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NASA "Bed Rest" Contractor Blogs the Days

Arguendo writes "It seems that earning $5000 a month for bed rest as a NASA contractor may not be so enjoyable after all. A 38 year-old woman selected for the study is blogging about her experience as test subject for NASA's study about the long-term effects of microgravity on people. There's quite a bit of information on her page, including info about the screening process, the food options [.xls link], and the not-so-great days of testing and immobility. It definitely sounds like work."

60 comments

  1. Stay immobile and eat all day? by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    NASA owes most slashdotters a whole lot of money!

    1. Re:Stay immobile and eat all day? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

      You forget about wrist action.

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    2. Re:Stay immobile and eat all day? by martin_henry · · Score: 3, Funny

      So immobile now
      In bed my body will stay
      Head in Blogosphere

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    3. Re:Stay immobile and eat all day? by b4thyme · · Score: 1

      Is it bad that before reading the article I thought, hmm, that wouldn't be too bad if I could play WoW all day. WoW was then mentioned several times in TFA.

    4. Re:Stay immobile and eat all day? by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

      Did you read her blog(and see her picture)? You could be bedridden with her 24/7 and all you can think about is playing WoW?!

  2. Just need to learn to live "in the moment" by oldspewey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm thinking meditation practice would be extremely helpful in this situation (and by extension also for long-term space travel) ... since there is nothing you can do to alter your current (sucky) situation, you just need to be at peace with it and experience it moment by moment.

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    1. Re:Just need to learn to live "in the moment" by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or you could just play world of warcraft. Shame about the ping times though.

    2. Re:Just need to learn to live "in the moment" by dashesy · · Score: 1

      "Best rest" is best only if Nikol Kidman accompanies you in sleeping , forget about food or what? meditation?

    3. Re:Just need to learn to live "in the moment" by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I just don't see any version of reality in which you share a bed with Nikol Kidman. Best that can probably be arranged is something more along the lines of Nico Bellic. Interested?

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    4. Re:Just need to learn to live "in the moment" by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

      At around 20min each way only on line games that you will be able to play are TBS ones.

    5. Re:Just need to learn to live "in the moment" by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      Well, I'll go ahead and say I have only skimmed RTFA, but it seems to me that:

      1. I'm not sure if the biggest problem is mental. I mean, if she can blog from that bed, it seems to me like there's plenty you can do with a computer to keep yourself entertained. And in a space capsule/station/colony-ship, I'd assume there is stuff to do.

      2. She complains about actual physical problems resulting from staying in that position for days. In her own words:

      was lucky to have only a few, namely the BACKACHE on days 2-3. Everyone responds differently, but lower back pain is a constant. It's tempting to stick with shallow breaths, because deep, diaphragmatic breathing... HURTS. Curling foetally helps us get to sleep when we need to, and we can have Tylenol at this stage. Rolling from side to side alleviates it for short periods, but the days seemed slooow. My new best friend was my heating pad -- in fact, if anyone had tried to take it from me, they'd have lost a hand. I've heard stories of some extreme cases of past subjects having bad acid reflux or vomiting, so I'm eating slowly and chewing more, since I definitely don't want either of those. With the feet higher than the head, digestion is distinctly altered, so the dieticians drop our caloric intake.

      Those sound like real and very painful problems, not something you can just meditate away. Learning to live in the present is good and fine, but the pain and damage to your body are real.

      I mean, geesh, reading that even breathing hurts, doesn't sound like fun at all.

      Anyway, generally, when it comes to pain, learning to just live with it (by will power, meditation, or taking a ton of painkillers) is just about the dumbest thing one can do. Pain is body telling you that something is awfully wrong, and (potentially serious) damage may occur. Ignoring that warning isn't something you'll thank yourself about later.

      If your back says it hurts more in this or that position, then move right away, don't just ignore it. Some shifted vertebrae or disks because you ignored it, can get you anywhere between a looong time of pain later and outright severed nerves and paralysis.

      There are, of course, exceptions, but as a fallible rule of thumb, it's a good start. If it hurts, don't ignore it, don't just learn to live with it.

      3. If you want a personal anecdote about what I read there, bad acid reflux is painful by itself. And can even put a nasty wound in your esophagus if it's constantly subjected to acid. Remember, your stomach is made to deal with having acid in it, the rest of your body is just the kind of flesh that that acid is supposed to dissolve and break up.

      But pray that it never goes up your esophagus, and back down the other pipe, to your lungs. I've had the personal mis-fortune of experiencing that once, and it's a very very horrible experience.

      So, again, it's something I'd take very seriously, not learn to live with the present.

      Now that's at least somewhat less likely to happen if their head is lower than their lungs (again, according to TFA) but I'm not sure it's outright impossible. But other problems are just as possible, and some even due to that position.

      Anyway, again, you don't want to be at peace with whatever happens to you, in a passive way. You want to react to it when and where it happens. You'll want to wake up when you feel an acid reflux, and be at least partially in control over which way it goes.

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    6. Re:Just need to learn to live "in the moment" by Abreu · · Score: 1

      At around 20min each way only on line games that you will be able to play are TBS ones.

      Or play-by-post roleplaying games

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    7. Re:Just need to learn to live "in the moment" by oldspewey · · Score: 1

      Those sound like real and very painful problems, not something you can just meditate away. Learning to live in the present is good and fine, but the pain and damage to your body are real. I mean, geesh, reading that even breathing hurts, doesn't sound like fun at all.

      But if she's under constant medical supervision, then the "damage to your body" part of the equation has been removed from her control. She is voluntarily taking part in a controlled experiment and has chosen to place her long term welfare in the hands of others.

      Under these circumstances, her very best bet is to "meditate the pain away" (something that is entirely possible), because lying there agonizing about it will only make it worse, compounding psychological pain on top of physical pain.

      Anyway, again, you don't want to be at peace with whatever happens to you, in a passive way. You want to react to it when and where it happens.

      If she believes she is harming herself and it's not worth $5k/month then she should end the experiment. Otherwise, she should be at peace with whatever happens to her, in a passive way. Reacting will compound her misery.

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    8. Re:Just need to learn to live "in the moment" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck that. Give me a bag o weed and my laptop. I'll get started on coding all that shit I've been meaning to get around to.

    9. Re:Just need to learn to live "in the moment" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Second.

  3. Food Options Bad? Huh? by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, I haven't tasted the food that they list but the menu options honestly don't sound that bad. While I am a capable cook, we typically rotate the same meals throughout every two weeks. What they were offering looked like a great and varied selection.

    Perhaps the immobility is what's making this person grumpy about everything else?

    1. Re:Food Options Bad? Huh? by stoolpigeon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the thing that makes it tough above all else, at least by her accounts, is the chronic pain. That would make anyone cranky.

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  4. I would hate this by Wiarumas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would hate this. I already feel "bleh" from sitting at a desk for 40+ hours a week. As much as I'd like to lay around and play video games, I know my body would hate it.

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    1. Re:I would hate this by gblackwo · · Score: 1

      What no hamster wheel in there?

    2. Re:I would hate this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because they need to conserve energy.

  5. Re:Ahhh by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    You have a typo on line 132.

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  6. Stuck in a bed for months = torture by Badmovies · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I sustained a serious eye injury when I was about 12 that required me to stay in bed, on my back - only on my back, not my side - for a month. The injured eye was covered with a bandage. I could not read, watch TV, or do anything that might cause the eye to be used (apparently the covered eye would move in unison with the uninjured one if I read or watched TV).

    So, except for necessary restroom breaks, and a short bath every 2 or 3 days, I was stuck in that bed with just a radio for entertainment. It was not pleasant. Even less pleasant because Falco's "Rock Me Amadeus" was the big hit at the time. That song still causes an unpleasant Pavlov reaction over two decades later.

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    1. Re:Stuck in a bed for months = torture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      what you start salivating?

    2. Re:Stuck in a bed for months = torture by Puffy+Director+Pants · · Score: 1

      I was in the hospital myself for about that length of time, and I really really begged to get out. Getting home, I began to feel much much better.

    3. Re:Stuck in a bed for months = torture by oldspewey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm not at all surprised to read about your experience. Similar research was done in which patients had far worse complaints.

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    4. Re:Stuck in a bed for months = torture by mackil · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of Al from the second season of the Mole. He has to stay in a room all night, on a bed with no mattress, while Tiny Bubbles played over and over again.

      But then, for 5 grand a month? I would do it in a heartbeat

    5. Re:Stuck in a bed for months = torture by PCPackrat · · Score: 1

      So how did they keep your eyes immobilized during REM sleep? Something just isn't right.

    6. Re:Stuck in a bed for months = torture by hkz · · Score: 1

      amaDEUS amaDEUS!

    7. Re:Stuck in a bed for months = torture by A440Hz · · Score: 1

      Did you just Falc-roll him?

    8. Re:Stuck in a bed for months = torture by COMON$ · · Score: 1
      Here is the problem with the scenario. THe human body will grow accustomed to it's environment. But what they are doing here is taking a very active person and distressing them by changing their lifestye completely. They seriously need to consider the MMORG player, the body is accustomed to low activity environments and can stay quite comfortable for a long period of time that way.

      Or is there something wrong with this idea?

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    9. Re:Stuck in a bed for months = torture by Badmovies · · Score: 1

      [quote]
      So how did they keep your eyes immobilized during REM sleep? Something just isn't right.
      [quote]

      Afraid that I do not have a good answer for you there. I can only tell you what I had to do for that month. I did get drops a few times a day, and I do not know exactly what they did. The doctor's visits were bad, because I was strapped into some sort of head vise and my eye pressed into what felt like a metal cup. Not a lot of fun for a 12 year old.

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    10. Re:Stuck in a bed for months = torture by Badmovies · · Score: 1

      Ha! Like Ian McDonald's bit in the story "The Days of Solomon Gursky" that angry teenagers made for the best pilots in attack spacecraft. There's also another story by Poul Anderson, "The Saturn Game," that deals with astronauts becoming very involved in an RPG they spin between themselves to pass the time.

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  7. McSweeney's by olclops · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There was another guy that was doing a similar study about a year ago. He made a big deal about how he was going to keep a journal and post them on McSweeneys.net. He started out really excited, and then day by day, the posts got more and more terse and depressing. Until finally they just stopped. Only two weeks in. Never heard how that turned out. But it was enough to convince me to never, ever volunteer for a study like that.

    1. Re:McSweeney's by Lilo-x · · Score: 0, Insightful

      sounds like most bloggers :)

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  8. Re:Ahhh by gardenwall2 · · Score: 1

    Nah, he's just further along in the study!

  9. Googlestalked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Here's her Flickr account. I assume the ceiling tiles are from the Galveston research center. I have to say, in general, the food sure doesn't look terribly appetizing, but for some reason, food rarely looks appetizing in photos (which is why lots of marketing photos for food are actually photos of non-food things that look like food, like painted paste, wax, etc).

  10. If I read this. . . by Slicebo · · Score: 1

    . . .I won't have to get out of my comfy chair, will I?

  11. Stop complaining! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where else can an attractive young lady make that much money just by lying on her back?

  12. paid to eat peanut butter for two months by peter303 · · Score: 1

    At our college there were studies where students were paid to eat a completely controlled diet for two months. These were experiments to what happened if you completely eliminated one component from the diet, like an amino acid. The food was tubs of flavored paste, much like penaut butter. I'd people would go mad after a few weeks. I wonder how they prevented cheating.

    1. Re:paid to eat peanut butter for two months by caluml · · Score: 1

      I'd people would go mad after a few weeks.

      I'd they would too.

  13. Erm, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm new here, someone please explain?

    1. Re:Erm, huh? by Ironchew · · Score: 1, Funny

      1. Don't RTFA. Most of them link to ads anyway.
      2. Hone your troll-dom to a fine art.
      3. Tell people they're absolutely wrong, no matter what the subject material is.
      4. ???
      5. Profit!

  14. Only so far.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm thinking meditation practice would be extremely helpful in this situation (and by extension also for long-term space travel) ... since there is nothing you can do to alter your current (sucky) situation, you just need to be at peace with it and experience it moment by moment.

    Buddhist Monks are quite active during the day: cooking, cleaning, tending temple, chores, etc... I think even they would have a problem being completely immobile for long periods.

    Contrary to what the New Age types and many American Buddhists think, meditation doesn't make you super human.

  15. I'm sure nobody expected this answer by sconeu · · Score: 1

    Only for the Spanish Inquisition!

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  16. FAKE! by JCSoRocks · · Score: 1

    Guys, guys, guys, it's obvious this was all just done on a movie set or something. The shadows are all weird and where'd that wind come from? The blog entries are just there to help trick you into believing all of it.

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  17. science.slashdot.org by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Shouldn't this be in science.slashdot.org, not idle?

    1. Re:science.slashdot.org by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe they're trying to be funny? 'cause, you know, she's idle.

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  18. Seen the Movie by fm6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It definitely sounds like work.

    I'm reminded of a movie by my favorite Spanish director. In Talk to Her, two actresses spend most of the movie pretending to be in a coma. Sounds easy, right? But Almadovar claims its the hardest kind of acting there is.

  19. you sly bastard by Bananatree3 · · Score: 1

    How dare you pull a fast one this scarred human being?

  20. Credit check? WTF? by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Criminal, residency & credit checks came back clean.

    Why the hell do they need to do a credit check?

  21. Re:Credit check? WTF? by arbitraryaardvark · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why the hell do they need to do a credit check?

      I'm not sure. Maybe they want to avoid people doing the study and meanwhile sending spam or posting dupes to slashdot or other stuff that might not reflect well on NASA.
      Maybe, based on the their experience, a clean credit record is correlated usefully with being able to do the study successfully.
      I applied for this study and didn't get in. My blood sugar was a little high they did the blood test. I do studies like this for a living, although none of them pay as well as the NASA one. Info at jalr.org, just another lab rat dot org.

  22. Nightmarish! by thesandtiger · · Score: 1

    A couple of years ago I had surgery that required me to stay in bed for 5 days without getting up at all. I couldn't even roll over onto my stomach, so I had to lie flat, sort of on my side, or propped up a little bit.

    Hellish is a term that I would use to describe it, even though I had ample access to morphine and other drugs.

    $5000 a month isn't NEARLY enough.

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  23. Someone shut down NASA already by billcopc · · Score: 1

    Yeah, I get that they're studying the body for possible space travel trauma, but who the hell cares ? The way things are going down here on Earth, we probably won't survive long enough to colonize anywhere else. We're too busy killing each other over fabricated issues of money, religion or ideology. We may dream of a Star Trek reality where humans explore the galaxy discovering allies everywhere they go, but the truth is that we're angry little shits and the only think we'll do in space is look for someone new to hate, pillage and murder.

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    1. Re:Someone shut down NASA already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it amazing how far humanity has survived and progressed in spite of what you are saying, which has happened at least since recorded history? I'm sure we can survive with our fabrications, whether we head towards a Star-Trek utopia is another question.

  24. Re:Credit check? WTF? by Jstlook · · Score: 1

    Criminal, residency & credit checks came back clean.

    Why the hell do they need to do a credit check?

    To prevent guys with baseball bats from interrupting the experiment, obviously.

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  25. I had a similar experience by fatmal · · Score: 1

    After pushing my femur through the back of my hip socket I was in traction for 3 months. It is absolute hell staying in bed for that long (aside from the nurses giving bed baths!).

    The worst thing was that I wasn't actually sick, I just couldn't get up and walk around - actually I didn't walk around for quite a while, but at least I could hobble!

    1. Re:I had a similar experience by thedistrict · · Score: 1

      Oh man..that's bad. I don't know if I could be off my feet for that long without going crazy.

  26. NASA Beware by lazy+genes · · Score: 0

    When a person is deprived from its ability to estimate time properly the results may not be good. The Windago is a mythical creature that lives deep in the northern woods of northern Minnesota. The stories of those who have seen this entity are all the same. It makes me wonder if there is a hidden human response that is triggered when the mind cant estimate time properly.