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RIAA's Throwing In the Towel Covered a Sucker Punch

NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "The RIAA threw in the towel, all right, but was only doing it in preparation for throwing a sucker punch. After dropping its 'making available' case, Warner v. Cassin, before Judge Robinson could decide whether to dismiss or not, it was only trying to do an 'end run' (if I may mix my sports metaphors) around the judge's deciding the motion and freezing discovery. The RIAA immediately, and secretly, filed a new case against the family, calling this one 'Warner v. Does 1-4.' In their papers the lawyers 'forgot' to mention that the new case was related. As a result, Does 1-4 was assigned to another judge, who knew nothing about the old case. The RIAA lawyers also may have forgotten that they couldn't bring any more cases over this same claim, since they'd already dismissed it twice before. Not to worry, NYCL wrote letters to both judges, reminding them of what the RIAA lawyers had forgotten."

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  1. NYCL FTW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That is all.

    1. Re:NYCL FTW! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      TIA is "thanks in advance." YHL. HTH. HAND.

    2. Re:NYCL FTW! by KillerBob · · Score: 4, Funny

      Probably... Overuse of acronyms may very well cause a TIA

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  2. we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by unity100 · · Score: 4, Funny

    just to make sure he's safe from any shit riaa may try pulling.

    now, which of you geeks want to take on this duty ?

    1. Re:we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

      I heard they were gonna put a severed horse head in his bed, but it turns out that's copyrighted.

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    2. Re:we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by MasterOfMagic · · Score: 4, Funny

      NewYorkCountryLawyer has been kidnapped by RIAA ninjas.

      Are you a bad enough dude to rescue NewYorkCountryLawyer?

    3. Re:we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by RuBLed · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or maybe just list the names of these lawyers.. Is that possible? Maybe we could make then a Caramelldansen animation.

    4. Re:we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by Psmylie · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes to the black suits. Not because they look cool, but because black is very slimming.

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    5. Re:we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

      now, which of you geeks want to take on this duty ?

      Yes, because of when I think of effective bodyguards, I think slashdot geeks. Though I suppose theoretically if one took a bullet for NYCL, his pocket protector might intercept the bullet.

    6. Re:we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by veganboyjosh · · Score: 2, Funny

      if one took a bullet for NYCL,

      What kind of mod points does one get for that?!

    7. Re:we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Funny

      Makes sense. With the new summer movies coming out, this move might be used to promote the Get Smart movie:

      RIAA:Would you believe that "making available" is copyright infringement?
      Judge Robinson:No.
      *Refiles and puts on disguise*
      RIAA:How about now?

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    8. Re:we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by Kajukenbo · · Score: 2, Funny

      There are plenty of Kaju people in the NY area that can help if he looks them up.
      NYCL, I'd volunteer to do it, but I'm in the Midwest, so just remember some of the basics:

      1) Don't block with your face
      2) It only hurts until the pain goes away
      3) The best defense is a great offense
      4) Sticks and stones CAN break your bones
      5) When Zen ends, the beatings begin

      and one that may resonate with you

      6) It's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six... ;-)

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    9. Re:we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by Kjella · · Score: 2, Funny

      What kind of mod points does one get for that?! -6, Feet
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    10. Re:we gotta assign people to protect NYCL by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just reply with his full name, addresses of his legal and most frequented vacation residences, passport picture, daily routes to and from work, etc. I'll take care of the rest. I kid, I kid. No, but seriously... Did you say "vacation"? What the hell is a "vacation"?
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  3. Re:i want to kill myself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I advise old age. That's how I'm planning to kill myself.

  4. Not innocent enough! by DarkLegacy · · Score: 5, Funny

    When's the RIAA going to stop suing families and finally go for the homeless people? ;)

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    1. Re:Not innocent enough! by DMoylan · · Score: 2, Funny

      homeless people don't have any way of paying the money that the riaa want.

      if however they had a law were you could legally harvest their organs i wouldn't put it past these vultures.

    2. Re:Not innocent enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "homeless people don't have any way of paying the money that the riaa want."

      Well, I guess they should have thought about that before they signed online and downloaded all that illegal music to their iPod!

    3. Re:Not innocent enough! by YojimboJango · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't forget the article a few weeks ago about them suing a university lazer jet printer.

    4. Re:Not innocent enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I know it's just the proper abbreviation, but;

      [quote]Death is no obstacle to feeling the long arm of the Recording Industry Ass. of America.[/quote]

      It seemed so apt.

  5. Re:Hang'em high. New law needed. by houghi · · Score: 4, Funny

    How does 10 years for using lawless lawyers sound?
    What does Lucy or any of her lawers has to do with anything?
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  6. no by unity100 · · Score: 2, Funny

    we use unearthly vengeful avatar magic instead. we bend space/time, shift densities, put shear force on souls, and do force pushes.

    1. Re:no by Kokuyo · · Score: 3, Funny

      But the suits ar still okay, right?

  7. Re:How can they get away with this by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 4, Funny

    How can you file a 'secret' lawsuit anyway?

    I do it all the time. I have a folder under my bed labelled "Secret Lawsuits".

  8. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by geminidomino · · Score: 5, Funny

    But ethics charges against attorneys are rare and they are very hard to enforce. Well yeah. Charging a lawyer for ethics violations is like charging a wolverine for "failure to adhere to vegan principles."
  9. Subversion of Justice Workshop. by splutty · · Score: 5, Funny

    We are very proud to announce our new workshop called Subversion of Justice.

    We think this is the new trend in law at this moment, and have already found 4 speakers that are more than willing to state their case.

    Our thanks go to Mr Bush, Mr Thompson, An anonymous person from the Scientology church who wants to go by the nomicker of 'Tom', and one or more speakers from an organization calling themselves RIAA for being this fast in giving their assent to speak at this great event.

    Please stay tuned for more details.

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  10. Re:Estoppel by PolyDwarf · · Score: 5, Funny

    It depends on jurisdiction. I did pretty bad in Civil Procedure, and don't have my FRCP in front of me, but in Federal Court (which I don't even know if theyre in since I didn't RTFA), you get 2 bites at the apple. You can voluntarily remove yourself once, then refile and I think if there's a procedural problem, you can also remove and refile. Don't quote me on all that though. Well, then everything's fine. There was a procedural problem with their second suit; they were going to lose.
  11. Re:Isn't this well into sanctionable territory? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I suggest disembowelment, myself.

  12. Re:Disbar the RIAA lawyers by Ang31us · · Score: 2, Funny

    "They're clearly so fucking incompetent that they deserve dimemberment anyway."

    There, I fixed that for you.

  13. An old legal maxim by Anita+Coney · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's an old legal maxim that say if you can't win under the law, argue the facts. And if you can't win under either, well, there's always lying, cheating, and stealing.

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    1. Re:An old legal maxim by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      There's an old legal maxim that say if you can't win under the law, argue the facts. And if you can't win under either, well, there's always lying, cheating, and stealing.

      I thought it went:

      If the facts are on your side, bang on the facts.
      If the law is on your side, bang on the law.
      If neither the facts nor the law is on your side, bang on the table
      I'm not sure what the RIAA lawyers are doing here, banging their heads against the wall perhaps?

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  14. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by Yetihehe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Imagine a coin. Good is one one side and bad is on other. Then there are lawyers, which are opposite to both sides. They are greater than both good and evil, able to walk on edges between good and bad. And there is NYCL, he is in oppsoition to lawyers, and he is one of them. The most mythical man of all dimensions. He is the one which trims the edges, uncovering thruth before our eyes. He is the son of justice.

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  15. Re:Disbar them by peipas · · Score: 5, Funny

    I work for a bar association, and we indeed host continuing legal education (CLE) seminars entitled, Avoiding Ethics Mistakes in the Legal Profession, but that title doesn't fit on our room signage so we just go with, Avoiding Ethics.

  16. Re:Hang'em high. New law needed. by Blitz22 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Boooooooo!!!!! Hisssssss!!!!

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  17. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by XnavxeMiyyep · · Score: 5, Funny

    And there is NYCL, he is in oppsoition to lawyers, and he is one of them. The most mythical man of all dimensions. He is the one which trims the edges, uncovering thruth before our eyes. He is the son of justice.

    Starring Wesley Snipes, as Blade 4: Music of Blood

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  18. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by sammyF70 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do you have any Torrent Tracker for it?

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  19. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, what you're saying is that in contrast to most lawyers, who are coins with big edges, NYCL is a marble? Or just that he has more marbles than most lawyers?

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  20. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imagine a coin. Good is one one side and bad is on other.


    You are Harvey Dent and I claim my five pounds.
  21. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by Cocoronixx · · Score: 5, Funny

    No you're not. Unless the collapsing thing was a design failure. I am having a hard time finding a case where collapsing would be considered a design feature, rather than a design failure.
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  22. Re:Dirty Pool by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is off topic, but I'd never date a lawyer unless I was one.

    Closing on the half century, I've just heard too many ugly stories about how bad it can get when the relationship ends. I'd prefer someone safe, like a gang leader's sister.

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  23. WASTE by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bits are not free. Do not waste them on another Blade sequel. Shut down the computer if you're not using it.

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  24. Re:Estoppel by SQLGuru · · Score: 4, Funny
    An unnamed source says:

    You can voluntarily remove yourself once, then refile and I think if there's a procedural problem, you can also remove and refile. Don't quote me on all that though. Layne
  25. Re:i want to kill myself by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Funny

    Suicide-bomb RIAA headquarters. Two birds with one stone! :D

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  26. Re:Estoppel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't quote me on all that though. Parent is obviously not paying attention.
  27. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by KillerBob · · Score: 2, Funny
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  28. Re:Disbar them by Libertarian001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm guessing it's a popular course. Ever have a student try to sue for false advertising?

  29. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by reiley · · Score: 5, Funny

    I heard they're going to be placed on Double-Secret Probation

  30. Re:i want to kill myself by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    And I'm posting here because NYCL is precisely the kind of self-absorbed cunt that makes the world so unbearable.

    Would a self-absorbing cunt require tampons? No idea why that thought popped into my head.

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  31. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by Adriax · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's a doctor, not a lawyer. Haven't you expanded his acronym? New York County Legalpractitionerofthemedicalarts.

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  32. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by MBGMorden · · Score: 3, Funny

    You just having used Microsoft Visual Bridge Express 2008 yet. Collapsing is a standard feature if the road becomes overburdened by traffic (at which point it is assumed that you would want to demolish and upgrade the new 12 lane Enterprise Edition).

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  33. You want the Thruth? by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can't handle the Thruth!

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  34. Re:Dirty Pool by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think it's safe to say that NYCL has a low opinion of their tactics both from an ethical standpoint and from a legal practice standpoint. Yes I think he does.
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  35. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by theaceoffire · · Score: 2, Funny

    Forget the 12 lane Enterprise Edition, that is so old!

    Now we got the 12 lane SUPER NEAT VISTA edition!

    It has the same number of lanes, and less cars can go at once, but more can wait in line... and don't you want the bridge to take advantage of that line?

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  36. Re:Precaustions. by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey Ray, Would you care to state, for the record, that you love life and don't have any - you know - suicidal tendencies, or that you don't like to partake in high risk activities? Just in case something.... unfortunate happens. If anything happens to me, you can pretty well figure out who did it.

    And for the record, I do love life, have no suicidal tendencies, and never engage in high risk activities.

    However it could be argued that my entry into this arena may have displayed some masochistic tendency.
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  37. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Planned parenthood.

  38. Re:I'm not a lawyer, so someone please explain thi by bhiestand · · Score: 2, Funny

    No you're not. Unless the collapsing thing was a design failure. I am having a hard time finding a case where collapsing would be considered a design feature, rather than a design failure. A bridge to RIAA headquarters?
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  39. Re:Precaustions. by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 2, Funny

    pain is best felt alive pain is only felt alive
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