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Effective Optical Disc Repair?

CyberKnet writes "I have an extensive music collection on original CD media. While most of it is in impeccable condition, I have a few discs that have suffered extensive scratching through listening to the disc either via a portable disc player, or in a car CD stacker. I've long since learned the error of my old ways and don't listen to discs in those devices any more, but those discs are irreplaceable in many cases. I would very much like to be able to repair them or have them repaired to original condition, or at least well enough that I can pull the tracks off once and archive the track data. I have heard really uncomplimentary things about devices like the Skip Doctor; ranging from it not helping to it making things worse. I've heard great things about JFJ devices that are seen on the counters of most Hollywood and BlockBuster video stores, but even their consumer devices start at $250. I would appreciate any other suggestions for devices that people have had personal experience with that won't break the bank."

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  1. cdparanoia by oyenstikker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Clean the disk well and rip it with cdparanoia.

    If legal in your location, replace bad tracks with copies from elsewhere.

    Burn to new CD.

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    1. Re:cdparanoia by David+Gerard · · Score: 4, Informative

      Try ripping it with both cdparanoia and with Exact Audio Copy (Windows freeware that works well under Wine). Stuff that won't rip in one will often rip in the other.

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    2. Re:cdparanoia by pitchpipe · · Score: 5, Funny

      Burn to new CD.

      No need! This is the absolute GREATEST optical disk repair device that I've found! It'll even repair cracked disks!

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    3. Re:cdparanoia by orielbean · · Score: 5, Funny

      You know when your disk repair tool is measured in horsepower, you are ready to rock.

    4. Re:cdparanoia by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Informative

      I can vouch for EAC. I've had discs that wouldn't play at all, but I got a complete perfect copy off them using EAC. You may need to be patient though... I had one that took almost 22 hours to complete the rip, with the drive ripping 50 minutes out of every hour and a 10 minute cool-down period to prevent overheating. Can't vouch for it working under WINE though, haven't tried...

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    5. Re:cdparanoia by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can learn more than you ever wanted to know about ripping discs from the guys at Chris Myden/UberNet. Not that I would ever have anything to do with such a network, that being illegal and such.

      http://www.chrismyden.com/uber/

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  2. Toothpaste by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Get toothpaste. NOT GEL, but regular white paste. Get a small cloth, put a dab on it, then rub it from the center to the outside in straight lines going outwards around the whole disk. When you're done, clean it off and pat it dry. Disk will look like hell, but it'll work.

    I have rescued lord knows how many CDs with this technique, including console ones that were completely screwed, and even resurrected a dead DVD-RW just this past weekend using this technique.

    1. Re:Toothpaste by David+Gerard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The way this works, by the way, is that white toothpaste contains fuller's earth, which is a very mild abrasive. This polishes the disk back to readability.

      Use this as your last resort, only when EAC and cdparanoia have both failed.

      Note also: if you hold the disk up to the light and see lots of pinholes ... the aluminium layer's fucked and you haven't a hope. I dunno if you can repaint an aluminium layer ...

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    2. Re:Toothpaste by Inda · · Score: 5, Funny

      1. Take a power drill, make sure the hammer action is off.
      2. Place the CD on the chuck, tighten the chuck around a bolt and washer to keep it in place.
      3. Clamp the drill in a bench vice.
      4. Spin the CD at 30,000rpm
      5. Hold an oily rag against the CD and polish away.

      Disclaimer: I typed this message with two fingers.

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  3. NOVUS plastic polish by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 5, Informative

    Have had good luck using this stuff, a piece of chamois, and some elbow grease. Good on all kinds of plastics, not just CDs/DVDs.

    http://www.amazon.com/Novus-Polish-Plastic-Scratch-Remover/dp/B000B4Q9Y6

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  4. Blow Torch, Seriously by michaelepley · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Make a few quick, gentle passes over the recorded side(s) with a common butane blow torch, of the plumbing variety. The heat slightly melts the polycarbonate plastic, causing most scratches to get filled in, and other sharp edges to be smoothed & making reading easier. Tips: 1) don't overdo it, or the plastic might warp, 2) doesn't work well with recorded media (CD-Rs), 3) first practice a couple of times with media you don't mind losing.

    1. Re:Blow Torch, Seriously by David+Gerard · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's gotta be some sort of Extreme Sports of disk recovery ...

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    2. Re:Blow Torch, Seriously by Lucas.Langa · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Gentle passes of a butane blow torch" sounds like some serious goth poetry volume title ;)

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  5. Easy by Thelasko · · Score: 4, Informative

    Toothpaste, or Brasso. I hear Brasso works the best.

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  6. I've got a $5 solution.. by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 5, Informative

    Get a $5 tub of Mother's Metal Polish. It'll take out scratches in any plastic as long as you use a cotton or microfiber cloth.

    It's also handy if you get a gimp DVD from NetFlix/Blockbuster and don't feel like waiting for a replacement.

    Typically, you can buff down the worst of gashes in less than a minute. If you can't, then the $250 device probably wouldn't have worked either.

    Since there's no way you'll use the whole tub on CDs or DVDs, you can use the rest to pretty up your silverware, brass stuff, and rub rust off things you don't feel safe using steel wool on.

    1. Re:I've got a $5 solution.. by Taibhsear · · Score: 5, Informative

      Since there's no way you'll use the whole tub on CDs or DVDs, you can use the rest to pretty up your silverware, brass stuff, and rub rust off things you don't feel safe using steel wool on.

      This is probably off topic but I felt compelled to reply, never buff your silver. There's a super easy trick that companies don't want you to know. (IAAC) Get a container big enough for your silverware. Put aluminum foil in it, put the silver on top of it, fill with boiling water, sprinkle baking soda on top. The tarnished parts of the silver will disappear. It's an oxidation reduction reaction. Every atom of the silver will remain and it only removes the tarnish. No worry about scratches or wearing down the metal. I shine all my/my gf's/my family's silver jewelry and utensils this way. It only takes a few seconds.

    2. Re:I've got a $5 solution.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      As a fine jeweler, I must say that you pose an interesting solution. However, I don't think that the reaction with aluminum is going to help you, the wearer, much. After putting the jewelry back on, you can still leave aluminum oxide all over your skin, which is very much an irritant.

      Also, some of the stones you put in there will absolutely turn to crap if you try that. Don't do it with aquamarines, emeralds, opals, coral, turquoise, or any other soft stone.

  7. Just a note by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Informative

    If anyone recommends a home remedy (like toothpaste or baking soda paste), I would try it first on one of your not-so-irreplaceable discs.

    Otherwise, you may be *very* unhappy with the results (like if you use a "whitening" toothpaste, or if your tecnhique sucks).

    Reminds of an A-Team episode where someone (Murdoch?) tells Mr. T to clean his gold jewelry by putting it in the microwave. Mr. T was not amused with the results, to say the least.

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  8. Slide case cover to left by pagewalker · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if that works on 3.5" floppies...

    Of course, 3.5" floppies are in cases, so I'll have to just squeeze the toothpaste into the case, and then use the disk drive to spread it out over the surface of the disk.

    It might be worth it just for the tech support call.

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  9. Family Video by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My local family video will resurface the disks with their professional grade JFJ for a few dollars. If you only have a dozen or so that need to be done that might be the cheapest, safest, and easiest way to get your disks back.

  10. Record Stores by arthurpaliden · · Score: 4, Informative

    Find a store that sells used albums and CDs they will most likely have this service. This is what I do.

  11. Re:Define Irreplacable by Xzzy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Local artists that only ran a few thousand copies, and are no longer producing music?

    That's how it worked before the internet, CD's or tapes was all they had for distribution and once those were gone, the band may as well never have existed.

    I know I've got a dozen or so discs from the early 90's that fit that description, and I treat them better than I do myself. ;)

  12. Ask the record company/RIAA to replace it by krbvroc1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since you only license the material and do not own it, they should be able to replace the media for a nominal fee.

  13. Re:Not Toothpaste by weirdcrashingnoises · · Score: 5, Funny

    thats not toothpaste...

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  14. Re:Toothepaste by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, the abrasive in toothpaste can help to polish out the scratches, but really (especially as these are valuable/irreplaceable discs) you should just get it done professionally.

    I can't vouch for any particular company, but Googling "disc resurfacing service" turns up plenty of fairly economical options. There's no point spending a few hundred on a professional resurfacing machine, nor is there in risking doing it yourself with toothpaste or metal polish and a microfibre cloth, when you can pay a couple of dollars a disc and have them done by someone who knows what they're doing in a machine that probably cost a thousand or more.

  15. How to fix optical media by stmfreak · · Score: 4, Informative

    We have kids, so I've seen a LOT of this between the movies, Xbox games, CDs, etc. I tried the commercial dr-fix-it products and found they were weak at best and only useful for removing the faintest of scratches.

    What I did, which carries some risk (with great power...) was go to my local Home Depot/Lowes and purchase:

    * bench grinder ($35)
    * buffing wheels, high/low density ($20)
    * plastic rouge paste ($5)
    * plastic polish paste ($5)

    After putting the buffing wheels on the grinder, I took one of my worst discs which was scratched beyond belief. I think the kids left it on a table covered with sand and then sat on it and moved it about.

    Anyway, start with the low-density pad and some plastic polish. Only buff a section for one or two seconds at a time, keep rotating the disc. Make the buffer scrub from center to the outside edge. If the low-density doesn't work, try the high-density pad. Put the plastic polish/rouge stick against the wheel for a second and then work the disc around.

    Once you think you've gotten the worst of the scratches out, finish off with the low-density wheel and the plastic polish. Wipe clean with a soft cloth and water if necessary.

    I've restored 50 or 60 games and movies this way. Takes 5 - 20 minutes depending on damage.

    WARNING: push too hard or move too slowly and the surface of the polycarbonate will overheat and TEAR. You cannot fix a torn surface, that disc is now trash.

    Good luck.

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  16. Iron Filings, Magnetism, and the Floppy Problem by pagewalker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Perhaps I should sprinkle iron filings into the toothpaste prior to applying it to the floppy. Magnets work well on iron filings, so I know they'll work well with a magnetic medium.

    I suppose the iron-toothpaste mix could get stuck in the floppy drive, but I can just pull it with a big electromagnet, like the ones they use to lift shipping containers.

    Then I will be able to read the floppy disks quite well. A happy ending! :)

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  17. Re:Frist post? by Pope · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, those analog CDs really hold the waveform better than the digital ones, man.

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  18. Re:Not Toothpaste by bennomatic · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm such a nerd. I immediately thought of this as a Star Wars reference: "This is not the toothpaste you're looking for..." I was wondering how this might be considered funny, and then...

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  19. Ask the RIAA by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They keep arguing that we're buying a license to the music. As such, since the medium they have delivered this to you is obviously flawed (cannot stand up to a reasonable amount of use), they should be obliged to replacing the medium with a new one at their cost. Right?

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  20. I store backup copies of all my CDs on eMule by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whenever I need a fresh copy I just download one.

    Some of the kind people out there even make a second backup copy for me and store it in BitTorrent format. I don't know their names but thanks!

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