Digitizing Old Magazines?
"I have a lot of old video game magazines, they're nice for playing 'classic games' because a lot of classics are impossible without the manual, and hard without a magazine (the magazine obviously negates the need for a manual usually). But they'd get damaged with a flatbed scanner, and digital cameras are hard to set up right for capturing old magazines. I know that old documents are digitally archived with very high-res cameras..."
So, the question is, what is the best way to capture all the information in old magazines in digital format? Does anyone have a home-built rig taking after the angled-pair-of-scanners setup that Project Gutenburg uses?
I have the same question but for my old photographs. We have a lot of old (non digital) pictures when I was a kid (when there were no digital cameras). And it would really help if someone have some good suggestions on converting those to digital formats.
I am scanning few of them from time to time, but there are way too much to manually scan each one of them. TIA
Ok, you're going to hate me for saying this, because you feel they are collectors items, but really, they are just manufactured items made of bits.
So cut off the spines with an industrial paper cutter and put them through a sheetfed document scanner. Get over your attachment to paper.
If it's a special magazine that was signed by somebody or is rare, I could see keeping it. But otherwise it's a printout. The real value is in the information.
Now alas, these are probably copyrighted and can't be shared. If this were not the case this becomes a no brainer, because the "valuable" "original" would stay locked on your shelf, and the digital copy would provide value to many. It would be a strange devotion to the magazine to want to deprive so many of access to it in the name of preserving its "essence."
Scanners like the Internet Archive has are great, but they are expensive, and expensive to operate. As a result, fewer documents get scanned, and that's the tragedy, not the loss of the spine of a magazine.
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I Use a Plustek OpticBook 3600 Plus scanner.
It allows scanning a book without forcing it flat.
The scanner itself is great, but be warned, the software is infuriatingly buggy, even in the latest release. Luckily there are work-arounds.
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The best thing I can come up with off the top of my head is get a light controlled room, and place a thin mirror (clean mirror, very clean mirror) in the pages... and photograph the image on the mirror when you get it at the right angle... Maybe.
Depending on the kind of binding which holds the spine together, I normally wouldn't hesitate to use a flatbed scanner to digitize them. Stapled mags are easier to work with than ones which are perfect-bound or have saddle-stitched bindings. From my POV, the collectibility of the analog original is irrelevant; all I'm after is the data itself, regardless of the physical container. As long as I accomplish a sufficiently high-res scan, I'm happy. I've occasionally removed staples prior to scanning or even sliced off the spines with an X-Acto knife. Of course I'd be far more gentle if the originals were not my own property. :)
For magazines which are bound too tightly (or are too large or fragile) to easily fit onto a flatbed scanner, you may have to consider setting up a photgraphic copy stand. You'll need twin lighting sources on each side of the stand, angled downwards at 45 degrees. The stand should have a screw fitting to mate against the base of your camera body. Reflections from glossy magazine pages may have to be eliminated via use of a circular polarizing filter added to your camera lens. I'm not sure how you'd weigh down the edges of the mag, though...slabs of a transparent material such as lucite or plexiglass? I don't envy anyone who needs to go down this route to take digital photos of the mag pages.
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No, I will NOT slice the spines.
The idea of 2-part solution where my digital camera is mounted and a separate stand that holds the comic perfectly is appealing. The solution would have to enable rapid turning of pages and the pages will have to remain as flat as possible.
A non-glare glass plate that does not reduce picture quality is probably too much of a dream, but I'm open for suggestions.
Give me some ideas and I may donate the images to Guttenberg or other worthwhile repository.
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...this is probably the result of a "compromise" between you and your wife, because those old mags are taking up too much shelf space?
A few things:
I must respectfully disagree with the above reply. The magazine is not simply a print-out. It's an intact cultural artifact as a magazine. If not now, then in fifty or 100 years from now.
Are you primarily interested in the text of the magazine articles themselves? Or the images (such as 'Mens magazines' like Club International that are primarily images)? Or are you interested in preserving the balance in the layout between the text, the images, and the adverts?
For text primarily, use a stand for the magazine, and a 10 megapixel digital camera with a small tripod. Optical Character Recognition is the way to go in this situation. But it is hard to get the exact right program for your configuration.
Are these magazines in English or a western European language? OCR is much easier and faster with 100 or so ASCII characters than it is with Chinese, Japanese, or Korean. OCR for these languages exists but the programs are expensive if you actually buy them. Personally, I believe that because the Chinese have stolen billions of dollars worth of software from the Americans since the earliest days of computers, the Americans have no moral, ethical, or legal obligation to pay for any software developed and sold by a Chinese company. But, opinions differ on this issue.
Keep the magazines intact. You'll regret cutting them up in the future when a more elegant solution to digitizing them appears that doesn't entail destroying the original materials.
magazine and comic book companies are creating digital versions of the old magazines and comic books.
This might prove to be a business opportunity for a savvy geek that finds out what underwriting company owns the rights to defunct magazines like the Compute! series, and then buy the rights to them to reproduce them digitally. Usually some accountants and/or lawyers play the role of a corporate undertaker and buy out IP of failed companies. Then just scan the old magazines into PDF format, and sell them online for like $3 a copy to download the PDF version.
Some companies did that for the old 8 bit computers and game consoles, and made things like the Atari Flashback console or the Commodore 64 joystick by buying the IP rights to the games and the computer/console BIOS so an emulator can run inside of a tiny computer that fits inside of a game system or game controller hooked up to a modern TV set. Some companies also sell the ROMs online by buying out the IP for Atari arcade ROMs and other things.
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You might want to investigate an inexpensive copy stand. Generally the base of the stand has a registration/alignment system you can use and the lights are set at a 45-degree angle to eliminate or minimize reflection. This will work best if the magazines are simple fold-and-staple binding. If they are perfect binding, you will have to break the spine so they will lay as flat as possible. The other thing you will have to do is cover the page you are photographing with a sheet of the cleanest glass you can get. But a word of caution here... no magazine will lay perfectly flat, so there will be some page distortion in the image. If you are going to do this (break the spine) you will be better off with a flatbed scanner which will cost considerably less than the stand and the four 250-watt lamps.
There are a lot of scanned in videogame magazines online. Do a search for the name of the magazine followed by torrent and you might find some of them.
Computer Gaming World put up the first 100 issues in pdf form when they switched to Games For Windows Magazine. I know there is an effort (if they haven't already succeeded) to scan in every issue of Nintendo Power. There is a lot of other stuff out there too.
Look around for them and it might save you the time of scanning them in yourself.
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He's making a fair use copy.
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Rent a monestary. It's slow, but it'll add some value to your magazines.
No, no, and futhermore, no. We're not talking about the recording industry here (although they've been continuously defeated on fair use copies, along with the video industry). We're talking about making archival/personal use copies of printed works someone already owns, a practice that's been heavily tested in various academic and related arenas.
No, you could not "easily lose that fair use argument" in a courtroom with regard to this situation. Now, if you went out and distributed copies of the material, you've broken copyright law and would be wide open to civil actions.
Should you happen to continue to assert your position on this matter, cite supporting examples in case law.
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Similarly, the best way to restore a faded, scratched, folded family photo? Ask around the family and see if you can find a better copy! That can give much better results than all the Photoshop trickery in the world. I've seen it work.
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And people wonder why it's so easy for the RIAA to erode fair use...it's simple, when most people don't even understand what fair use is, it's easy to slowly take it away.
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Here is something which can help make your scans better. If you see ANY print through in your scans -- some parts of the image from the reverse side of the page coming through to your scan of the side you're scanning-- try this. Put a black piece of paper behind the page you are scanning, and flat against it. This will minimze the image from the reverse side of the page.
Well, yes, there are scanners with page feeders. But he's worried about damaging his originals, so he can't follow the Project Gutenberg practice of cutting off the spines and scanning the pages. If he can't use a flatbed scanner, he might have to rig up a photo stand with the magazine under lights and a stand which holds his magazine open with the pages at right angles. Unless even that would cause damage. In that case he'll have to wait for CAT scanners to get good enough to read his magazine when it's closed.
You're sadly right. I'm not going to make a personal habit of hiding away my perfectly legal use of copyrighted materials; in fact, I'm going to make such practices widely known. The fact that children are being raised to view the government and industry giants as shadowy figures that "grant" them their rights is disturbing to say the least.
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I run fromoldbooks.org, a Web site devoted to scanned pictures and text from old books -- some more than 500 years old.
I use an Epson Expression 1000XL flatbed scanner (A3+ resolution, approx 12x17.5" with colour calibration), Linux xsane and gimp, for most of the images, but this does involve damaging the binding of thicker books. I scan wood engravings usually at 2400dpi, but modern screened pictures at only 1200dpi or sometimes even lower. The idea that you only need to scan at twice your print resolution assumes (1) you know what printer you'll use 10 years from now, (2) that once you scale down by more than 50% there's no visible difference (false). For colour you will need to do some descreening, which will generally involve something like an 11 to 17 pixel radius gaussian blur followed by a sharpen.
I also use a Canon 450D (Digital Rebel) camera on a tripod, with a 50mm f/1.8 lens (you can get the lens for around $75 to $100 in US or Canada, less if used) and a remote control; use the mirror lockup function of the camera and the remote to minimise camera shake. I point the camera at the open book.
In either case if there are significant amounts of text I then use Abby FineReader OCR; the open source OCR programs (and most of the other commercial programs) are a waste of time by comparison, or at least that was true 2 years ago when I was last researching this.
Go and buy a couple of large USB external disk drives, e.g. 500GBytes or more, and also write DVD backups frequently. Use a consistent naming scheme; I use a separate directory (folder) for each book or magazine, and I include the page number in the filename, together with -raw for the origial scan and -cleaned for the processed version. I use PNG to save the files because it's lossless, an open standard, and widely supported; I'd suggest avoiding GIF (not enough colours), TIFF (portability problems) or JPEG (lossy).
Obviously if you want to put the magazines on the Web you'll need permission; in my case I am usually digitising out-of-copyright books, although copyright laws have changed since I started, and also my understanding of copyright has changed. E.g I started out believing Wkipedia :-)
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You're confusing Sections 107 (Fair Use) and 108 (Concerning the Rights of Libraries and Archives) of the U.S. Copyright Code. The right of an individual to make an "archival copy" of copyrighted material is a very broad interpretation of Fair Use - which covers reproduction chiefly for the purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Preservation copies are protected by Section 108, but only for libraries and archives. The courts have yet to decisively rule on a case involving the extension of Fair Use to cover something like an individual's right to digitize an old magazine collection.
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It has great tools like PS, but also does 32bit HDR editing giving even better results, especially if you have a 16bit/r/g/b scanner.
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My name is Nick Humphries, and I'm the owner of the Your Sinclair Rock'n'Roll Years. Although I'm posting as an AC, you can verify it's me by sending me an email via the website.
I agree with everyone saying "keep the magazines" - there's something about having the physical mags as a tangible connection to your childhood/the 80s/delete-as-applicable. The smell, the feel...
Anyway...
All I used was an ancient UMAX 610P flatbed scanner. No spines to worry about as all issues of YS are stapled together.
Although I'm a Linux user, the graphics and OCR packages on Windows are far superior for this sort of thing. I find GIMP and Tesseract unusable (I'm one of those people who never read manuals), so I have a virtual Win98se VMWare session running for when I do my OCR-ing.
Software-wise: Paintshop Pro 8 for scanning and image processing so that the page is rotated to be absolutely vertical and the colours reduced to 2-colour b&w TIF for... (PSP's colour manipulation and free-rotation algorithms far out-class those available on the GIMP) ...PageGenie 98, an OCR package so old that the b&w OCR-ing is given away free as a loss-leader for the more valuable colour OCR-ing.
I then use OpenOffice on Linux to proof-read the text before saving the text-file ready for importing into my site-generation scripts (written in lots of Perl).
As for the legalities...
It's murkey. Future Publishing own the rights to Your Sinclair as a whole, although they bought YS from Dennis Publishing in 1990, so there's a little bit of complication added there.
HOWEVER... in a lot of cases, the publisher at the time only had first-publishing rights to an author's articles. Once printed, the copyright remained with the authors to do as they please.
That isn't true across the board - for any given article, the publisher might have owned all the copyrights, some were shared, some were just first-publishing rights, and in some cases there's a dispute as to which article falls into which category.
When I first started putting up original YS articles in 1998, I got no *official* response to my queries to Future about permissions. I decided that the Right Thing To Do would be to instead contact the original authors and get their blessings. One of them turned me down (so his articles don't appear on my site), but well over 40 others said it was OK.
Now 95% of the articles on my site have been cleared by the original authors, and I'm still trying to track down the remainging 5% - although at this stage all I'm left with is a list of pseudonyms which I don't think I'll ever track down.
So, YMMV, but that's what I did.
Nick
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Interesting how the comments questioning fair use are generally moderated "1", while the ones insisting that of course making personal backups is fair use get moderated "5".
Anyway here's what the EFF, not exactly a bastion of copyright absolutists, says in their Fair Use FAQ:
"Many lawyers believe" is a far cry from the parent's comment that making personal backups has been "heavily tested". I'd say this better supports the grandparent comment: "Don't bet on it."
The EFF also says:
Note that making personal backups is quite different in flavor than any of these activities, which are all oriented around improving intellectual debate and discussion.