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Time Warner Cable Tries Metering Internet Use

As rumored a couple of months back, Time Warner is starting a trial of metered Internet access. "On Thursday, new Time Warner Cable Internet subscribers in Beaumont, Texas, will have monthly allowances for the amount of data they upload and download. Those who go over will be charged $1 per gigabyte... [T]iers will range from $29.95 a month for... 768 kilobits per second and a 5-gigabyte monthly cap to $54.90 per month for... 15 megabits per second and a 40-gigabyte cap. Those prices cover the Internet portion of subscription bundles that include video or phone services. Both downloads and uploads will count toward the monthly cap."

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  1. Re:isn't this a breach of contract? by risinganger · · Score: 5, Informative

    No it isn't (yet). You obviously didn't read the short article as it states this trial is only running with new subscribers and not existing ones.

  2. Re:Welcome to our world by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Informative

    I also download the occasional Linux distro, and a Fedora or Windows update can be over 200 MB

    In Australia the plans are usually for bandwidth/month, so you pay according to line speed, GB/month etc, but it's fairly uncommon (except for wireless broadband) to be charged for excess usage (they just drop the speed to something painful like 64kbps).

    Many of the ISP's have unmetered content, such as local mirrors for major linux distro's, file repositories and some entertainment related stuff. So, for example, all the Ubuntu updates for our computers are not metered - in some circumstances that's VERY useful (eg: an office with 10 computers).

    But Australia's internet is a horrible state of affairs generally - just putting in our experience here FWIW.

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  3. Re:Welcome to our world by OneSeven · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some Australian ISP's used to let users elect to have either the painful throttling you describe, or to be charged extra for excess usage. These days most (all?) just do the throttling - most likely to try to get users to upgrade to more expensive plans. I'm currently on 64k thanks to exceeding my allowance for the month, and 'painful' barely describes it. I'd happily pay $10 extra for another few more GB this month, but certainly don't want to lock myself into a higher plan, as most months I won't be using as much.

    Also - if you've got 10 machines running the same OS, wouldn't it be worth setting up an internal mirror / patch distribution server so you only need to pull the data down your internet pipe once?

  4. Re:Welcome to our world by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uh, yeah. Except that Time Warner isn't likely to do things like host local mirrors for major Linux distros. As it stands now, if you run Linux, you are. officially at least, unsupported as they only officially support Windows and Macintosh. And they only added official Macintosh support in like 2001 or 2002 -- before that it was just Windows.

  5. Caching proxy server a better solution by Mathinker · · Score: 3, Informative

    > wouldn't it be worth setting up an internal mirror / patch distribution
    > server so you only need to pull the data down your internet pipe once?

    To mirror the entire Ubuntu update repository would probably be pretty wasteful unless his office is quite extraordinary. And just mirroring the files needed by one computer will not necessarily be OK for all the other ones, unless he's very careful to install packages only on an office-wide basis. I think a better solution for him would be to use a proxy (like Squid) to cache the update files.

  6. Re:Welcome to our world by mrbluze · · Score: 2, Informative

    As it stands now, if you run Linux, you are. officially at least, unsupported as they only officially support Windows and Macintosh.

    But honestly, who cares about that. Nowadays the support of the ISP effectively ends at the router, if they supplied it (or it's a model they support). I know AOL had stupid software you had to install etc., but that's not the case in the vast majority.

    Back in the days of dial-up internet where you had to set up your modem, your winsock application, proxies, etc...etc.. they had experts who knew how to do things for a specific OS (too bad if you had mac in those days - go to a apple-specific ISP!), but now it's not really relevant.

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  7. Holding out on us by stewbacca · · Score: 5, Informative

    I talked to a TimeWarner rep when I lived in San Antonio last summer and he told me that they've had the infrastructure for 15mbps connections in place for a year or two, but cap the speeds between 5-10 on purpose. The "purpose", I see now, is that they want to try and milk every penny out of us for something that wouldn't cost them any more to deliver. I imagine it actually costs them money to cap our bandwidth anyway, so this is pretty dumb...especially now that I live in a market with another major provider (AT&T) for competition.

  8. Re:VOD? by bishiraver · · Score: 5, Informative

    At least (for now) most people have several ISP's to choose from.
    Bzzt. Wrong. Most areas have local-government-mandated sole cable ISPs. Ie, this neighborhood is given to TWC, this neighborhood is given to Cablevision, this neighborhood is given to comcast. Sometimes it's more like towns instead of neighborhoods, but the concept remains the same. Your basic choice is: Cable for decent speeds, DSL for shitty speeds. And if you're very, very lucky you can opt for FiOS.
  9. Re:A little unfair hosters vs providers by devman · · Score: 4, Informative

    All the equipment is consolidated in a server farm where ever your hosting company is, so they buy bulk bandwidth and resell it to you cheaply. With residential services customers are spread out and require last mile infrastructure.

  10. Re:Welcome to our world by Daengbo · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you install AptZeroConf on every machine, then you won't have to any work at all -- it's all handled transparently.

  11. Re:Welcome to our world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    ISPs tried basing billing periods off the calendar month and quickly realised it was a terrible, terrible idea.

    have you ever tried to use the internet when absolutely everyone using your isp is trying to wring that last little bit of quota out for the month? ("who cares if you get throttled 1 day from the end"). calculating billing periods based on sign-up dates spreads the load over the whole month, instead of having 2-3 days when the internet is unusable

  12. Re:Cancel by antdude · · Score: 2, Informative

    Or back to dial-up (3 KB/sec at most for me with compressed files). I have no other affordable broadband options in my area. DSL is too far (20K ft. from CO). Forget satellite Internet services (slow, capped, and expensive). No local WISP services. IDSL/ISDN is too slow and expensive (100+ bucks a month??!?!) :(

    Would you like to pay for a T1 connection for me? I think not.

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  13. Hue and Cry by wreave · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hue_and_cry In common law, a hue and cry (Latin, hutesium et clamor, "a horn and shouting") was a process by which bystanders were summoned to assist in the apprehension of a criminal who had been witnessed in the act of committing a crime. ------------ On the OT, it makes sense to charge for BW used. That's how the ISPs typically have to pay for it. The unlimited model only works when overall usage is low. Personally, I am a frequent but not high-bandwidth user, and would prefer to pay a rate that reflects my actual usage instead of subsidizing all the torrent uploaders. It seems to me that simply charging for BW utilization would solve the file-sharing problem overnight.