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NASA Spends $25M On Unmanned Planes, Awards Aviation Prizes

An anonymous reader points out a NetworkWorld story about NASA's purchase of two unmanned aircraft for use in "observing remote locations of Earth not feasible or practical with piloted aircraft." The planes are Northrop Grumman Global Hawks, and NASA selected them for their extreme range and the fact that most other unmanned vehicles don't have the FAA's approval for regular use over the US. NASA also distributed prizes for its General Aviation Challenge this weekend. The goals of the challenge include improving fuel efficiency in aviation, reducing emissions, and aircraft safety. None of the teams were able to achieve the $50,000 prize for managing 30 miles per gallon, but the top team was able to complete the 400-mile course at 28.8 miles per gallon.

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  1. Hyper mailing and tailgating by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait until the drones start hypermiling and catching the draft of passing jets.
    Then we will see MPG figures increase.

    Of course someone with a honda will just tape wings onto their car and beat it hands down, but they tend to be frowned upon.

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    liqbase :: faster than paper
    1. Re:Hyper mailing and tailgating by Fumus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why not just use imperial gallons and watch as the MPG skyrockets.

  2. Re:Oil independence by rossdee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    MPG doesn't really matter if you're not going anywhere. The Global Hawk is a loitering type of reconnaissance plane, not a fly-over-as-fast-as-you-can type like the SR71. What matters is the gallons per hour, not the miles per gallon.

  3. Odd by hcdejong · · Score: 3, Interesting

    None of the four planes entered won the $50,000 prize; the best attempt achieved 28.8 miles per gallon.

    versus

    The "Prius of airplanes," the 100-horsepower-engine Pipistrel typically can go as fast as 170 mph and get 50 miles to the gallon.

    So wasn't the Pipistrel Viper entered in the mileage competition, and why not if it'd have easily won?

    1. Re:Odd by SimonGhent · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Pipistrel won $250,000 from NASA last year http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9758741-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20/

      And in TFA:

      One of the biggest prizes it granted was $50,000 for aircraft safety to the lone returning competitor, the Slovenian-built Pipistrel known as Virus. The plane, which was the big winner at the 2007 event, had added such precautions as a cabin integrated with Kevlar and an installed ballistic parachute system, or a deployable rocket that would launch a parachute 100 feet above the plane in the event of an emergency

      But in answer to your question (again from TFA!):

      The Pipistrel, for example, used a carbon-fiber propeller on its aircraft this year to reduce its noise by at least 10 percent, but that shift cut the plane's fuel-efficiency by as much as 50 percent.

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      simon
  4. Will these innovations ever be adopted? by hcdejong · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The general aviation industry has advanced at a glacial pace ever since WW2, and it got worse with the excesses of litigation that almost put the GA manufacturers out of business. Electronic fuel injection is still regarded as newfangled and unproven, for instance.
    I know there are reasons for this (basically, developing an all-new engine that conforms to the safety standards can't be afforded the industry), but the end result is that any innovation seen in this competition will be viewed with deep distrust by the GA industry, and in 10 years, non-experimental GA planes will still be no more advanced than they are today.

    1. Re:Will these innovations ever be adopted? by SunBug · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm a general aviation pilot and would LOVE to have a fuel-injected engine. More power, better reliability, better fuel economy, smoother running, and one less control to monitor.

      One big problem with EFI is how to handle total loss of the electrical system. As it stands now, you can lose the alternator, the battery, and one magneto and still fly. Same with mechanical (Bendix systems) injection. However, with the mechanical systems, you don't gain a whole lot. There is still a mixture control- they basically act as a glorified carburetor.

      With EFI, if you lose the alternator and the battery goes dead, the engine stops. An additional alternator and battery could be installed to mitigate most of the risk. Same for the coils. You could even keep a magneto as a fallback if the coil dies.

      Really, the biggest opposition to modernizing GA is the government and all the red tape involved. It would fairly easily cost millions of dollars to just get an EFI system certified on ONE make/model. Even if you targeted the Cessna 172 with the Lycoming O320, the cost would be prohibitive. As just a guess, it would cost $30-45 thousand per installation- close to the cost of a complete new engine with mechanical fuel injection. Not really a viable option.

      There was a program a few years ago call the General Aviation Propulsion engine (GAP). It was supposed to reduce the cost and increase the reliability of GA propulsion. Last I read the project was "considered a success" and disappeared. Seems like a shame, really.