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Software, Tools, Or Techniques For UI Review?

Comatose51 writes "Does the Slashdot crowd know of any software, tools, or even techniques for reviewing the UI of an application? Right now at our company this is a long and arduous task of looking at slide after slide of pages and menus from our UI, and taking notes and arguing over what should go where or how the UI elements should behave and interact with the user. It takes many, many hours to do this and with all our UI developers involved, it adds up. This has to be a common and recurring problem so there must be a better way to do this. If there is open source software to help, great, but any helpful suggestion would be appreciated."

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  1. Well, there's your problem. by AltGrendel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...and with all our UI developers involved, it adds up...

    Too many cooks, as it were.

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  2. Ask the users. by oahazmatt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not a programmer, but I'd still like to offer my opinion.

    Ask the users. The people who will be using this software have certain expectations about where something should and should not be located.

    Of course, that should not be the end-all of your research, but it should be an excellent starting point.

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    1. Re:Ask the users. by hardie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Absolutely ask the users. There is no better way of evaluating your UI.

      Have your programmers watch users try the UI. Don't lead the witness--let them make mistakes (and fix that part of the UI).

      You will be surprised what you learn.

      Steve

    2. Re:Ask the users. by Jupiter+Jones · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You know what's better than asking the users?

      Not asking the user.

      What you really should do is watch the user. If you ask them, they'll tell you what they think they'd do, or what they think you want to hear, or what they think they'd like to see... everything except what is most important: what they really do.

      (And I'm not the only one who thinks so.)

      JJ

  3. Apple Human Interface Guidelines by Foofoobar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Perhaps the most comprehensive guide out there. Not a GUI but if you want a GUI, use Xcode. http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGIntro/chapter_1_section_1.html

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    1. Re:Apple Human Interface Guidelines by vimm · · Score: 5, Funny

      The layout of that webpage makes my left eye twitch.. however it was very intuitive and easy to use, and suddenly I crave IPHONE I MUST HAVE IT

  4. Paper Prototyping by mpapet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_prototyping

    Now, that may not actually address the problem. UI fights are intractable with **everyone** having an opinion and more than willing to resort to all kinds of dishonorable methods of getting their way.

    The next step of the process should be interviewing as many paying users as possible, face to face, paper and pencil ready. From those interviews see if you can find some similarities and go from there.

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  5. Just Use It by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing beats using it.

    Years ago in my tech startup days, I remember spending hours just using our about-to-launch web application, doing my best to break it. Things are a bit different when you're not web-based, but doing this on a variety of computers is still a good way to find bugs, note slowdowns, discover any issues with running it concurrently with other software, etc. This is also a nice (and sometimes fun) way to involve ALL of your staff -- not just IT -- because there's going to be a wider variety of user experience levels there.

    1. Re:Just Use It by sm62704 · · Score: 5, Informative

      useit.com, Jacob Nielson's site. Everyone having anything to do with interface design should read the whole thing.

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  6. CUA/CUI specs by RobertM1968 · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are CUA guidelines for various operating systems. You can check out that documentation to determine where what components/options you have should be placed. They are pretty thorough.

    IBM's was written in 1987, and updated since (and followed for the most part in the Windows and OS/2 world).

    Microsoft's has of course recently changed with the advent of Vista and related v2007 programs.

    For broadest use, I would choose the specs used in later versions of Windows for Windows based apps... for Linux, I am not sure where you would check - but am sure some sort of guidelines should exist someplace.

    A place with links and references to IBM's CUA can be found here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_User_Access

    From there, or with similar searches, you can find references for related Windows CUA stuff

  7. Uh... by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not sure what you're getting at. If your action listeners are screwed up, that's an obvious problem with a straightforward solution, but if your UI just plain sucks, no program is going to tell you that.

    You need to go find someone with aesthetic sense, and a minimum of technical knowledge, and you need to shut up and listen to them whine as they use your UI. When you've fixed enough stuff that they stop whining, bring in a couple more and listen to them whine. Eventually they won't whine, and at that point, you'll know you've got a good interface.

    For gods sake though, don't get a fricking committee involved! They will all want to make a trivial change to put their mark on it, and all those changes will turn your unpolished interface into the sort of steaming crapheap that wouldn't meet the basic user-friendliness of the interface on a piece of stereo equipment.

    So yea; get the users involved, distill their complaints, make changes, NO COMMITTEES. And the simpler the better. I should write a UI testing program that just runs for 10 minutes and then pops up, "Your interface has too many buttons. Simplify it please." The interface can almost always be simpler.

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  8. Joel Spolsky's writings by Stormwave0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    While it's not a tool, Joel Spolsky has written a long and detailed series of articles on how to correctly design a user interface. It's worth your time to check it out, even if it doesn't speed things up.

    Here's the first chapter

  9. Well I heard Microsoft... by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    used the number of mouse clicks to perform any given task as the metric to determine if Office 2007 had a good UI. It seems the impact of that choice is debatable.

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  10. Re:Guerilla user testing by Tragek · · Score: 4, Informative

    And an app designed to help: http://silverbackapp.com/

  11. Usability Engineering anyone? by Light303 · · Score: 4, Informative

    i habe been reading /. for quite a time now and never read the word "usability" ever. (i think most FOSS guys also never heard of it)

    Interface Usability is a whole science. There are plenty of books describing exactly what you are trying to reinvent!

    For a start you might want to check out Jakob Nielsen's Alterbox Website, which is full of small articles regarding common usability problems.

    http://www.useit.com/alertbox/ ... and if you like his style of writing you might also want to buy his book "Usability Engineering" (which is a must-have when you work in the field of usability IMHO)

  12. Re:Well, there's your problem. by matrix+mechanic · · Score: 5, Informative

    Also, for all your developers, do you have a designer? UI development = graphic design + industrial/interaction design. Read Magic Ink: Information Software and the Graphical Interface

  13. Re:Well, there's your problem. by LaskoVortex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also, for all your developers, do you have a designer? UI development = graphic design + industrial/interaction design.

    There is also the little concept of actually using the software. Here is my plan that I wish every corporation would adopt for near perfect design:

    • Write application.
    • Give to CEO of company to use for day-to-day tasks (make him use it every day or get a new CEO)
    • Fix everything he hates and add what he wants
    • Repeat until he goes about one month without any suggestions or complaints

    Of course this is from a user's perspective and from someone who writes software for myself. Profit may get in the way of a usable product, so I don't expect my plan to get adopted everywhere.

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  14. Simple is often best by viking80 · · Score: 4, Informative

    1. Define what the software should do
    2. Make the UI, even a mockup will do
    3. Invite users to test drive the UI while video taping
    (See (1) and ask the user to do each one(with no help))
    4. Measure the users success (clicks, wrong clicks etc)
    5. Score each screen with the predefined metric from (1) filled inn in (4)

    Done.

    Often the real problem is that nobody really knows (1): what the software should do. Marketing thinks it is "one click purchase" and engineering thinks it is "fully configurable shopping view". So agree on 1 first, and maybe your problems go away.

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  15. Re:Well, there's your problem. by belmolis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is good advice for many consumer products but not for all software since some software is intended for users of whom the CEO is probably not representative. Software for technical people, for example, may trade a longer learning curve for greater efficiency or configurability for experienced users, and software for some tasks assume specialized knowledge of the task that most people won't have.

    Good luck finding a CEO who will let you fire him if he doesn't test your software.

  16. You need an expert by rossz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If your UI has gone beyond the most basic of interfaces, you need to hire someone who has a background in "human factors". Expecting a bunch of programmers to design a good user interface is a very bad idea. Just look at all the crappy interfaces in the open source world.

    Hoping for a program to automate this is as likely as getting your own pet unicorn.

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  17. UI Development != graphic design by ProppaT · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not in the least. Lord no. Perhaps have them polish up and make things look pretty after the UI is decided upon, sure, but leave the UI design to people with a background in it. That's the equivelant of telling a baker to to cook you a steak. They might both make food, but the thought process is totally different.

    If you have a technical writer working on the project, give him/her a shot at it. Their job is to make the complex simple and to make it fit in as small of a container as possible. They'll also be the ones writing the manual on the stupid thing and, more often than not, many design flaws come out in the process of writing the manual. You'd be surprised what kind of input they might have.

    Other than that, do you have a corporate psychologist or HR person with a background in psychology? They might also have valuable insight.

    Other than that, as far as viewing the UI for a review, have someone make a mock up, clickable UI in Flash or even HTML. It shouldn't take long and will give you a good idea of what the user experience before it's all coded in.

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  18. Re:Well, there's your problem. by electrictroy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Give the program to the average secretary & watch where she stumbles or otherwise looks confused.

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  19. Re:Well, there's your problem. by KillerBob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think his point was more that the best way to design a user interface is to let the users actually... y'know... use it. Throw it out to a small but select non-developper beta, and take their suggestions about usability to heart.

    A group of engineers sitting around, arguing about what should be where is just going to obfuscate things, and unless they get really lucky, it isn't going to result in something that's usable. Also... keep in mind the idea that nothing should be more than 3 clicks away, unless it's obscure. More than that, and users won't remember it. If it's something that they use frequently, it should be 1 click away. All about keeping the application efficient, but not cluttered.

    My first thought, when I read TFS, was that he's out to lunch. He's looking for software to accomplish a task that, to my mind, should be a completely organic process. You can't write software to design your user interface for you, because people don't think like computers. You need to go through revisions and iterations until you get something that works. Oh, and sitting around watching slides is absolutely the wrong way to get a feel for how it's going to work, too. They should be presented with the actual user interface, or a mock-up if that's not possible, and actually go use it for a few days before coming back and talking about what was good and what was bad, and what needed improvement. And keep doing that until enough people are happy that you'd be comfortable unleashing it on the world.

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