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35 Articles of Impeachment Introduced Against Bush
vsync64 writes "Last night, Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) spent 4 hours reading into the Congressional Record 35 articles of impeachment against George W. Bush. Interestingly, those articles (63-page PDF via Coral CDN) include not just complaints about signing statements and the war in Iraq, but also charges that the President "Sp[ied] on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment,' 'Direct[ed] Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens,' and 'Tamper[ed] with Free and Fair Elections.' These are issues near and dear to the hearts of many here, so it's worth discussing. What little mainstream media coverage there is tends to be brief (USA Today, CBS News, UPI, AP, Reuters)." The (Democratic) House leadership has said that the idea of impeachment is "off the table." The Judiciary Committee has not acted on articles of impeachment against Vice President Cheney introduced by Kucinich a year ago.
Oh yeah, as if the President has time to personally spy on anyone is pretty laughable as well.
(Sweet Jebbus on a stick, I hear this from so many people way too often from my conservative hometown. I dunno where American morality is going these days, but it's definitely in a downhill direction.)
If you had a family member in Iraq, and an impeachment led to a withdrawal of troops, would it have real benefit then?
Pardon the sarcasm, but if we had packed up years ago, how long would it have taken to have the next 9/11 with their new nuke program funded by the high price we pay for oil. Think about it. Who is supplying the crude. Did the cost to pump it really skyrocket? Follow the money. Just what do you think they are spending the money on?
Think along the lines of building a nuke program (look next door to Iran) and the hate to the infidels of Istral and the US. Think targets...
Cutting and running and leaving them alone with the pile of money is not someting I am willing to not pay attention to. We are fighting an arms race where we are buying their military build up everytime we fill up.
We want to bring our truops home safe and sound? There is nothing safe or sound in this in the long run. They will be back and boy are they pissed.
The domestic spying thing is just and extension of keeping an eye on the danger instead of pretending it isn't there till after the domesting war bombs go off.
I would rather they keep the war overseas instead of letting it start here in my yard.
For anyone who think the Oil tax is a good idea, don't forget this is a world economy. If the price to sell in the US market goes up, it's easy to cut shipments. Do research on the 1970's. I lived it. Making a trip back from Idaho to Central Oregon ran me through several small towns in a row all with NO GAS. I parked stranded in Shaniko (officaly a ghost town) as the other option was to die on the highway unable to make it to the next town. I literally waited at the station for the truck to arrive.
Here is info on this delightful town.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=N&tab=lw&q=Shaniko+OR
We want to do this again why?
The truth shall set you free!
I invite you to attempt to live in Singapore. Its ILLEGAL to chew gum there!
That's a lie. I've been to Singapore. It's perfectly legal to chew gum there. When's the last time you were there?
Learn to love Alaska
I am so sick of this. Clinton LIED under oath in a federal court after taking an oath to tell the truth. He lied ABOUT sex. I love how for some people it is just about sex...no big deal.
The lie *was* just about sex. The whole thing was a farce. He shouldn't have lied, no question, but seriously, its not like he lied to get the country into a war, or lied about tampering with elections... he lied about whether he'd had oral sex. He should never have been in a federal court being asked those questions in the first place.
Anyone else would have been buried in jail for contempt.
Most people actually don't go to jail for perjury. Fines are common.
he paid a fine ($10,000.00 US?)
90,000 US.
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/07/29/clinton.contempt/
If I was issued a subpoena, then lied, I would either be charged with perjury and jailed or charged with contempt and jailed.
Perjury is often punished with a Fine. Look it up. And light sentences (not that 90k is that light) is common when the item lied about was not terribly significant, the level of harm done by it, etc...
I would have more respect for Bill Clinton if he had just said "Yeah I fucked her, what of it?"
Or maybe should have just said "I don't recall." Or maybe he should have invoked executive priviledge over national security? Those seem to work pretty well when you don't want to answer a federal court.
If ever an article needed this tag...
20th century Marxism is not progress...
The war in Iraq is going well--in fact Baghdad is having a housing market boom.
Oh fucking goody!
My house is worth $50k less than it was in 2004 when I bought it, everything is more expensive on a weak dollar, I'm glad I now have the option to use public transportation to work because I'd be paying 2x as much as I did last year, I'm really glad I work in higher education due to the slow job market -- one of the few industries that doesn't get hit as hard during economic downturn, I'm thrilled at grain and rice prices and the fact that distributors are not permitting buyers to hoard it as the prices skyrocket while our National Grain Reserves fall on our humanitarian efforts abroad, and I'm really excited that we're still pumping billions upon billions of dollars into a country that's 1000s of miles away so that they can have a housing boom while we fucking suffer here.
While these worthless articles of impeachment are nothing more than words -- the same as those against Cheney -- and we're doing such great things for those in other countries (including bombing them with bombs purchased on credit we can't back for at least 25 years), I'm wondering when someone is going to bail the United States out.
What it says is that even the liberal press recognizes that Kucinich is a loon who should not be taken seriously.
Well, yes, thanks, I'll just take your word on all of that, instead of reading the Rockefeller report.
Seriously, who modded this troll "insightful"?
As opposed to a war of pacifism?
New rule: anyone who uses the phrase "war of aggression" automatically forfeits any right to comment on foreign policy in general, and war in particular.
Well, all I'm gonna say is that if you think Clinton deserved it, there's no way in hell you can say Bush doesn't. All Clinton did was lie. Yes, he lied under oath. But compared to what Bush did, that's nothing. It's like comparing telling your wife that dress doesn't make her look fat when it really does to Charles Manson.
Thank you, Slashdot, for modding this poster +1, Funny instead of taking him seriously as Digg or Reddit leftards would have.
Dennis Kucinich is an idiot. No, I don't mean that euphamistically. I mean he's an actual idiot. If you want such a measure to be taken seriously, get someone who's NOT an idiot to bring it forward.
Democrats in Congress have been the bane of just about every oil related bill that's come up for vote for the last 30 years. Alaskan exploration and drilling, offshore exploration and drilling, continental exploration and drilling, shale oil exploitation, coal gassification, all these have been shot down by 85-90% Democrats against, 85-90% Republican for. It's hard to be in the driver seat with regard to oil when you have to buy the bulk of it from autocrats in Venezuela, Russia, and Saudi Arabia.
Oh yeah, one more thing. Bush didn't lose a presidential election. Get over it.
Humm, if memory serves me correctly (and we are going back many years so I can not quote chapter and verse) we are not obligated to adhere to the Geneva or Hague conventions IF the combatants are from a regime or country that has not also signed onto sed conventions. Further, according to the Geneva conventions in order to be classified as a combatant and not a spy the individual must have a recognizable uniform distinguishing him/her from the civilian population. As these prisoners fall under the Geneva and Hague convention definition of SPY/Saboteur they can technically be shot on site if witness committing such acts. As I recall most if not all WERE captured in the act of activity engaging coalition troop. Additionally, These a-holes are not AMERICAN citizens and have no rights under the United States Constitution. They are also not on, nor have they been on US soil. Now as for the parent article. Let us just remember one thing. Denny BANKRUPTED the (at the time 6th? largest) city in the nation when he was the friggan mayor of it. The only reason that the friggan weasel is still in office is because the population of the city of Cleveland is too retarded to not elect the ass clown. (I can say this because I live there and have to live next to the damn mouth breathers) This is the same city that has one of the highest tax rates in the country and the Id10t's can't figure out why businesses are leaving and taking all the jobs so they continue to raise the taxes so that the criminals (yes there are murderers, theives and rapist actual convict on city counsel) that were elected (by sed mouth breathers) can give themselves raises. I do not agree with most of what has happened in the last 4 years (4 because I think the first 4 were fairly decent, at least compared to the first 4 of the purgerer)but given the rather lead choices the national conventions have given us I think it could be much much worse.
"...a civilian some of the time, a soldier part of the time and a patriot all of the time." -Brig. Gen. James Drain
Oh hell, just check out his voting profile here http://www.ontheissues.org/Dennis_Kucinich.htm
This guy is a touchy-feely leftist. And like all leftists, they tend to think more with the emotional part of the brain rather than the logical.
While I'm sure Dennis is a great guy to hang out with, he is simply dangerious on policies such as welfare, crime, and national security.
Life is not for the lazy.
WOW! First let me say that I sincerely apologize for getting my Hague articles mixed. As stated in my original statement it has been more than a few years. If you would please refere to Section IV Article 85 of the Hague convention (http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebART/110-20085?OpenDocument) "Sec. IV Art. 85. War-rebels are persons within an occupied territory who rise in arms against the occupying or conquering army, or against the authorities established by the same. If captured, they may suffer death, whether they rise singly, in small or large bands, and whether called upon to do so by their own, but expelled, government or not. They are not prisoners of war; nor are they if discovered and secured before their conspiracy has matured to an actual rising or armed violence." This article seems to make it clear that persons engaging in hostility against and occupying army are NOT subject to POW status. It also demonstrates that if found conspiring to engage in hostility, they are also, NOT POWs and can be killed at the time of capture/discovery. So the "fuck you and your saboteurs" was a bit uncalled for. As for my tirade concerning Denny, I am not sure how it is bigoted. The facts are the facts. While he was Mayor of Cleveland, He defaulted on loans that his administration secured. He runs for president so that he can keep his name in the local press for the purposes of his congressional campaign and providing a excuse to avoid congressional primary debates with candidates that want to work for the people. He has wasted time and taxpayer money with 2 failed presidential campaigns that did even come close being legitimate. And, oh yeah I love this one, He has seen alien space craft. As for my fellow Clevelanders...The people that, can not properly use a touch screen voting machine...The people that elected Mike White who literally "lost" a substantial part of the cities revenue (I wonder how he got that alpaca farm)....The people who claim racism when ever a criminal is killed with a weapon in their hand by the police defending themselves...The people who elected convicted felons into city counsel seats (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337072,00.html)... These facts are not arguable. The exist whether we want them to or not. I am not sure how that makes me a bigot, but I can tell you that YOUR hate seems to be a great deal greater than my own. Please also note, that I have not f-u'd once and still got my point across. To those moderators that modded you up I say F-U
"...a civilian some of the time, a soldier part of the time and a patriot all of the time." -Brig. Gen. James Drain
Just like the pointless Microsoft bashing that goes on around here, why exactly is this news? It's not even IT related. It's just flame bait for people with a liberal agenda. Think how many productive hours have been wasted already with 1000+ people posting and reading all this drivel.
No, I just don't pay much attention to assclowns who make unsubstantiated accusations. If you provide some credible and/or verifiable information to back up your blathering, then we can talk. Until then, you're only so much line-noise.
The convoluted logic of this astounds me. Have you ever considered running for office?