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Have Mathematics Exams Become Easier?

Coryoth writes "The BBC is reporting on a recent study in the UK that found that the difficulty of high school level math exams has declined. The study looked at mathematics from 1951 through to the present and found that, after remaining roughly constant through the 1970s and 1980s, the difficulty of high school math exams dropped precipitously starting in the early 1990s. A comparison of exams is provided in the appendix of the study. Are other countries, such as the US, noticing a similar decline in mathematics standards?" Readers with kids in school right now may have the best perspective on changes in both teaching and testing methods -- what have you noticed?

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  1. First post! by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 4, Funny

    They had to lower the standards because the kids today can't handle simple math.

    1. Re:First post! by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 5, Funny

      They had to lower the standards because the kids today can't handle simple math. Does that include concepts like, "what 'first' means?"
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    2. Re:First post! by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oops, posting 1 minute after the actual first post is waaay too subtle for me. Sorry for being an idiot.

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    3. Re:First post! by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't bruise his self esteem you brute.
      Here on /. in the 21st century, every post is first post.

  2. Re:Pay teachers more by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why would somebody who has the ability to earn more than four times the national average wage go into a job that earns less than the average wage? Yep, that's damn sure one of the big reasons I'm not interested in being a teacher once I finish my graduate degree. If I wanted to deal with children telling me what to do and get paid peanuts for it I'd go back to software development. ;)
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  3. Re:General request! by hostyle · · Score: 5, Funny
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  4. Re:Finally by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

    Tell me about it. It's pathetic how easy math exams are these days. I mean, I really struggled in math in the second grade, and I was lucky to get average grades. Imagine my surprise when I decided to take my son's 2nd grade math test, and I got an almost perfect score! It was so easy! Clearly these kids are being spoiled by lower expectations.

  5. Then/Now by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then: Sally is twice as old as Suzy. Three years from now, the sum of their ages will be 42. How old is Sally?

    Now: Chloe has 7 apples. How many apples does Chloe have?

    Tomorrow: Write the number 5.

    1. Re:Then/Now by macbuzz01 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Then: 42 - 6 = 36, 36 / 3 = 12, Sally is 24 Now: Type 7 into my TI 83, hit enter, display is 7, so...*changes song on my iPod while texting bff across the room*...the answer is 9. Tomorrow: *Wonder if Sally Suzy and Chloe would dig me cuz I'm into older chicks and there is an apple on my phone*...*did my Ritalin pump shut off cuz I can't remember what a five looks like*

    2. Re:Then/Now by digitalhermit · · Score: 2, Funny

      Solving then and now:
      10 years ago:
      (x + 3) + (2x + 3) = 42, solve for x

      5 years ago:
      x = 1, y = 2 -> 1 + 3 + 2 + 3 = 42
      x = 2, y = 4 -> 2 + 3 + 4 + 3 = 42
        (repeat until the equation is true_

      Now:
      google
      "how old is sally"
      Answer:
      Sally is an 18yr old brunette who was a naughty girl at school.

  6. Re:Blame? Look at the No Child Left Behind Act by StormReaver · · Score: 2, Funny

    "...the district is forcing them to dumb down the tests..."

    We in the U.S. did the same thing to the Presidency eight years ago, and have gotten similar results.

  7. Back on subject... by LinuxGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    9 out of 7 math students agree, standards have not been dropped!

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  8. Re:General request! by Kohath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Could everyone put their country in the comment, if applicable? It saves people arguing back-and-forth about the same point, when both are correct for their own country and experiences, but on opposite sides of the world Good idea. And no, we won't be doing that.
  9. USA Math 1950 - 2008 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Examples of the evolution in teaching math since the 1950s.

    1. Teaching Math In 1950:

    A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
    is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit?

    2. Teaching Math In 1960:

    A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
    is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?

    3. Teaching Math In 1970:

    A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production
    is $80. Did he make a profit?

    4. Teaching Math In 1980:

    A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is
    $80 and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.

    5. Teaching Math In 1990:

    A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and
    inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the
    preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a
    profit of $20.

    What do you think of this way of making a living?

    Topic for class participation after answering the question:
    How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes?
    (There are no wrong answers.)

    6. Teaching Math In 2008:
    Un maderero vende un camión de madera de construcción para $100. Su
    coste de producción es $80. Cuántos de su familia pueden usted alimentar
    desde los $20 beneficios?

  10. Re:Mensa and testing... by delibes · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mensa won't take SATs from later than 1/31/94 as an indication of your IQ. That says something about changing test difficulty... 1, 31, 94, ?
    x(n) = [3 * x(n-1)] + x(n-2) , where n>3
    So it's 313 next, right? Next question please :)
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  11. Re:Pay teachers more by geobeck · · Score: 2, Funny

    Other than the 10 weeks or so off in the summer, teachers don't really work that little. Most teachers I've known (including mine) put in around 10-12 hours per day and a good chunk on the weekends. Okay, any good teacher.

    Been there, done that, got the headache from watching the less-than-good teachers get the same rewards while being in school for only as much time as the kids. So I left, and years later I'm an environmental manager, trying to convince a bunch of longshoremen not to throw garbage in the recycling bins and dealing with unresponsive management.

    The more things change...

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  12. Re:General request! by obender · · Score: 2, Funny

    All your matematica are belong to us!

  13. Re:Pay teachers more by bjorniac · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yep, and I'd love an olympic 100m sprinter's job where you work for 10 seconds every four years.

  14. Oblig Joke by Cytric · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can't believe nobody included the obligatory joke on this. Also, my first post on slashdot :)

    Teaching Math in the 1950's:

            A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit ?

    Teaching Math in the 1960's:

            A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price, or $80. What is his profit?

    Teaching Math in the 1970's:

            A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80. Did he make a profit?

    Teaching Math in the 1980's:

            A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80 and his profit is $20. Underline the number 20.

    Teaching Math in the 1990's:

            A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20. What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers, and if you feel like crying, it's ok. )

    Teaching Math in the 2000's:

            Un hachero vende una carretada de maderapara $100. El costo de la producciones es $80. Cuanto dinero ha hecho?

  15. Algebra I (US, 1968-69) by sensei+moreh · · Score: 3, Funny
    My favorite word problem from Algebra I - we had to write an equation relating their ages:

    Mary is twice as old as Jane was when Mary was as old as Jane is now. FWIW, I believe the textbook we used was first published in the early 1960s
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  16. Amateurs by sjbe · · Score: 3, Funny

    Er, you probably won't get paid. Olympic is for amateurs. The 1980's called. They want their rules back.
  17. Re:Pay teachers more by pipingguy · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...the complete and utter dependance on calculators, especially those fancy, programmable Texas Instruments ones...

    I'm even dumber than that, as I use an HP with RPN! It's smarter than I am (not that that's a great accomplishment).

  18. Re:Pay teachers more by aproposofwhat · · Score: 2, Funny

    But I never wanted to be an accountant - I wanted to be a lion tamer!

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