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Stealing From Banks One Cent at a Time

JRHelgeson writes "In a story strangely reminiscent of Superman 3, a 'hacker' allegedly stole over $50,000 from PayPal, Google Checkout as well as several unnamed online brokerage firms. When opening an online brokering account it is common practice for companies such as E-trade and Schwab to send a tiny payment — ranging from only a few cents to a couple of dollars — to verify that the user has access to the bank account listed. According to the story, the attacker wrote a script that opened thousands of accounts at dozens of these providers. He was arrested not for taking the money, but for using false names in order to get it."

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  1. Comment from said "hacker" by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 5, Funny

    When reached for comment, the "hacker" had this to say:

    "I don't want to go to jail because there are robbers and rapers and rapers who rape robbers. "
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    1. Re:Comment from said "hacker" by s.bots · · Score: 5, Funny

      Looks like someone could be doin' time in a "Federal 'pound-me-in-the-ass' Prison"...

      Hey Mike! Watch out for your cornhole buddy!

    2. Re:Comment from said "hacker" by rugatero · · Score: 5, Funny

      What makes him a "hacker"?

      He used a computer.

      Heck he even wrote a script. In the eyes of your average Joe that makes him a diabolical hacking genius.

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    3. Re:Comment from said "hacker" by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is an interesting legal situation in that, technically, both the crime and its punishment could be called a "salami attack".

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    4. Re:Comment from said "hacker" by 0kComputer · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have a client in there right now. He says the trick is to kick someone's ass the first day, or become someone's bitch.

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    5. Re:Comment from said "hacker" by Ibiwan · · Score: 5, Funny

      " And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly 'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?" And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing, father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench. "

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  2. PC load letter?! by jchillerup · · Score: 5, Funny

    What the fuck does that mean?!

    1. Re:PC load letter?! by jchillerup · · Score: 5, Funny

      Whew. Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays.

    2. Re:PC load letter?! by palegray.net · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think the subject of this article would be better served with "legal size" paper.

  3. You know... by scubamage · · Score: 2, Funny

    I had this very idea a few days ago when paypal put two 40 cent payments in my checking account. Thank god I didn't go with it, eh?

  4. Well it is true.... by cortesoft · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

  5. Relax by boristdog · · Score: 2, Funny

    The most you'll do is a few years in one of those "country club" prisons, right?

  6. What were the crimes again? by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wire fraud? Bank fraud? Don't you need to have done these actions against actual banks for these kinds of charges to get levied?

  7. Balasts by bsDaemon · · Score: 4, Funny

    At least his script didn't almost capsize the oil tankers... people would be super pissed off then.

    1. Re:Balasts by MaXMC · · Score: 2, Funny

      I really hope he didn't call himself Crash Override...

  8. Whatever you do.... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't drop the kryptonite in the shower.

  9. It was over... by hyperz69 · · Score: 4, Funny

    when he started using names like...

    Haywood Jablome
    Connie Lingus
    Dick Trickle
    Seymour Butts
    Hugh Jass
    Ben Dover

    Should of used a better name generator.

  10. oh wait.... by apodyopsis · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least he did not create a script that automatically rounded every payment up to the nearest... oh wait...

    Even if he gets a fine, he can always apply to pay off the debt in small payments - say a few cents every time...

    Reminds me of a debt my father picked up from a school my sister attended for less then a week. They charged him for a whole year. Not to be deterred he promptly paid them half the amount they invoiced him for. Months later and six angry letters later he paid them half of the sum they asked for. Months later.. ah well, I am sure you can see the pattern here. Fast forward 14 years and they finally wrote of the rest of his debt (I think 1GPB) as a good will gesture (and I am reliably informed he is legend in the schools finance department). I have no idea how much the administration cost to school at the end of it, but it all seemed good natured enough.

    1. Re:oh wait.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      There was a case a couple years back here in Canada where a guy was having a disagreement with his bank about a credit card charge. Ultimately the bank was right (under the contract terms) and the guy had to pay.

      In protest, he paid his $500 credit card bill in 50,000 electronic payments of one penny. His next monthly statement is over an inch thick and the bank is very unhappy with the printing & mailing costs ...

  11. $50,000? by PawNtheSandman · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know what I'd do with $50,000? 2 chicks at the same time.

    1. Re:$50,000? by gmuslera · · Score: 5, Funny

      In a few months, filling the gas tank would be another use for that amount of money. Is good that so many online services are willing to cooperate in that hard task.

    2. Re:$50,000? by Andreaskem · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why blow that much money on 2 minutes of entertainment?

  12. Re:He stole my idea! by norminator · · Score: 5, Funny

    But he only stole it a little bit, a whole bunch of times...

  13. Re:Pound you in the ass prison... by xpuppykickerx · · Score: 1, Funny

    How dare you judge me? I mean what are you? You think you're some kind of, like, angel here? No, you're just this penny-stealing... wanna-be criminal... man.

  14. I wonder by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    How many hours of community service do you get for 58,000 counts of petty theft?

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    1. Re:I wonder by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      116,000 years in jail

      Yeah, but he'll be eligible for parole in 78,000.

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  15. I just wanted to add the damn quote already by ReverendLoki · · Score: 5, Funny

    Peter: "That virus you're always talking about, right? The one that could, uh, rip off the company for a bunch of money."
    Michael: "Yeah, what about it?"
    Peter: "Well, how does it work?"
    Michael: "It's pretty brilliant. What it does is, every time there's a bank transaction where interest is competed, you know, thousands a day, the computer ends up with these fractions of acent, which it usually rounds off. What this does is, it takes those little remainders and puts it into an account."
    Peter: "This sounds familiar."
    Michael: "Yeah, they did it in Superman III."
    Peter: "Right."
    Michael: "Yeah. Underrated movie, actually. And then there were a bunch of hackers, did it in the '70s as well. One of them got busted."
    Peter: "Well, so they check for this now."
    Michael: "No, here's the thing. Initech's so backed up with all the software we're updating for the year 2000, they'd never notice."
    Peter: "You're right. And even if they wanted to, they couldn't check all that code."
    Michael: "Thumbs up their asses. Thumbs up their asses."

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    1. Re:I just wanted to add the damn quote already by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 5, Funny

      Peter Gibbons: I can't believe what a bunch of nerds we are. We're looking up "money laundering" in a dictionary.

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  16. Re:How many bank accounts did he have? by saddino · · Score: 4, Funny

    It makes no sense at all.

    It sounds like it made a lot of cents.

  17. Well whaddaya know... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Funny
    This kind of attack hardly an invention of the movies. The salami attack has been around for a long time.

    Huh. Learned something new - thanks! I always thought Salami Attack was a bad 80s porn movie...

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    1. Re:Well whaddaya know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Have you seen any /good/ porn movie, like, ever?

    2. Re:Well whaddaya know... by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

      >> Salami Attack was a bad 80s porn movie...

      Yes, but it was better than Superman 3.

    3. Re:Well whaddaya know... by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2, Funny

      You MUST be new here.

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  18. I could put Strychnine in the Guacamole... by tyrione · · Score: 2, Funny

    if I truly wanted to...

  19. Re:Superman 3? by owlnation · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, but I'm sure someone can still claim PRYOR art.

  20. Re:Superman 3? by Sneftel · · Score: 3, Funny

    But IBM doesn't use 32x drives. And therefore I am utterly baffled by the meaning of your comment.

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  21. Re:I've always wondered by somersault · · Score: 5, Funny

    IANOC I am not on crack?
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  22. Re:Pound you in the ass prison... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So? You banged Lundbergh!

  23. "Hacker" not "Cracker"! by ivan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

    In this case, he's a hacker using the Slashdot/ESR definition, instead of the typical everyday definition. People around here should be excited.

    1. Re:"Hacker" not "Cracker"! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yay! One of our own is getting litigated! Woohoo!

  24. Re:Pound you in the ass prison... by smaerd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, well... at least I didn't fuck Lumberg.

  25. Re:Submitter gets it wrong by MaXMC · · Score: 4, Funny

    You read the article? WTF?

  26. Re:Superman 3? by oodaloop · · Score: 2, Funny

    Underrated movie, actually.

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  27. Re:He stole my idea! by sootman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Favorite line from Night Court:
    Defense attorney: "You had a gun?"
    Crook: (sheepishly) "Just a little one."
    District attorney: "The term is sawed-off."

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  28. Re:How did he do it? by Firehed · · Score: 2, Funny

    Indeed. Now just do it 100,000 more times and you'll be fighting the man with the soap.

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  29. Re:Superman 3? by Intron · · Score: 3, Funny

    That explains why I've been losing money counterfeiting pennies!

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  30. Re:oh wait.... (Oblig. XKCD) by Lord+of+Hyphens · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now that Snopes has come out on the field, this XKCD is obligatory.

    Do you smell that? It's the karma burning.

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