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Amazonian Tribe Has No Word To Express Numbers

In 2004 we discussed the Piraha, a tribe in the Amazon, when a study appeared characterizing their language as a "one, two, many" language. Now reader mu22le informs us of a new study of the Piraha pointing to the possibility that they use no number words at all. Instead they seem to use the word formerly thought to mean "two" to represent a quantity of 5 or 6, and the "one" word for anything from 1 to 4. The language has about 300 native speakers. "The study... offers evidence that number words are a concept invented by human cultures as they are needed, and not an inherent part of language, Gibson said."

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  1. English Language by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Funny

    Has no word to express.. uhhmm... forgot what it's called now.

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    1. Re:English Language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      1-4. Sell tribe new number words
      5-6. ....
      ???. Profit?

  2. Please forgive me for this one! by pimpimpim · · Score: 5, Funny

    ??? Have no words for numbers
    ???
    ???
    ??? Profit!

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  3. fantastic by jacquesm · · Score: 5, Funny

    then there's also no way to collect taxes. I should move...

    1. Re:fantastic by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

      You probably have to pay a little for every lot you made. With "little" and "lot" being defined by the guy who comes to get it, assisted by two large guys with mean looking clubs.

      You see, the world isn't so different after all.

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  4. Oblig. by dudeinthedark · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do they indicate successful termination of their C programs?

  5. Re:Without numbers... by ArmyOfAardvarks · · Score: 5, Funny

    The use the WingDings font.

  6. Link b0rked in summary by Von+Helmet · · Score: 5, Funny

    Should be "one, two, many"

    KDawson, you got a link to your own website wrong, on your own website. You n00b.

  7. Imperial system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I heard they have discovered that some ancient tribes in the world are still using imperial measurement. Hard to believe!

  8. Re:Without numbers... by pcaylor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's their assigned IPv4 network range:

    many.many.many.many/small

    They are nowhere using it up, so thankfully they have no plans to migrate to IPv6. (Which is a good thing because if I tried this joke with an IPv6 address, it would probably trigger the lameness filter.)

  9. Re:Meaning by hostyle · · Score: 5, Funny

    Too many?

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  10. Re:Few, many, Lots by otacon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sir I don't know where you do your trading, but I can get you 2 baskets of peas for 5 ears of corn.

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  11. This is nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Instead they seem to use the word formerly thought to mean "two" to represent a quantity of 5 or 6, and the "one" word for anything from 1 to 4.

    Bartenders and police officers in the US dealing with drunks are very familiar with this method of counting.

  12. But I can count my profit! by Llywelyn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lots!

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  13. Re:Not surprising. by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do we get to choose which particular English speakers we send there? I've started a list already (*mumblegrumble!@$Fskn*motherinlaw*).

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  14. Re:Hm... by clone53421 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...and they were first clued in on this number system when they asked how many people were in their tribe and the answer was "two"...

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  15. Re:Different skill sets needed by Miseph · · Score: 5, Funny

    It would also be funnier.

    "Take cover, the rookie is compiling his first code!"

    "We're all gonna die!"

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  16. Re:It's the "objects", stupid by hoggoth · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Boopai, the white men are coming. Remind the six Kaaxai sisters that it is forbidden to utter our sacred number words in front of the outsiders."
    "Yes, Pibaoi, I shall tell them. I will return in 36 minutes, approximately 5 minutes before the outsiders reach the village."
    "Good man, Boopai."

    "Oh, and Boopai, while you are there, get the 113 exchange-beads the sisters owe me from 3 months ago."
    "Yes, Pibaoi, I will."

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  17. Re:Different skill sets needed by Nerdposeur · · Score: 5, Funny

    No fee needed - it's under a Destructive Commons License. :)

  18. Re:Not surprising. by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I see nothing really wrong here. Where I live people routinely give non descriptive meaning to words as numbers. I'm learned not to try to figure it out but just accept it. I mean who really knows what the difference is between a ass-load and a shit-load. Or how much is really in a fuck ton.

    Just smile and nod, that's what I do.

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  19. Re:Different skill sets needed by mrogers · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nah, we'd just write everything in Perl. Pretty much any sequence of characters is a valid Perl program. Don't ask me what it does, but it's a valid program.

  20. Re:Not surprising. by PachmanP · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean who really knows what the difference is between a ass-load and a shit-load. Or how much is really in a fuck ton.

    Well, to be fair the fuck ton is defined in terms of shit-loads; the shit-load is defined in terms of an ass-load; and the ass-load is defined by a fecal mass stored in a hermetically sealed container in a vault in France. Finally, for reasons no one has found, the fecal mass is changing.

    Anyway my point is that unit confusion is not unreasonable in this case.

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