb pointless sites like Twitter."
I forgot, she's a "sort of celebrity".
Which means no one's ever heard of her.
At the end of the day, who gives a shit?
Grow up, get out into the real world with real responsibilities to concern you.
Oh no, perhaps I'm harassing her now as well!
More toys thrown out of the pram in another fit of immature petulance.
Good grief. Twitter harassment. Turn off your Twitter for a few days and read a book. Or, exit home and interact with a human on the street. There is a whole world out there waiting for your. You are more than Twitter.
I say:
Girl, get a life. This "online harassment" shit is nonsense, just don't use the twitter anymore. That's it, problem solved.
I witnessed a number of "online wars" on several online communities. Some people just take it way too seriously. But it is really very childish.
"While their written stance appears to support the safeguarding of abuse,..."
How morally reprehensible. Abuse should never be safeguarded.
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