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Groundbreaking Solar Mission Faces Chilly Death

iamlucky13 writes "Over 17 years ago, the Ulysses spacecraft was launched aboard the space shuttle Discovery for a unique NASA/ESA mission. While nearly all other probes travel along our solar system's ecliptic plane, Ulysses used a Jupiter gravity assist to swing 80 degrees out of plane, carrying it over the sun's poles for an unprecedented view. During a mission that lasted four times longer than planned, it has flown through the tails of several comets, helped pinpoint distant gamma-ray bursts, and provided data on the sun and its heliosphere from the better part of two solar cycles. Unfortunately, the natural reduction of power from its radioisotope thermal generator means it is now unable to even keep its attitude control fuel from freezing, and NASA has decided to formally conclude the mission on July 1."

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  1. solar power? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should have put solar panels on it.

    1. Re:solar power? by inamorty · · Score: 5, Funny
      No man, it's an attitude problem.

      it is now unable to even keep its attitude control fuel from freezing Instead of chilling out, it should apply itself more.
    2. Re:solar power? by NathanBFH · · Score: 4, Informative

      While this was certaintly true 17 years ago, it's interesting to note that we are now able to sufficiently power science craft with solar panels even as far as Jupiter. Check out Juno: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_(spacecraft)

  2. Not really as bad as the blurb sounds by the_humeister · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The mission lasted 4 times longer than was planned. Not too shabby (unless you compare to those Mars rovers that just keep going and going...). Sure beats having the mission end prematurely due to stupid things like not having enough fuel or computer errors.

    1. Re:Not really as bad as the blurb sounds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Come to google it, it's even lasted longer than those Mars rovers fixed.
  3. So long Energizer Bunny by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Funny

    those Mars rovers that just keep going and going

    I am waiting for Energizer to ditch that obnoxious rabbit and license the Mars Rovers for their advertising.

    1. Re:So long Energizer Bunny by ckaminski · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you noticed, the rabbit's pink. The whole marketing program is a mind-numbingly awesome appeal to women to use Energizer batteries to power their vibrators.

  4. Am I the only one that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...gets a little choked up thinking about that poor abandoned craft out there floating to oblivion with no one to talk to it.

    Ok, back to masculinity-land...

  5. The Real Ulysses by gihan_ripper · · Score: 5, Funny

    As the Greek Geeks will know, the real (legendary) Ulysses (aka Odysseus) went on a ten-year odyssey returning home after the Trojan war. All assumed that Ulysses had died and his former wife was preyed upon by suitors seeking her hand in marriage.

    To cut a long story short, Ulysses killed all the suitors when he got home and was especially cruel to a turncoat goatherd, Melanthius. Ulysses cut off his nose and ears, pulled out his genitals for dog food, then sliced off his hands and feet.

    Let's home the satellite doesn't come back and find us messing about with the ISS.

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    1. Re:The Real Ulysses by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Funny

      So, Ulysses was a neocon, eh?

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    2. Re:The Real Ulysses by Petrushka · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah, because he sucked at navigation. Additionally, he was an idiot: All the things the gods warned him not to do because they would turn out to be bad, he did - and they went bad.

      Not a single statement there accurately reflects the Odyssey. The actual story, as opposed to the one you've made up, relates that:

      1. he took ten years because his men continually disobeyed his orders -- that's made clear in the first few lines --;
      2. he shacked up with Circe for a year (voluntarily);
      3. after he washed up on Calypso's island she basically held him prisoner for seven years. The story also relates how
      4. any time a god told him to do something, he did exactly that; and
      5. he is repeatedly described as having practically divine intelligence, and this is borne out by the various schemes he devises in the story. Even Athena compliments him on his deviousness.

      The reason you do not understand his appeal to the ancient Greeks is because your memory of the story bears little resemblance to the actual story.

  6. I'd send it into the sun for one last splash by crovira · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If the fuel's going to freeze forever after this orbit, I'd send it into the sun with all instruments lit up and see what it can record on the way down.

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    1. Re:I'd send it into the sun for one last splash by cyclone96 · · Score: 4, Informative

      To change the orbit to intersect the sun, a tremendous amount of velocity would need to be removed from the current orbit. It would take more propellant to get it to the sun than it took to launch it from the earth in the first place.

      It's actually quite difficult to "hit the sun", the Messenger spacecraft will need to do one earth, two Venus, and 3 Mercury flybys over 7 years to "slow down" enough so that it can finally brake into orbit around Mercury with it's insertion motor.

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    2. Re:I'd send it into the sun for one last splash by u38cg · · Score: 4, Informative
      Absolutely no way, is the short answer.

      Long answer - in order to get it into the sun, you have to reduce its rotational velocity from numerous miles per second down to zero. You'll remember your 0.5mv^2 - that's how much calorific energy has to be in those tanks to achieve that. Also, at those kind of distances, almost any kind of rotational velocity will be enough to achieve orbit - meaning the damn thing will almost certainly miss and turn into a rather odd comet, which will no doubt baffle our ancestors.

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    3. Re:I'd send it into the sun for one last splash by ozbird · · Score: 4, Informative

      It doesn't carry anywhere near enough fuel for a sun dive.

      Most of the energy to get into its current orbit came from its PAM-S and IUS solid rocket boosters, with Jupiter kicking it out of the ecliptic. Until New Horizons was launched recently, Ulysses was the fastest ever artificially-accelerated object - that's how much energy we're talking about. Ulysses started out with 33.5kg of hydrazine maneuvering fuel, and was down to 8.4kg in May 2002. In a nutshell, you could use up all of the remaining fuel and not get anywhere near the Sun (perhelion distance is around 1 AU.)

    4. Re:I'd send it into the sun for one last splash by gihan_ripper · · Score: 4, Funny

      which will no doubt baffle our ancestors.
      so that would be our time-travelling ancestors?
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  7. NASA-style journalism by TrueJim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can always tell when a story is based on a NASA press release. If the spacecraft exceeded its mission expectations, it's a "NASA spacecraft." But if it failed, it's a "Lockheed-built spacecraft" (or whichever contractor they decide to blame).

    For a change it would be nice to see NASA give kudos to whatever contractor built the successful spacecraft for them.

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  8. RTG lifetime by Richard_J_N · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Quite a few spacecraft seem to run out of power due to failing RTGs. Admittedly, these are the ones that already perform *much* better than their design-lifetime (so Kudos to the designers), but why not just equip them with a little more of the relevant isotope? After all, the mass required is really quite small, and when the missions succeed, it would be great to have a 50+ year lifespan. Is there a good reason why the amount of isotope is limited, or is it just that nobody ever expected the craft to function so well and for so long?

    1. Re:RTG lifetime by deglr6328 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because the problem of failing RTGs is not due to radioactive decay. RTGs use Pu-238 which has a half life of 88 years. It's just as hot as when it launched. The problem is dopant migration in the semiconductor heterojunctiontions (peltier junctions) of the part that creates the electricity. They degrade over time and put out less electricity for the same reason an LED fails gradually over time slowly emitting less and less light for the same amount of energy put in.

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  9. Re:Mission's over? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did you see that big dish on it? "Floating around aimlessly" = not pointing at the earth. You can't transmit to the earth without attitude control.

  10. Don't know how to mod this by Fross · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's either very informed indeed, or complete rubbish. I mean, "heterojunctiontions"?

    Well done, I'm completely stumped.

  11. Sweet Lord, Star Trek Writers by patio11 · · Score: 4, Funny

    >>
    dopant migration in the semiconductor heterojunctiontions
    >>

    Hire this guy. Now. He makes your "tachyon pulses" look like the deranged ramblings of a man-child.

  12. Here there's more by Dusty · · Score: 4, Informative

    The European Space Agency had a press conference about the end of Ulysses on Thursday. Brief note and audio feed. Longer press release.

    The video the Ulysses Legacy has a great summary of the mission, and of the problems it now faces.