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Indefinite Imprisonment For Web Site Content

Suriken writes "In an unprecedented move, the New Zealand Solicitor General is seeking an indefinite prison sentence against American businessman Vince Siemer for alleged breach of an interim gag order now more than three years old. Siemer was jailed for six weeks last year for refusing to take down a Web site accusing the chairman of an energy company of suspect business practices. Because he still refuses to take down the site, NZ Solicitor-General David Collins QC wants to lock up Siemer indefinitely, merely for asserting his own free speech. From the article: 'Siemer's [defense] claims the Solicitor General's action is barred by double jeopardy. He also maintains he had long ago proven in Court that the injunction was incorrect in fact and law but that the judge simply ignored the law and evidence. He says the gag order violates his freedom of expression guarantees in these circumstances.' Here's more coverage from an NZ television station."

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  1. Re:Standard sentence for contempt of court by j1mmy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Great idea! Guys on death row should *definitely* wait until after being executed to appeal the sentence.

  2. Ummm by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Funny

    He's dead.

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  3. Kiwis are Un-American! by IntelliTubbie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Geez, what's the matter with New Zealand? If they bothered to read the First, Fifth, Sixth, and Eighth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution, they'd know that this sort of thing is illegal. I thought this was America, but it's almost like these people live in some other country.

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    1. Re:Kiwis are Un-American! by Doh! · · Score: 5, Funny

      New Zealand isn't part of the U.S., dumbass. It's part of Australia. I swear, they don't teach kids here in America anything these days...

    2. Re:Kiwis are Un-American! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      New Zealand isn't part of the U.S., dumbass. It's part of Australia...

      (Kirk) "And a double dumbass on you!"

      Yes, but Australia is part of the U.S., so if N.Z. is part of Australia... Oh, draw yourself a Venn diagram.

  4. Re:Standard sentence for contempt of court by Khaed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Man, I hope you don't live somewhere with the death sentence for contempt of court...

  5. We should help this guy! by francisstp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, his website has got to be one of the ugliest around, even by 1996 standards.

  6. Re:Free speech. by HJED · · Score: 2, Funny

    However, NZ is not yet a state of Australia, so I'm not sure why it's come up :) I belive the oprative work in that sentance in not yet
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  7. Re:Standard sentence for contempt of court by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe so, but Captain New Zealand says: Do what the judge orders you to do, you idiot.

  8. Re:Free speech. by Admiral+Ag · · Score: 5, Funny

    The impossibility of New Zealand joining is mentioned by every New Zealander.

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  9. Re:Free speech. by stop+bothering+me · · Score: 4, Funny

    It probably came up in the same way that we get confused between the US and Canada.

  10. Re:Unfortunately by jd · · Score: 2, Funny

    That should be lawyer, but given his comments in court, I refuse to declare it a typo.

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  11. Re:Free speech. by Scannerman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not strictly true. I have met a few New Zealanders who are reasonably sympathetic to the the idea of the West Island(s) joining, as long as they are governed from Wellington

  12. Re:Free speech. by settantta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course, what most commenters are missing is that there is a difference between Australia and New Zealand. The incident is in New Zealand, not Australia, so it is possible that their defamation law is different. Their thinking might be a bit wooly though :p) (The Aussies will get that one).

  13. Re:Free speech. by shimmyshimpson · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, it's really a fait acompli anyway as half of NZ already reside at Manly. We put up with the silly "anti-oz" rantings that come from some of the kiwis, while kindly allowing huge numbers of them to flee their grim homeland and live here. Of course, it goes without saying that the only people heading the other way are some bored tourists off to NZ to look at the boiling mud....and the sheep. Every time you turn around in a large Oz city you see hordes of Nz'rs bouncing in pubs, or employed as furniture movers, and lots of lots of "Ah Bro?" going on.

  14. Re:Free speech. by Walkingshark · · Score: 5, Funny

    How did you know I was a member of Al Quaeda?! I bet that bastard Muhammed in accounting talked, right?

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  15. Re:Free speech. by Dracophile · · Score: 4, Funny

    Their thinking might be a bit wooly though :p)

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