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Best Chair For Desktop Coding?

wifeoflurker writes "Can someone give me recommendations for a desk chair to give my husband as a Father's Day gift? He currently uses a cheap one he got from Office Max, but I want him to have a really comfortable one. He spends his life in this chair (coding and lurking on Slashdot). I don't have time to research good chairs on the internet today (I'm chasing my 10 month old around, and she seems to get into the most mischief when I'm staring at the computer screen), so I figured a few folks here might share their personal recommendations." Has there been any great progress in the state of the art (of sitting) since the last time readers sought recommendations for back-friendly chairs a few years back, or the perfect computer chair nearly a decade back? Is there even such a thing as a back-friendly chair, or should we all be in astronaut-style lounge workstations?

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  1. Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey honey, thanks for thinking of me, I really appreciate it!

    1. Re:Thanks by gustolove · · Score: 5, Funny

      But how many guys fit that description? The only reason I know I don't fit it is I'm not a dad. :-) Maybe your girlfriend is pregnant and this is her way of letting you know!
  2. Herman Miller Aeron... by HerculesMO · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know there are a lot of contenders in this arena -- and honestly, at the price it seems very high.

    But think about it -- you own a car that you like. You spend maybe what, an hour, or two a day in it? You spend maybe $400 for the car payment plus insurance and gas.

    And you sit in a chair for 5-7 hours a day. You should make a good investment for the sake of your back, your butt, and your comfort. I have the Aeron and the only quip I have with it, is that it doesn't match the height of my desk (which is actually a writing desk, incorrect height for a mouse/keyboard).

    I like the Aeron -- it has a lot of adjustments, it's built very solid, it has a good warranty and you can get them serviced a LOT of places (casters and such). It's NOT cheap, but refer to what I said earlier on why you SHOULD spend the money.

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    1. Re:Herman Miller Aeron... by trybywrench · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I have to second the Herman Miller Aeron. I finally bit the bullet and bought one and I've really noticed a difference with respect to fatigue. I would say I can write for about 2 more hours then usual with the Aeron.

      No one wants to invest in a good chair but you have to think about the fact that your chair is in use from the time you sit down at your computer to the time you get up. It's the most utilized piece of computer gear you have. A lot of people skimp on monitors too even though it's the second most utilized piece of hardware.

      A solid chair and a solid monitor then keyboard/mouse goes very very far in keeping you productive.

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    2. Re:Herman Miller Aeron... by Thelasko · · Score: 5, Informative

      I had an Aeron at a previous job. Making the switch to whatever this purple monstrosity I have now has been difficult. My favorite part about the Aeron is it allows airflow around your body.

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    3. Re:Herman Miller Aeron... by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      A solid chair and a solid monitor then keyboard/mouse goes very very far in keeping you productive.
      And then you visit slashdot, nullifying all your efforts.

    4. Re:Herman Miller Aeron... by CowboyNealOption · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How about $40 for a cheap chair and a $300 gift certificate to a good massage therapist?

    5. Re:Herman Miller Aeron... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ooh happy ending!

    6. Re:Herman Miller Aeron... by mellon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have an Aeron, and it's not bad, but there are too many adjustments that are done by friction, and I haven't ever been able to get it to stay in place properly when I get it set up properly. I finally gave up the arms as a bad job and took them off. But I still can't tilt the seat forward the right amount.

      The one thing the Aeron is great for is that it's a mesh, so you can sit on it when you get back from a bike ride without feeling like you're going to soak the padding with your manly sweat. This is the reason I haven't just spaced the thing.

      I hear that the new Aerons are better, but I haven't personally seen any evidence that this is true. So I would really check this out carefully before buying.

      And honestly, I'd run this by him. You're going to spend a lot of money to get him a good chair, and chairs are a very personal choice - what works for one person won't work for another. Also a lot of advice you get on ergonomics from chair stores isn't correct, so if you buy a chair based on that advice, you could wind up with a $500 albatross.

      What I would personally recommend is that you just tell him you want to get him a chair, and research it with him. If you don't have time, get him something else. This is a really nice idea for a gift, but it's not an easy one.

    7. Re:Herman Miller Aeron... by andyring · · Score: 4, Funny

      So in other words, when farting a lot, it disperses quicker?

    8. Re:Herman Miller Aeron... by Thelasko · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What I would personally recommend is that you just tell him you want to get him a chair, and research it with him. If you go this route, I would put a picture of an Aeron in a card and give it to him. Let him know that you'll buy it for him, if that's the chair he decides to get.

      I learned that trick from a buddy of mine who's mom would always get pissed off at the gifts family would buy her. She would want a stove, and they bought her a stove, but it wasn't the stove she wanted. Next year she wanted a dishwasher, so they gave her a picture of a dishwasher, and let her pick it out herself.
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    9. Re:Herman Miller Aeron... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...all it's employees... thry... monay... thay... furnature... knowlegable... Was the .com making a free online spelling and grammar check portal? If so, I think I know why it folded...
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  3. Swiss Ball! by polyp2000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    this might sound a little crazy but a pilates / swiss ball is the absolute daddy. Once you are used to it its really very comfortable, balancing is fairly easy and kind of forces you into the right posture.

    N.

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    1. Re:Swiss Ball! by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I found the kneeling chair. It looks like it would be really uncomfortable, and with no back support you would get tired, but something about it just puts your entire body in the right position.

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  4. You Married your Father? by MrSteveSD · · Score: 5, Funny

    Which country is this? :)

    1. Re:You Married your Father? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Austria?

      *crickets*

      What? Too soon?

  5. Well he knows now, announcing it on Slashdot by drcagn · · Score: 5, Funny

    To the guy who complained about his chair: your wife is getting you a new one!

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    1. Re:Well he knows now, announcing it on Slashdot by Fex303 · · Score: 5, Funny
      Well, that's great. I really wanted a new chair.

      It's just a little disturbing that I apparently have a wife and child I wasn't aware of.

  6. I would recommend...!?! by mseidl · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Hawaii Chair:

    http://www.skymall.com/shopping/detail.htm?pid=102518472&pnr=M53

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9_amg-Aos4

    It will give me amazing 6 pack abs in 3 weeks with no dieting.

  7. Researcher sees future where people walk at work by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2005-06-07-office-fit_x.htm
    "Sitting at their desks is about the last thing workers would do in Dr. James Levine's office of the future.
    Dr. James Levine keeps a 1 mph pace on his treadmill while checking his e-mail.at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn.
    Instead of being sedentary in front of their computers, they'd stand. But instead of standing still, they'd walk on a treadmill. And instead of meeting around a conference table, they'd talk business while walking laps on a track."

    But just a standing desk with a tall stool to alternate with can work wonders for back pain and good posture.
    The walking is probably better on the knees though.

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  8. Re:Excerice ball by RManning · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've recently done a lot of research about this. Apparently, sitting on an exercise ball is good for very short periods of time, but very bad for you back over long periods. The lack back support and angle of your pelvis causes a lot of compression on your lower vertebra.

    I'm sure with a little googleing you can find more information.

  9. get the leap chair from steelcase by ppetrakis · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's so much simpler and cost effective than the Aeron. The chair moves with you,
    the seat pan, the lower lumbar support, it's great. It's arm rests are fully adjustable, vertically, forward/back, and side to side. The lower back support actually works and doesn't feel like someone stuck a piece of wood behind your back. You can adjust it's height and it's depth. I've owned one now for 2 years now and have no regrets. I have back problems and this is the only chair I can sit in without being miserable when I use a computer.

    http://store.steelcase.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=LEAPV2

    If you really want to go all out, get the forward tilt option. The only
    reason I didn't is that the lead time was an extra 1-2 weeks. I should also
    mention that it was really easy to setup. It came in one big box and in two parts, the seat and base. All I had to do was drop the seat onto the base and it was ready, no tools were necessary.

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  10. Re:*blink blink* by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Especially in Redmond.

  11. Humanscale Freedom Chair by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 5, Informative

    I recommend the Humanscale Freedom Chair with Headrest. I ahve used one for eight years following back surgery, and I love it. I prefer it to the Aeron. It comes in lots of color/fabric choices and is virtually indestructible. The only drawback is price. List is about $1,000, but you can find it for $150-200 less on the net. It also looks cool.

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  12. For a really unique geek chair by muellerr1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    See if you can track down the one Ballmer threw. In addition to the enormous geek cred, that chair would have great sentimental value as well.

  13. Re:Personally: by hostyle · · Score: 5, Informative
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  14. Re:*blink blink* by q-the-impaler · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... wives that read \. too. What's with the backslash? What are you, a Windows user!?!?! Get him boys...
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  15. Mrs Balmer? is that you? by Simon+Rowe · · Score: 4, Funny

    He doesn't want it for coding in...

  16. Aeron and RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome) by kmahan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've owned an Aeron for several years. I used to sit in it for 8 to 10 hours a day working. After a couple of years I started experiencing the symptoms of RLS. Very annoying. I went to docs for the usual diagnostics/drugs. Nothing really helped.

    One day my wife was talking to the manager of a Relax The Back store and my RLS came up. Upon hearing that I used an Aeron chair he said "That could be the problem. The way the front area of the chair where the legs go over is designed can cause problems with circulation and such." (I heard this second hand from my wife). I switched to a more traditional office chair. Within a month my RLS symptoms were gone.

    So no scientific proof and I haven't felt like switching back to see the Aeron was the problem. But I'm a lot happier now.

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  17. Re:*blink blink* by sunking2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I dunno, I've seen some of the females who read slashdot. :)

  18. Actually, your humor is misplaced by melted · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Microsoft is remarkably family friendly, compared to other tech companies (including Google). If you ever plan on actually having a family, or if your current employer does not give a shit if you ever see your children, Microsoft is a great place to work.

  19. Re:*blink blink* by c0d3h4x0r · · Score: 4, Funny

    You're kidding, right? Haven't you seen all the Anonymous Cowards he's spawned?

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  20. Re:*blink blink* by sunking2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mod points, yah right. They can't even master driving or understanding the rules of football. ;)

  21. Re:*blink blink* by FroMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    You haven't noticed slashdot leans to the left?

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  22. Simple, here you go, by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Find a place that has nice office chairs and do measurments.

    Take him there, treat him like a king while it he gets the measurements and adjustments done.

    He can pick out all the colors he wants.
    After words a nice meal with some good drinks.

    When the chair gets delivered, put the 10 month old down for a nap and fuck your husband in the chair.

    You now have the perfect, favorite chair.

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  23. Maybe that is what went wrong? by LibertineR · · Score: 5, Interesting
    15 years ago, when old timers like me were sweating to ship, it was practically a divorce announcement a week, in my group. Weeks before deadlines, sleeping in our offices, doing build, after build after build, nobody would have considered Redmond to be family friendly.

    In fact, if you needed family time, you were considered a bit suspect, or a whiny little bitch.

    But, in those days, we shipped indeed, and our stock price was ever-rising. Back then, you could even tell an under-achiever that they sucked without fear of a lawsuit.

    But, Win95 shipped, Exchange shipped, Office shipped, and left a trail of dead or dying competitors in our wake.

    Now?

    Vista.

    Enough said.

    Family Friendly hasn't done crap for shareholders, IMHO.

    1. Re:Maybe that is what went wrong? by MythoBeast · · Score: 5, Funny

      Family Friendly hasn't done crap for shareholders, IMHO.

      Yea, man. I'm right with you. I mean, look what happened to all those poor plantation owners when emancipation came around. There's just no justice in this world.

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    2. Re:Maybe that is what went wrong? by Von+Helmet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Family Friendly hasn't done crap for shareholders, IMHO.

      I ask this somewhat rhetorically and certainly drunkenly, but why does the shareholders right to income trump the workers right to life?

    3. Re:Maybe that is what went wrong? by pushf+popf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      15 years ago, when old timers like me were sweating to ship, it was practically a divorce announcement a week, in my group. Weeks before deadlines, sleeping in our offices, doing build, after build after build, nobody would have considered Redmond to be family friendly.
      In fact, if you needed family time, you were considered a bit suspect, or a whiny little bitch.


      That's really a personal choice. 15 Years ago, I was in the same position, and made a choice to work normal hours, get married, learn to SCUBA dive, take vacations and have a life.

      This magic was accomplished by telling my manager "No, I will not work nights, weekends and holidays."

      Today, I'm still married, own a software business, have friends, take vacations and life is good. In fact, if I interview someone and they say they're willing to sell their soul to me, I won't hire them. I want people who have lives. They're happier, more productive and more stable.

    4. Re:Maybe that is what went wrong? by pushf+popf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm constantly searching for 20-somethings who are more concerned about how their eventual children will live in 2020, than how they themselves are living right now. These people are getting harder and harder to find

      They're getting harder to find because nobody wants a life that sucks. And if you fone someone who does, they're typically damaged in some way.

      Its a different mindset these days, and while you think your folks are productive, I would comfortably assume that were you up against us on a project, my people would eat your lunch. We work until we ship. THEN we play.

      Knock yourself out. I don't sell code, I sell ideas and business processes and charge based on the value I provide to the client, not the hours worked or lines of code. In fact, the actual coding tends to be relatively minimal.

      If you need to change diapers between builds, you probably don't want to work for me.

      That would account for your hiring difficulties. The only thing more seductive to a programmer than money and toys is having an actual life. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that taking his girlfriend out for a weekend in the mountains is more rewarding than sitting under a flourescent light chasing a segfault at 3am.

      I have dived the wrecks of Belize, with the NEW wife (younger and cuter, since I am smarter and richer) and have a great time. Like you say, its a choice. You are happy with yours, I am ecstatic with mine. Good luck.

      It's nice diving. I saw my first ray there, but I like Tobermory and the St. Lawrence better. The tropical wrecks deteriorate too quickly.

      Good luck with the money and wife. I suspect by the time you hit your 60's you'll wish you had been a little less "driven." The "Trophy Wife" is a little sad; partially because when you marry someone it's supposed to be forever and partially because you now have a wife that married you for money and will leave when you lose yours or someone else comes along with more.

  24. Re:*blink blink* by chemisus · · Score: 4, Funny

    she never said it was his, in fact, she said, 'my', instead of, 'our'

  25. I'm sorry, but Win95 is a turd worse than Vista by melted · · Score: 4, Informative

    Win95 and early versions of Exchange and Office are nothing to be proud of. It's good that you had a good sense to not mention Windows 98 and Me as a shining example of solid engineering.

    Now the current versions of Exchange, SQL, Server, IIS, Office, dev tools - I think Microsoft can be proud of that. Vista is a management fuck up, IC's have nothing to do with it being a pile of crap.

  26. Surgery on my ass by kramulous · · Score: 5, Informative

    the Aeron is it allows airflow around your body.
    I'm going to make my work buy one today.

    This is embarrassing, but two years ago I had surgery on my butt. I can't remember the name of the condition, but it has generally been reserved for truckdrivers. Basically what happens is a hair in your crack becomes ingrown because you sweat (I live in a sub-tropical environment and at the time, wasn't wearing 100% cotton underwear), and sitting down all day the hair grows inward. Long story short, you go to *extreme* pain very quickly and hence I had a lot of morphine (which is good) and a general anesthetic and surgery to remove about 60ml of pus (which was bad). I had an additional hole in my arse about the size of my fist (poor choice, perhaps a tennis ball).

    The next worst thing was the healing process. You have to regularly wash the wound out three times daily to prevent the condition occurring again until the wound completely heals. That takes about 4 months! I'm stoked that my partner is a nurse, but it's not really all as glamorous as it sounds.

    You do not want this condition! Wear 100% cotton underwear, pants that breath, and a chair that does not allow you to lean back. (Found the condition - pilonidal cyst - beware the gross pictures)
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    1. Re:Surgery on my ass by Stanistani · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is embarrassing, but two years ago I had surgery on my butt. One of these days, I'm going to learn at what exact point to stop reading a particular post.
    2. Re:Surgery on my ass by duckInferno · · Score: 5, Funny

      One of these days, I'll take posts like yours as a warning not to expand the parent.

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  27. Re:*blink blink* by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 5, Funny

    #if 0

    for the win

    #endif

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  28. Re:*blink blink* by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's with the backslash?

    Trying to escape a period?

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  29. Re:*blink blink* by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh shit you just called them fat!

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  30. Re:*blink blink* by Dirtside · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All joking aside, can we put the "Slashdotters never get girls" meme out to pasture? I've been married for six years (and reading Slashdot for ten) and have two kids, and there's plenty others like me. The joke was kinda funny the first eleventy billion times it was made, but it's old and busted now. It's not that I'm offended by it (I'm not), it's that it's just... tired.

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