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Fallout From the Fall of CAPTCHAs

An anonymous reader recommends Computerworld's look at the rise and fall of CAPTCHAs, and at some of the ways bad guys are leveraging broken CAPTCHAs to ply their evil trade. "CAPTCHA used to be an easy and useful way for Web administrators to authenticate users. Now it's an easy and useful way for malware authors and spammers to do their dirty work. By January 2008, Yahoo Mail's CAPTCHA had been cracked. Gmail was ripped open soon thereafter. Hotmail's top got popped in April. And then things got bad. There are now programs available online (no, we will not tell you where) that automate CAPTCHA attacks. You don't need to have any cracking skills. All you need is a desire to spread spam, make anonymous online attacks against your enemies, propagate malware or, in general, be an online jerk. And it's not just free e-mail sites that can be made to suffer..."

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  1. or Windows Specific. by twitter · · Score: 0, Funny

    There is irony, force people to use the platform that's responsible for botnets in the first place.

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    1. Re:or Windows Specific. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Fun fact, by replying to all his posts to call him an idiot you drastically increase his exposure. Ever hear of "don't feed the trolls"?

      Fun fact: by replying to all his posts to call him an idiot you drastically increase his exposure. Ever hear of "don't feed the trolls"?

      Fun fact: by replying to all his posts to call him an idiot you drastically increase his exposure. Ever hear of "don't feed the trolls"?

      Fun fact: by replying to all his posts to call him an idiot you drastically increase his exposure. Ever hear of "don't feed the trolls"?

    2. Re:or Windows Specific. by Deagol · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now, now gents... No more of this alt.cascade shit -- USENET is dead, remember?

  2. Re:Automate CAPTCHA attacks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm wrong

    Fixed.

  3. Re:Anyone usinging specialised tests? by jim.hansson · · Score: 3, Funny

    then you write a little program that will show nude pictures, if users identify pictures for you. do not underestimate the length some people will go to for seing mostly skin.

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  4. Re:Anyone usinging specialised tests? by AndGodSed · · Score: 3, Funny

    No.

    You see there is an ongoing war against the postmasters by the webmasters. I am a postmaster, and I get roughly 300ish spam mails per site.

    And the webmasters sit and chuckle. Bastards, they could make it stop!

    But they don't... animals...

  5. Re:Mix it up a bit? by jandrese · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't wait until someone's daughter tries to make an account on Barbie's Horse Talk website and is presented with the following CAPTCHA:

    Prove that a 3-manifold space has the additional property that each loop in the space can be continuously tightened to a point then it is just a three-dimensional sphere.

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  6. turing test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The first thing to actually pass the Turing test will probably be a spam-bot. Isn't that disgusting?

  7. Re:I wonder.. by Illbay · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nyet, but haf you conzidered ze amazing affordability uff zer timezhare at Lake Baikal? Operatorz iz schtanding by!

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  8. The Irony by techsoldaten · · Score: 4, Funny

    The irony about this is that a CAPTCHA is a Turing test, a form of authentication designed to prove that a human is making the request. Given that some CAPTCHAs are rapidly becoming too hard for people to read, the outcomes of the tests are reversed - humans cannot win the test, only computers.

    I have CAPTCHAs on my blog, but only deny posters who actually fill them in. Goes a long way to deterring spammers.

    M

  9. Re:Mix it up a bit? by QuantumRiff · · Score: 3, Funny

    You just eliminated one third of the US population from accessing your site..  Sad, isn't it.
    Now if you had said,
    What color of hair does the 3rd girl on the right have,
    A: green
    B: brown
    c: Blond
    D: I drive a ferrari, I don't care about hair color!
    you would only eliminate about one eighth

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  10. Re:fall of open email by TheLostSamurai · · Score: 5, Funny

    it is no wonder that the "under 25" crowd now says "myspace me" or "facebook me" and no longer use email. why would they?

    Whatever happened to giving someone your phone number and actually talking to them. I asked a girl for her number the other night and she gave me her myspace address. Thanks, but no thanks. At least make the effort and give me a fake phone number if you don't ever really want to talk to me again.

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  11. Re:Anyone usinging specialised tests? by Ortega-Starfire · · Score: 2, Funny

    Obviously the solution is to make porn free so that this is no longer an incentive. Obviously also this means that the government should subsidize it.

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  12. Make Them Write by linuxpyro · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've toyed with the idea of making users write a 500 word essay on a random topic. I would then send this to my high school English teacher, and if it got maybe a B or above I would consider it legit.

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  13. HOW DO YOU FEEL? __ by stupidflanders · · Score: 2, Funny
  14. Re:Anyone usinging specialised tests? by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2, Funny

    down
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    Now your captcha systems has been completely broken by my bots.

    Buy some Viagra! she screamed, as the thorny wisps of french looked upon dog. Finally, she embarked, with implacable wit.

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  15. Re:A dumb question: by Kingrames · · Score: 5, Funny

    Howcome /. is so spam free?

    You must be new here.

    and blind.

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  16. Re:Mix it up a bit? by beta21 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't wait until someone's daughter tries to make an account on Barbie's Horse Talk website and is presented with the following CAPTCHA:

    Prove that a 3-manifold space has the additional property that each loop in the space can be continuously tightened to a point then it is just a three-dimensional sphere.

    So thats why Grigori Perelman decided to solve that CAPTCHA.

  17. Re:Mix it up a bit? by Von+Helmet · · Score: 2, Funny

    Image recognition fails on two counts - perception and natural language. One man's ginger is another's man's strawberry blonde, and if you've ever looked women's hair dye you'll know that they have about 50 billion words for "brown".

  18. Time for the form... by fanha · · Score: 1, Funny

    your post advocates a

    (X) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante

    approach to fighting spam. your idea will not work. here is why it won't work. (one or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)

    ( ) spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
    ( ) mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
    (X) no one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
    (X) it is defenseless against brute force attacks
    (X) it will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
    ( ) users of email will not put up with it
    ( ) microsoft will not put up with it
    ( ) the police will not put up with it
    ( ) requires too much cooperation from spammers
    ( ) requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
    ( ) many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
    (X) spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
    ( ) anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business

    specifically, your plan fails to account for

    ( ) laws expressly prohibiting it
    ( ) lack of centrally controlling authority for email
    ( ) open relays in foreign countries
    ( ) ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
    ( ) asshats
    ( ) jurisdictional problems
    ( ) unpopularity of weird new taxes
    ( ) public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
    ( ) huge existing software investment in smtp
    ( ) susceptibility of protocols other than smtp to attack
    ( ) willingness of users to install os patches received by email
    (X) armies of worm riddled broadband-connected windows boxes
    (X) eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
    (X) extreme profitability of spam
    ( ) joe jobs and/or identity theft
    ( ) technically illiterate politicians
    ( ) extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
    ( ) dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
    ( ) bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
    ( ) outlook

    and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

    (X) ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical
    ( ) any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
    ( ) smtp headers should not be the subject of legislation
    ( ) blacklists suck
    ( ) whitelists suck
    ( ) we should be able to talk about viagra without being censored
    ( ) countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
    ( ) countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
    ( ) countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
    ( ) sending email should be free
    ( ) why should we have to trust you and your servers?
    ( ) incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
    ( ) feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
    (X) temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
    ( ) i don't want the government reading my email
    ( ) killing them that way is not slow and painful enough

    furthermore, this is what i think about you:

    (X) sorry dude, but i don't think it would work.
    (X) this is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
    ( ) nice try, assh0le! i'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!

  19. Re:Anyone usinging specialised tests? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    what is the third word of this sentence?

    No, its the first.

  20. Re:Mix it up a bit? by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 3, Funny

    And I can't wait until someone's daughter answers back:

    This can be shown by (...200 pages of brilliant mathematics ommitted...)

    Q.E.D.

    Now, SHOW ME THE F*CKING PONIES!!!!

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  21. What we should use... by sionide21 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Is logic puzzles. "You are in a room with three guards, one of these guards always lies, one of them always tells the truth, and one of them lets you register this email address. Who do you ask?" Let's see a computer solve that!

  22. Re:Anyone usinging specialised tests? by hobbit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your "random but light noise" idea intrigues me, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Have you also considered using alphanumeric symbols instead of pictures of cats and dogs?

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