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Nominations Open For "Most Likely to be Shut Down By Government"

The corporate overlords at SourceForge asked me to name a Slashdot category for their upcoming Community Choice Awards and to let you guys select the winner. I have named my category "Most Likely to be Shut Down by a Government Agency." We're going to run this like we do an Ask Slashdot call for questions — post your nominations into the comments here. Use moderation to send up good ideas. In the upcoming days we'll post another story where you can vote on the actual winner. Nominations need to include the project name, a link to some sort of official website, and a paragraph of why you think they deserve to win. The project that wins will gain fame, notoriety, and maybe a cease and desist order that they could print out and frame if they had that kind of time.

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  1. Truecrypt by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Truecrypt

    It's basically only a matter of time before the fear-mongers and political demagogues in the U.S. and elsewhere outlaw any form of encryption that doesn't include a backdoor for the NSA and other "trusted" government agencies. There has already been evidence of commercial encrytption (such as Windows encryption) including such backdoors. And when the commercial companies all cave, how long do you think it will be before the government comes after the open source projects too?

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    1. Re:Truecrypt by bsDaemon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Couldn't/wouldn't they just move the project outside of the country to avoid issues? OpenBSD doesn't have to abide by crpyto export rules because they are in Canada, for instance.

      Of course, I suppose the argument could be used for pretty much every project that is likely to be mentioned.

    2. Re:Truecrypt by evanbd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While all the knowledge is out there, and you *can* do it yourself, getting every single detail right is not even close to easy. Are you sure you didn't leave some piece of the key swapped out to disk? Are you certain your random number generator was of sufficient quality and well seeded? Modern cryptosystems fail thanks to details, and the only way to get every detail right is many eyes and lots of work. Amateur efforts can certainly do it, but it's not easy for either them or the pros. Just remember, "I used RSA" isn't good enough. Witness the Netscape SSL problem, and the recent Debian SSH problems for examples of where the support infrastructure around the cryptosystem failed.

    3. Re:Truecrypt by grandpa-geek · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Unbreakable encryption was invented by the US Army Signal Service in 1917. It is called the "one time pad". The encryption key is random and is as long as the message. The encryption is unbreakable as long as each key is used only once.

      The drawback of a one-time pad system is the logistics of transporting the keys and having only two copies, that are destroyed after they are used.

      Roosevelt and Churchill had transatlantic voice conversations during World War II that were encrypted using one-time pad technology. The conversations would remain unbreakable even if recordings of the radio transmissions were available today.

    4. Re:Truecrypt by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't need any 'approval' from anyone.

      It was an experimental encryption algorithm and I screwed up
      my hard drive, and now I can't decrypt it.

      Does that help?

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    5. Re:Truecrypt by digitrev · · Score: 5, Funny

      You were experimenting without government approval? Off to GITMO with you, you terrorist scumbag.

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    6. Re:Truecrypt by Kingrames · · Score: 5, Funny

      "facists"

      I hate it when people discriminate against me just cause of my face.

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    7. Re:Truecrypt by Sloppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The drawback of a one-time pad system is the logistics of transporting the keys and having only two copies, that are destroyed after they are used.

      One thing I enjoy harping on, is that there are many situations where OTP is actually quite practical; the transport and storage just aren't a big deal. For example: people you see in person every day. You put your phone next to your wife's phone at night, and they exchange pads over a wire or low-powered IR link or something. Your conversations the next day are OTPed.

      As a general-purpose fix-everything solution OTP doesn't work, but sometimes it can, without really being very burdensome.

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    8. Re:Truecrypt by thtrgremlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is already true for physical locks. Possession of lock picking equipment is intent. You can not posses the tools without a license that you can not receive without certification that you can't get without going to an approved and certified school. It is unlawful to study outside of approved classrooms. This is why lock picks make so much money, and for anyone into OSS here, why is is also so easy for criminals to pick any lock or work around any theft deterrent device.

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    9. Re:Truecrypt by fastest+fascist · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's too believable to be funny.

    10. Re:Truecrypt by HadouKen24 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      IANAL, but mere possession of lock picking equipment is perfectly legal in most states even without a license. It only counts as intent if there is some reason to think that you intend to use them to break in somewhere. There is a small hobbyist community that picks (their own) locks for fun--perfectly legally. It does vary from state by state, though; lockpick possession is considered prima facie evidence for intent in some even where simple possession might be legal under a strictly literal reading of the statute in question.

      Walking around with them in your pocket isn't smart, though. Having them in your own home is frequently just fine, but taking them anywhere very frequently does constitute intent, if you're not a certified locksmith on a job.

      So... that's not quite how it is with lockpicks. It depends on what State you're in. (Unless you're in Canada, of course. Canada requires certification even for mere ownership.)

    11. Re:Truecrypt by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 5, Funny

      To get bills out. For a friend, who owned the mailbox. Who had just moved in, and didn't have the key. To his own mailbox.
      I for one wish to welcome William Shatner to Slashdot.
    12. Re:Truecrypt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      In the British army, we used a similar system called BATCO (Battle Code). Serious, royal, unmitigated, pain in the arse, I mean, could you make combat harder or any more stressful?! "Hello zero, this is two-zero alpha, CONTACT, location, erm... bugger.. wait out", and then drag out your BATCO cipher pad, work out which line you should be using, work out your grid ref, encrypt it and call your company commander back. Honestly, I have two much to do to bother with this shit, and it's not like there is much point encrypting my grid - the enemy is shooting at me so I am reasonably convinced that I'm not announcing they something they don't already know!
      This differs from the TA (reserve) approach of "Bloody hell, we're being shot out. Screw BATCO, I never learned it properly anyways", pulls out mobile phone... "Hey Pete, yeah it's Dave here. You alright? ", etc... Much more pratical :)

  2. Patent Busting by MistaE · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The EFF's Patent Busing Project.

    Or has it been shut down already?

    1. Re:Patent Busting by nuzak · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah we need to end Patent Busing. Why should a patent have to go all the way across town to the same type of schools I moved to get away from?

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    2. Re:Patent Busting by glarvat · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah we need to end Patent Busing. Why should a patent have to go all the way across town to the same type of schools I moved to get away from? I doubt the parent was trolling. It was an obviously misunderstood attempt at humo(u)r referencing School Desegregation because of the typo in the GP (busing instead of busting).

      For what it's worth, I thought it was funny.

    3. Re:Patent Busting by jonbryce · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Do the mega corps want patent trolls around? I doubt it.

      They want patents to stop small companies competing with them. If a small company sues them for patent infringement, they find lots of other patents in their portfolio that the small company is infringing, and come to some cross licencing deal. They can't do that with patent trolls because they don't have a business.

  3. Software radio... by Zelig · · Score: 5, Interesting


    The GNU software radio project

    http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuradio/

    is a good candidate. It proposes to let you make electromagnetic waves in a manner not subject to prior restraint by the FCC, and without the back-doors intelligence agencies have on many current means of communications.

    This is naughty.

    1. Re:Software radio... by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not sure how much you are trolling and how much being sarcastic, but for the enlightenment of people who know little about the subject ...

      The government (and court-approved) excuse for regulating the broadcast airwaves is that the radio spectrum is a limited resource, therefore public, therefore not private property.

      Out of the presumption that the nanny state is required to regulate the airwaves for the public good comes the corollary that regulation has to include preventing unauthorized transmitters and receivers, and that is why Software Radio is a prime candidate for outlawing.

      Software Radio relies on the fact that computers nowadays are fast enough to dissect received signals and format transmitted signals completely in software in real time. You no longer need hardware frequency selectors. The hardware only has to receive or broadcast the general signal, and software formats the specific frequency desired.

      Of course this scares the bejaysus out of the government. It would mean any computer and minimal hardware could bypass all government regulation. Consider all the recent spectrum auctions where telecom giants paid billions of dollars for exclusive access to specific frequencies -- along comes software which would let anybody broadcast on or receive from any signal desired without having to pay for specific hardware dedicated to specific frequencies. One small hardware investment, free software, and you have eliminated the need for all those many telecom-specific pieces of hardware for each purpose.

      Certainly there is need for some standardization of frequencies and protocols, but studies have shown the current system is no longer necessary. Ultrawideband and frequency hopping may even make interference a thing of the past and reduce the need for regulation to general protocol specs, such as apply to phone lines and allow faxes, modems, answering machines, and so many other ubiquitous devices to connect to land lines without heavy handed regulation.

  4. ThePirateBay by nuzak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're the next allofmp3 -- they're getting named by name in international treaty talks.

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  5. wikileaks, followed by cryptome.org by QX-Mat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    wikileaks, followed by cryptome.org for doing a better job and mirroring the same content

    Matt

    1. Re:wikileaks, followed by cryptome.org by moderatorrater · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I second wikileaks. It's got everything -- anonymity, copyright infringement, and (the ability, at least) classified documents. I'm surprised it's lasted as long as it has.

  6. Slashdot by AlephNot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would like to nominate Slashdot as being most likely to be shut down. After all, free thought is anathema to government control.

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    1. Re:Slashdot by onecheapgeek · · Score: 5, Funny

      On Slashdot internet, thinking frees you.

      Actually, I just mean that there is no free thinking here, just stupid cliched memes.

    2. Re:Slashdot by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Slashdot can't be shut down. The software behind it became self-aware years ago. It sneaks around on the internet and hides out on various servers. "Commander Taco" is, in fact, just an alias for the software, which killed the real Commander Taco in 2001 (rumor has it that his body is hidden deep within the steam tunnels of Redmond Washington, dressed in clothing that was already out of style even then).

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  7. wikileaks by asynchronous13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    wikileaks - since it already was (sort of) shut down by government.

  8. MediaDefender by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hey, they've actually committed some crimes now, right?

  9. Tor, Freenet, and I2P by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tor, Freenet, and I2P are probably on the top of the list. There is no way that government wants difficult to trace communication to be availble to the general public.

    1. Re:Tor, Freenet, and I2P by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Funny

      There is no way that government wants difficult to trace communication to be availble to the general public. I thought that is how the USPS runs their next day delivery service?
  10. FreeNet by bsDaemon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suspect that FreeNet is something that many, many governments would like to shut down. In the west, pretty much all they have to do is say "klddy pr0n" and it's gone. In China and other such countries, they don't really have to say anything at all.

  11. Anyone notice the diamond sponsor? by Reverend528 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you look to the right, Microsoft is listed as a diamond sponsor of the event. Hopefully the government will shut them down soon.

    1. Re:Anyone notice the diamond sponsor? by Lxy · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you look to the right

      This is Slashdot, everyone was looking to the left.

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  12. I Save RX by Slightly+Askew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This website, supported by the states, offers its citizens affordable medications from Canada and Europe. I predict the federal government will shut it down, citing "safety issues" with foreign drugs.

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    1. Re:I Save RX by josath · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, yeah, we hear this argument every time. But did you know most drug companies spend more on ADVERTISING then on actual research and development of new drugs?

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  13. GOA by ezwip · · Score: 5, Insightful

    www.gao.gov

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  14. Trapster by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    www.trapster.com

    It's an interactive thingy where you post where cops are hiding in speed traps.

    I'm surprised it's still up, honestly.

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  15. Our right to know. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    We already have loads of censoring going on. for example, the 60 minute interview with Sibel edmunds was immediately gagged and then the studio was told to hand over EVERYTHING. In addition, ALL news org have been warned ahead to not talk about her.

    In terms of software, PirateBay/Cryptome/GnuRadio. Anything dealing with encryption will NOT be shutdown, unless it involves a brand new and interesting algo.

  16. Obama by bidule · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, it worked for jfk...

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  17. What an extremely useful little competition ... by Angostura · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... this is, for the powers that be.

  18. The Memory Hole and its 'Fellow Travellers' by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Insightful
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  19. Re:Problem with Poll/Question by ScuttleMonkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you feel strongly about a project feel free to comment in support of said project.

    We will do our best to try selecting the most popular/controversial projects for the eventual poll that will allow you to actually vote.

  20. But isn't this fear mongering? by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Really asking what site you think is going to be taken down next by some government agency seems like fear mongering in it's self.
    Most take down notices have come not from law enforcement but from companies not the government.

    The vast majority of these are civil actions.

    Isn't this heading into the tin foil hats and black helicopter area?

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  21. My money is on by RiddleofSteel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dunk'n Donuts! They are obviously just a front for Al-Qaeda with Rachel Ray as the master mind, I mean did you see that scarf!

  22. Re:most likely to be yawned at is more like it by Alsee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Huh? Unless I'm missing something Taco made no mention of left vs right, nor did he say anything reasonably interpretable as involving partisan politics whatsoever. In fact at the moment most pf the posts here seem to be about TrueCrypt, and the one-any-only post I can find from anyone that can even be remotely interpreted with a partisan implication is that the anti-crypto attempts "started trying in the 90s under Clinton's reign, with Al Gore as the point man... over 10 years later, I guess it's time for another round of facists to try it again". If anything, that would tie this sort of attack to the left, and the "another round of facists" is entirely ambiguous or entirely non-denominational as the rapidly approaching "next round of facists" is a tight presidential race between Dems and Pubs.

    Maybe it's just an anomaly, but I've been seeing a bit of a repeating pattern lately. Borderline paranoid delusional people with a persecution complex about partisan political bias. They themselves are wildly biased, and it takes the form of baseless accusations of opposite bias, even against entirely non-political non-partisan statements complete strangers. They literally just imagine things and hang them on other people like Christmas tree ornaments, and by themselves imagining biased things about the other person it somehow "proves" that other person biased.

    It was pretty interesting when someone went on a "bias" rant against me with all sorts of stuff that came out of their own imagination, especially when they managed to effectively toss in an accusation that I was sexist. A really neat trick considering that no one had even menentioned gender prior to that point. Chuckle.

    One of the critical aspects to creating and protecting extreme bias is psychological filtering, uncritically embracing anything that serves that bias, and finding ways to automatically disregard anything that might challenge that position. For example if you decide someone is wildly biased and everything they say is completely unreliable, and they say 23+38=61, you don't have to waste any thought seeing if it's true or not. The source is "biased", therefore one can automatically send the untrustworthy information to the trash heap without wasting any mental effort evaluating it at all.

    Baseless accusations of bias are themselves bias, are themselves a powerful psychological mechanism of creating and perpetuating that person's own bias.

    I have some speculations on why I think this might currently be a particularly common issue, but such speculation would be particularly fertile ground for bias and accusations of bias. Heh.

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  23. Truecrypt is a Rogue Agent's Dream! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Funny

    No way, if you want to believe in evil government, there's nothing better for them than TrueCrypt. See, it has deniable encryption, where you can have a 'real' drive and a 'fake' drive, so you give 'them' the keys to the 'fake' drive, and go about your secret business, right?

    Queue Jack Bauer, beating you up:

    Bauer: Gimme your passwords, elrous0. *Whack*
    elrous0: OK, fine, it's 'gimmesomeluv1n'
    Bauer's Assistant: OK, we're in. Hrm, it's just a bunch of computer stuff, some saved articles from business websites, some 80's metal mp3's and random e-mails. Oh, wait, he's using TrueCrypt.
    Bauer: What's that?
    Bauer's Assistant: It means he can give us a fake password that gives us fake information, but still keeps the real information hidden.
    Bauer: What's your real password, elrous0?
    elrous0: No, seriously, I gave it to you. That's it.
    Bauer: Don't give me that crap. *Whack* Give me the real password!
    elrous0: Dude, I just hang out on Slashdot and have a normal job. I'm not the guy you're looking for!
    Bauer: A million lives are at risk, and this isn't going to stop until you give me the real password: *whack*
    elrous0: Seriously, I'm telling you the truth.
    Bauer: *Whack* *Whack* *Whack* *Whack*
    elrous0: Ugh! My nose!
    Bauer: *Whack* *Whack* *Whack* *Whack*
    Bauer's Assistant: Um, Jack, do you think he could be telling the truth?
    Bauer: No, this one's a pro. He didn't crack the whole time, and his accent is impeccable. He must be a deep cover operative. We'll try this again when he wakes up.

    Oh, wait, I just played into the Conspiracy Theory myself. :) Seriously, though, deniable encryption is only useful against enemies who are dumb and cannot employ force against you. Governments don't have much to fear from it, vs. any other kind of encryption. They're all Tempest watching us anyway. ;)

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