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Viacom Looks For Google Staff Uploads in YouTube Logs

Barence writes "Viacom wants to know which YouTube videos have been uploaded by members of Google's staff, in what could be a potentially explosive aspect of its copyright infringement claim against the search giant."

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  1. Good! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I dislike the action, it gives Google (and ever other major corporation) a reason to care about my privacy rights. Hate the means; love the ends.

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    Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
  2. Re:Pointless... by mark72005 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would someone download video clips with embedded ads if there were another source for the same clips without the ads?

    There's going to be a showdown here, because i don't think the internet ads model generates a lot of revenue. Naturally Viacom wants people watching their programs on TV only so they can keep ratings up and TV ad revenues up.

    I'm not a fan of Viacom's behavior either, but it seems strange to suggest that they would make more money that way.

  3. Re:Pointless... by pieterh · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, SouthParkStudios.com proves this. But Viacom is not interested in looking for new business models. They are looking to protect their existing business models, and YouTube hurts these.

    The thing is, it's not sharing clips that hurts Viacom's business. That probably helps, free publicity for programs.

    What hurts Viacom is user-generated content: eyeballs going to watch stuff that is produced totally outside the normal distribution model.

    So Viacom is not IMO trying to protect its copyrighted content. What it wants to do is scare people who use YouTube into thinking "my personal data ain't safe", to create a chilling effect that will stop user-created content.

    Imagine if Viacom had been infiltrated by Scientologists and they could now get access to logs of who uploaded, and who watched, videos by Anonymous. It's not likely but the mere idea this could happen will drive some people away, fracture the community, and make passive TV watching seem safer again.

    OTOH, Viacom, not being an Internet company, does not realize that this kind of attack on a community always has the exact opposite effect.

    So the result will be a hundred new video sharing sites, and a much more difficult situation for Viacom, both for copyright takedowns, and for competition to their programming.

  4. Re:common sense by OscarBlock · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think Google should check to see if any of Viacom's staff have been uploading videos while they are at it. Could be interesting...

  5. Re:Why a potentially explosive aspect? by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What I want to know is how many Viacom owned clips were uploaded by Viacom employees. I bet there were more uploaded by Viacom employees than Google employees.

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  6. Re:Right... by pin0chet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I agree that YouTube is an excellent way to popularize Viacom's content, but that's not the only business concern of relevance here.

    Viacom wants to use YouTube-esque short clips of its videos as a revenue source. And, if Google's employees are uploading infringing content, then YouTube may be actively hampering Viacom's ability to earn ad revenue from its original works. Comedy Central, for example, offers years of Daily Show, Colbert Report, and South Park clips that are supported by ads. YouTube is likely limiting Viacom's ability to capitalize on its intellectual property by substituting for Viacom's in-house video service. That is textbook copyright infringement.

  7. Re:Pointless... by pieterh · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Totally unscientific survey: my 4-year old daughter prefers to browse YouTube than television. Admittedly she tends to follow pop videos. But she prefers the mouse to the TV remote.

    If it's true that people use YouTube to watch clips from TV programs, then Viacom are even stupider than I thought...

    But stupid or not, this seems to be the start of the TV industry joining the music and movie and telecoms businesses in attacking the open Internet.

    I wonder what kind of Internet my daughter will have when she grows up.

  8. Re:Missing the point by danzona · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read TFA, and according to the article, the logic goes something like this:

    Viacom: YouTube shows our copyrighted material. Google, you own YouTube and a lot of money, give us some of your money or else.
    Google: Safe Harbor defense! Under the DMCA, we can't be held liable if somebody else posts copyrighted material on a site we host, if we don't know that these strangers are posting copyrighted material.

    So Viacom thinks that if they can show that Google employees knowing posted copyrighted materials to YouTube, then Google won't be covered by the Safe Harbor defense.

    This is what TFA says. I have no idea if that is what Viacom is actually doing, or if it would even work. But it is interesting.

  9. Re:Pointless... by jwriney · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder what kind of Internet my daughter will have when she grows up.

    Don't worry, it'll still have porn on it.

    --riney