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550 Metric Tons of Uranium Removed From Iraq
Orion Blastar tips us to an AP report that 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" uranium has successfully been removed from Iraq. The operation lasted three months, and it required 37 separate flights and an 8,500-mile trip by boat to reach a port in Montreal. Quoting:
"While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called 'dirty bomb' -- a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material -- it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment. The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth 'tens of millions of dollars.' A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to discuss the price, but said the yellowcake will be processed at facilities in Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors."
Ontario != Quebec.
Also, as we say in Quebec, "fuck you". Don't you dare compare us to France, it's insulting.
Yellowcake from Niger (Africa). WMDs !! All TRUE !! Now you know why we RE-elected George W. Bush to FOUR MORE YEARS !! He was right ALL ALONG !! I'd give him FOUR MORE YEARS if he'd wipe out Iran. JeeeeeHAAAHDDDD !!
Insulting to the French maybe. Not you whining crybaby Quebeckers.
So the yellowcake isn't a lie?
it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast.
Hmm... I always tought that radiation on blast, would stir death and not panic...
This is AGAIN one f*ck* way try to control readers to get them fear someone.... Why someone dont shoot few people from U.S congress? Why people on control dont fear the people around them who are carrying guns, it is bigger change to get shot there than someone would get delivered dirty bomb to U.S! (actually, it is very easy to deliver, problem is just to get such thing ;)
"...has absolutely no bearing on the situation."
Bullshit. This is just one of the things that proves that Saddam had what we thought he did.
All you're rattling on about this and that has "no bearing on the situation", as you put it.
Sorry, but you're just wrong. You're too blind with hate to see that.
Proof that Saddam had calutrons that could be used to enrich yellow cake uranium to weapons grade. Someone in Switzerland tried to tell the UN about it, and cites independent research as well.
Bill Clinton said the same thing in 1998 so this is not made up.
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Well it is enough to create "reasonable doubt" in any impeachment trial. I think I said that before on Slashdot when many claimed Saddam didn't even have yellow cake uranium, but in the end the truth comes out.
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For all the people who doubted for the last 5 years, we now allow you to put forth your cries of repentance.
Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Democrats or Republicans. They are both taking us to the same place and they are not afraid of us anymore.
If Saddam was so poor, why did we invade? For worthless oil?
Try to make your Bush conspiracies consistent at least.
Go slit your fucking wrists fucktard.
-Orion Blastar (457579)
Saddam has WMDs. We have to take him out or he will use them against us.
Saddam had WMDs, but moved them to Syria. Read the book by his former top general.
Saddam didn't have WMDs, but everyone (including other countries) thought he did.
Saddam had yellowcake. We were right all along. Yellowcake can't even be used in dirty bombs, but what the hell. It is radioactive.
Why do I read so much bs on /. even though I am surfing at +4?
Just for the record: First the decision was made to invade Iraq, then they started looking for reasons: Remove Saddam (he gassed his own people), WMDs, try to start democratic change in the whole region (I still don't get why even people like Fareed Zakaria from Newsweek bought that one. I cancelled my subscription for that very reason. If you want democratic change you have to stop supporting all the kings and dictators from that region.), you name it. Once, because it was so obvious, Rumsfeld even said it out loud. Pick whatever reason you like. We have many good ones.
Why the decision was made in the first place I do not know for certain. And there is a lot of bs floating around that as well. In the end the Bush administration won the 2004 election. Is that good enough? I dunno and I don't want to put my own bs about it here, because I can't prove it.
At first I thought you were joking.
Nope.
Bush, Cheney, et al told so many lies in the lead up to the Iraq war that it's difficult to keep track of them all. Just off the top of my head (and sticking to things we know):
Got those saved in a text file just waiting to paste them the second you get a chance?
I could easily refute each and every point, but it would be pointless. Nothing more than hitting a wall... or trying to convince a Creationist that there isn't a God.
To claim that they didn't lie about anything regarding Iraq is either a sign of coolaid overdose, sock puppetry, or terminal cluelessness.
I stand by my statement. History will be the judge.
"The fight for freedom has only just begun." - Geert Wilders
Hehe, as a matter of fact my first acquaintance with the Canadian French dialect dates back to that French radio show I used to listen to on which they would call random people in Quebec just to learn and mock their expressions. Back then in the late 90s that whole thing was a novelty as we were, if you will, rediscovering Quebec.
Famous quotes from random anonymous Quebecois such as "La la, j'va vous faire r'monter par les pawlices, tabarnac!" were all the rage back then. Strangely enough from that point on the few Quebec-related chatrooms I've visited were mainly populated by other Frenchmen who just like me were there only to imitate and mock their linguistic ways.
You just got troll'd!
Bush used the claim that our allies had "learned" about Sadam's attempts to purchase yellowcake in the state of the union address, even after he had been told that the intelligence community had debunked it. He also failed to mention that our allies had "learned" this non-fact from the Bush administration.
The intelligence community has been staggeringly wrong on a number of issues and Bush went with his gut. Saddam was an ass and getting rid of him removed the thorny problem of him re-arming once sanctions were lifted. Good call. And, if we lied to our "allies", then, so what. US European allies, except for the UK, are so worthless that they make the last 60 years of American support for the liberation of Europe to be a total wasted effort.
Cheney claimed that they "knew" Sadam had bio-weapon lans and "knew where they were"
They all claimed that we would be "greeted as liberators"
In the case of Kurdish Iraq, Americans WERE greeted as liberators. And, had we finished the job in 1991, and not subjected the Iraqis to a decade's stuff.
They claimed that the war would "pay for itself"
Yeah, and Democrats said that Medicare would only cost 10 billion dollars a year, and it does that now, a day. Shall we start shooting all the liberals who gave us that crockfest?
Remember "mission accomplished"?
THE MISSION WAS ACCOMPLISHED! The goal of the war was to replace the government of Iraq, prevent the new creation of WMD. Mission, accomplished. It is only because of the generosity and bold vision of Bush that the USA decided to stay in Iraq and try and rebuild that shattered nation. But there was no need to do that. We could have just let them have a civil war and leave!
Even the "he tried to kill my daddy claim" was a lie; there is no credible evidence that Sadam ever tried to kill Bush Sr
Uh, no. Bill Clinton actually broke up a plan by Saddam to try and whack Bush Sr on a trip to Kuwait.
They planted stories in the press ("the smoking gun that is a mushroom cloud", "able to strike in 45 minutes") through gullible reporters and then "responded" to the stories as if they were based in fact when they were nothing but talking points they themselves had planted.
And, Democrats don't.
They said that congress had seen "the same intelligence information we have" when in fact that was not the case; congress had been shown a carefully cheery picked version sculpted to make the case for war
Congress had every right to not vote for the war. You can say as much as you want, but at the end of the day, power mad Democrats wanted to be seen as tough on the war on terror and voted for it.
They claimed that Iraq was involved in 9/11
If I was in Bush's seat, I think it is reasonable to view any attempt to discredit the Atta meeting in Prague as a sort of lie to designed to protect America's enemies by paralyzing the country into action, - particularly if it was coming from the Europeans. You simply cannot trust European intelligence with regards to any American interest, so I think it was entirely reasonable to trust your own gut and think they were involved. Clearly, Saddam had the motive.
To claim that they didn't lie about anything regarding Iraq is either a sign of coolaid overdose, sock puppetry, or terminal cluelessness.
Since you are so big into honesty, when will your side admit that carbon caps are a feel good, do nothing answer to your imagined global warming crisis? I'm honestly looking forward to asking President Obama when gasoline will be $2/ gallon again, or when he is going to have a trial for a couple of suicide bombers hitting San Fransisco.
Fricking traitors.
This is my sig.
They had tons of tagged, monitored and accounted for yellowcake. They didn't have any they could freely play with. Hans Blix made it clear that as soon as containment ended Saddam would build bombs.
We've been blessed with the opportunity to dig up a long dead horse and flog it again.
FACT: Russia, Germany, Egypt, Israel, Iran, and Great Brittan, ALL warned the US that should it invade in 2003 the US would be met with chemical and biological attacks. MOST of the world thought the assclown HAD Weapons of an unconventional nature and the US responded accordingly.
FACT: 3 US soldiers were seriously injured (2 killed if memory serves) trying to disarm 2 IED's that were composed of nerve agent artillery shells.
FACT: Yellow cake, while not overly harmful CAN be made so with processing. Processing which Saddam was attempting to conduct. Not to mention, that even if he didn't/couldn't he could and would sell said materials to either rogue states or known terrorist.
FACT: we can not go back in time and change facts, or reverse decisions. I would agree that the organization of the event could have been much better. Hell, someday, maybe there will be an administration that will stop thinking of military troops as a well equipped police force, I doubt it but one can hope. The point is this, we need to make DAMN certain that Iraq has a regime that can fend for itself, I say this because Iran is already sowing the seeds of invasion.
One last FACT: the vast majority of US troops who are in Iraq and Afghanistan hate being there, BUT realize that there is a job to do and they are doing it. Re-enlistments are higher than is most peace time periods, enlistments are high but suffer from negative propaganda, the people who speak the most about wanting the troops out are by far proportionally highest among people who have never served and feel that the word "duty" is a four letter word.
I myself, am in the process of re-enlisting (seriously out of shape do to sitting on my ass staring at a monitor everyday for 15 years, that and too many Little Debbie snacks) and am on target for a September re-up. This will be a substantial paycut I might add but I feel strongly enough about it that I am willing to do something that 75% of this country is too afraid to do. That is put my ass on the line for something other than a bloody paycheck.
"...a civilian some of the time, a soldier part of the time and a patriot all of the time." -Brig. Gen. James Drain
Foreign media. Most people who were cynical about the administration's motives long ago realized that the US media wasn't to be trusted to seriously contradict the President.
That doesn't let the original poster off the hook. He made no mention of foreign media. He only said if you were listening to anybody but the US administration. There was not a single mainstream media outlet that seriously challenged the evidence. None. At least now you have organizations like the NY Times that will spill the beans on massive illegal wiretapping.
Furthermore, in the run up to the war, I spoke with many people outside the US that were against it, and the main argument wasn't that Saddam didn't have WMDs or an active program developing them. What I heard was that Saddam wasn't an imminent threat, and that inspections and containment should be the way to keep Saddam in check. I think there was a general belief that since inspections had stopped, something must have been going on.
I'm sure if you took a poll among the anti-war crowd before the war, very few would have guessed the answer to what we actually found when we went in. Do you remember those times before the war? Do you disagree? How many people actually believed that he had nothing?
It's frustrating to watch otherwise intelligent people go all emotional and cross eyed with anything remotely associated with Bush. Had Al Gore taken his rightful place as president and ordered the invasion we'd be lauding him for overthrowing a mass murdering, neighbor invading tyrant who was champing at the bit to resume WMD production. He didn't have any. So what? The day the sanctions ended he would have gone full steam back into it. When the NFZ patrols stopped he'd go back to shelling the Kurds. He would have rebuilt his military and gone after some other neighbor, and done so with money from the BILLIONS in oil concessions from France, Russia, Germany and China (who were uncoindentally the primary objectors to overthrowing Saddam). But don't let reality get in the way of that warm fuzzy feeling you get when you chant "No blood for freedom", i mean "No blood for oil".
Speaking of oil. When is all this oil we're stealing from Iraq going to get here? You pansies said we were invading so we could have cheap gas. So where's the cheap gas? i want the cheap gas you promised me. /voted for Clinton, Gore and Kerry, will vote for Obama
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we invaded and occupied a country, have allowed the pubs that did this to remain in office, and it appears that the dems are going to do nothing about it. All in all, it does not speak well of us Americans. I know that many other countries allow their traitors and criminal politicians to get off scot-free. But we are Americans. This is NOT suppose to happen. Sadly, we allowed reagan off with all that he did. Likewise, Clinton for lying (though it was a lie on a question that should never have been asked of him). And now this. Interestingly, pubs and dems made more of a todo about Clinton, than they have about W..
Blinks. Blinks a lot more. I thought that I could be willfully blind. Do you know why most disliked Clinton's lie? It was a moral issue about a sex scandal. No one cared about how Clinton was running the government; they disliked his private life. Even Clinton supporters found it hard to support him on that. The best that they could do is say that it should never have been brought up and such. (Sort of like it's expected of all those high ranking politicians and they don't want to ever face that themselves...)
Now compare that with Bush. He "lied" to get his country into a war that we wanted to fight! Your average US citizen wanted to go to war with a Middle Eastern government. Iraq was the chosen target because the average US citizen vaguely recalls Iraq as the bad guy from that whole Desert Storm/Desert Shield bit. His lie was an excuse that we used because we as a freaking nation wanted to go to war over there. Be truthful. Bush would have been risking impeachment by not going to war in Iraq. Gore would have found himself forced to have a war over there for the same reasons. The lie just makes Bush the fall guy if we really want one. The truth is that the US nation wanted to have a war in Iraq. I can't blame Bush without also blaming the percentage of the country that was pissed over 9/11.
It's interesting that the folks who chant "Bush Lied!!!eleventy!!!" haven't responded to this post showing all the Democrats who also...ahem..."lied". What you've done is pointed out the timelines (many of these are from before Bush was elected, of course), with cited references to verifiable quotes. How unfair of you. Now the "Bush Lied" camp needs to ignore the facts you have inconveniently posted.