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The US Swim Team's Secret Weapon, Science

Hugh Pickens writes "When American Swimmer Margaret Hoelzer goes for the gold tonight in the 200-meter backstroke, part of her success will be due to a new system developed by Tim Wei, a mechanical and aerospace engineer at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, that uses fluid dynamics to study human movement allowing scientists and coaches to study how fast and hard a swimmer pushes the water as he moves through it. 'Wei uses a tracking technique called digital particle image velocimetry, commonly used to measure the flow of small particles around an airplane or small fish or crustaceans in water.' Wei filtered compressed air in a scuba tank through a porous hose to create bubbles about a tenth of a millimeter in diameter. When an athlete swims through a sheet of bubbles that rises from the pool floor, a camera captures their flow around the swimmer's body and the images show the direction and speed of the bubbles, which Wei then translates into the swimmer's thrust using software that he wrote."

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  1. Sexism by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Funny
    From TFS:

    "When American Swimmer Margaret Hoelzer goes for the gold tonight in the 200-meter backstroke..."
    "...to study how fast and hard a swimmer pushes the water as he moves through it."

    I'm Margaret Hoelzer, you insensitive sexist swimsuit-designing clods!

    1. Re:Sexism by DeadDecoy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can you really fault them, most slashdotters have never seen a woman before.

    2. Re:Sexism by rehtonAesoohC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What you've referred to is called a misplaced modifier, and it occurs when the wrong noun or pronoun is referred to as the precursor to a verb.

      For instance, note the following sentence: "I walked down the street, saw a boy and a bike, and he was walking quickly." In this example, the sentence attempts to reference the boy, but actually references the bike. The original statement is grammatically correct.

      I'm an English teacher you insensitive clod!

    3. Re:Sexism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'll ambiguously define your antecedent!

  2. Changing is easier said then done. by BitterOldGUy · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Swim coach Sean Hutchison, who put two athletes on the Olympic swim team, says that he used Wei's insights as the basis for every technical change he made with swimmers leading up to the Olympic trials and games this year.

    After doing something for years and years, changing the way you do something, whether it's a swimming stroke or tennis or golf swing, isn't done instantly. It takes quite a bit of concerted effort and attention to change it. I'd be really interested in how and what the coach does to get the swimmers to change.

    I've witnessed swimmers in college that have bad habits that they gained as youth and they can't seam to shake them.

    1. Re:Changing is easier said then done. by Crispy+Critters · · Score: 5, Interesting
      That depends. I remember reading about Natalie Coughlin four years ago, and one of the coaches was describing how Natalie could take a suggestion and instantly integrate it into her swim style, even in a competition. I believe that ability was seen as unique.

      It is plausible that adaptability is one trait that helped the Olympic swimmers become Olympic swimmers in the first place. Certainly it would be interesting to hear more about it.

    2. Re:Changing is easier said then done. by ckthorp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Have you watched the Olympic athletes who have competed in Dancing with the Stars? When it comes to taking direction and altering their physical performance in a short period of time, they're absolutely awe-inspiring. If you're an Olympic athlete, you better be able to quickly make major changes based on either computerized or human coaching instructions. It's like watching a professional actor rapidly portray a half dozen different personae.

    3. Re:Changing is easier said then done. by Original+Replica · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have to wonder if Olympic swimmers know their sport so well, as to be able to be consciously aware of all the tiny little adjustments that help make the difference. I know that the more cycling I do the more aware I am of my pedal cadence and how smooth (or not) my pedal stroke is. An Olympics swimmer spends so much time thinking about their swimming I should hope that they can consciously add finesse where novices like me have trouble not swallowing pool water every fourth stroke.

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    4. Re:Changing is easier said then done. by Alomex · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've witnessed swimmers in college that have bad habits that they gained as youth and they can't seam to shake them.

      About twenty years ago, famous golf swing coach Butch Harmon saw Tiger at a day camp for kids. At the end of the day he knew Tiger would be famous one day but not because of the way he hit the ball. It was because of the way he took direction and coaching advice. Butch said that over the years he had seen quite a few kids hit the ball better than Tiger, but none so eagerly seek advice and apply it on the field as Tiger did.

  3. It's not just technique by Solandri · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not just better technique and the new suit. The pool is also designed to reduce waves to help lower times. A lot of the wave dissipation features described in the article have been used in tow tanks (where we tow model ships to measure their drag) for decades.

    1. Re:It's not just technique by Anpheus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't buy into journalists and others grasping at straws here. They couldn't find anything different about the pool, so they start reaching for things that would be obvious to anyone who watched swimming four years ago or has ever seen a swimming event. Extra lanes? Common. Wave-dissipating buoy lines? Common. Extra depth? Eh, not so much, but I know my school's pool is more than 2 meters in depth and it's considered OK.

      I think what you're seeing is natural, both the sportsmen and women are better than ever, and the swimsuits are better than ever. Result: world records falling left and right.

      I'd like to see the NBC and other groups congratulate Phelps rather than talk about fluff stories like how it's such a fast pool. If it's so fast, and it's not that Phelps is simply the fastest swimmer, then, well, all the other swimmers should be racing for first rather than second.

    2. Re:It's not just technique by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Everyone has known about this for years and I'm not quite sure why it's suddenly news now. There are plenty of pools out there that have 10+ lanes (in college we had 10+ lanes and we swam in the deep end of the pool for SCY races). It really seems like most of the discussions about the reasons for the WRs falling are more or less just to fill the time that the announcers have between events.

      I realize that the general public doesn't understand how pools, suits, and training methods have evolved over the last 15 years but it's seriously not news worthy IMO. US Swimming is just trying to get people to pay attention to how cool swimming is so that they get the most out of the "Olympic Cycle". The "Olympic Cycle" is the phenomenon that occurs following every Olympic year where swim teams see a upswing in the number of youngsters trying out for swim teams because of all the coverage ("ohh, Mommy, I want to be Michael Phelps/Natalie Coughlin/Hall Jr/Krazelburg/Dolan/etc too!")

      Another flash in the pan caused by mass media dumbing everything down to a mostly unaware public. Move along.

  4. Re:Interpretation? by BitterOldGUy · · Score: 5, Informative
    Hydrodynamics comes into also. So it's not just power but also how well they move through the water. Efficiency.

    I have much more power than any of the girls, well most of them, on the US Team, but in the water, they'll blow my doors off because of better technique - the ability to apply their power in the water. That's the best I can do. It's been a while since I read my swim coaching stuff.

  5. Hmm... I have a correction to the title by rehtonAesoohC · · Score: 5, Funny

    The US Swim Team's Secret Weapon: Michael Phelps.

    Though that's not very secret. Sort of like Victoria's.

    1. Re:Hmm... I have a correction to the title by Xoltri · · Score: 5, Funny

      OK we get it, he's good at swimming. Does there really need to be so many swimming events? Why don't they have 10 different softball events? You could have ones where everyone gets one arm tied behind their backs. Or one where they all have to run backwards. Another where they hop around the field with potato sacs on their legs. Or have a runner at each base and they have to do it relay style. It doesn't make any sense!

      It's event pollution. See: http://www.realmansolympics.com/

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    2. Re:Hmm... I have a correction to the title by ThomasFlip · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed. People need to stop gawking at how many medals he's winning. They represent winning events that vary little in terms of training and skill. Now if somebody won a gold in cycling and long distance running, THAT would be a real accomplishment.

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  6. Swimmer gender issues by spineboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I dunno - if you've seen some of the female swimmers, then it's not hard to make that mistake.

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  7. Re:Olympic research by Born2bwire · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think you mean lasers.

  8. It's not just American athletes that are faster by iamghetto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Everyone is faster in the pool. I watched a race where even the 5th place finisher came in above the old world record time.

    Just read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/12/sports/olympics/12records.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

    Over above whatever the swimmers are using, the pool itself is engineered to create faster times. Everything from the lane dividers, to the wall of the pool, to the extra meter of depth are meant to dissipate turbulence in the water and increase times.

  9. Re:The secret science is wrong by icegreentea · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And his body. He's like a dolphin. His proportions are perfect for swimming. And then he's double jointed in his ankles, elbows, shoulders AND chest. His armspan is 10cm greater than his height. All he needs now are gills.

  10. science? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought our *three* weapons were fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll post again.

  11. Re:Related research on the dolphin kick Phelps use by hkgroove · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That's why you can only dolphin kick for 15 meters now.

    In 25 yard pools during backstroke it was easier to dolphin kick and swim 8 yards with the last 2 dedicated to the turn.

    As for swimming underwater: Most sprinters in the 50m freestyle don't take a breath during the race. In short course (25m pool) 50m races I maybe took one breath on the way back - depends how much air I released during my turn. If I swam at the right speed I could get about 75m before needing to come up and take another breath. But this was far from racing speed.

  12. Re:China is using science too by garcia · · Score: 4, Informative

    For example, the rowing team was sent to go train in Tibet because there it is at a high altitude. At high altitudes there is less oxygen so it trains the athletes' body to use oxygen more effectively.

    Yet another item that's been known forever. That's nothing more than fluff. US Swimming's Olympic Training Center for swimming is located isn't located in Colorado Springs because it's an exciting town you know. I swam there for a few days before HS Nationals in 1997 before the meet which took place at the Air Force Academy. They were trying to get us prepped for swimming at altitude because, as the words placed in tiles on the wall said something like, "7,258 feet -- the air is rare"

    I learned many of the underwater techniques used by the current greats which were developed while I was at the peak of my performance in HS. It wasn't Michael Phelps or this new scientist suddenly creating the underwater dolphin work you see now. In the mid 1990s (into the late 1990s when it was limited to 15m) you could go as far as you wanted underwater for every event (backstroke fell first to 15m and then the rest soon followed). Misty Hyman was one of the pioneers along with Denis Pankratov and they turned on their sides (much like Coughlin still does) to take the best advantage of the swirls of water that are created as you move through it.

    As I posted above, this is all not new technology and it's not worth even talking about now 10-15 years after it was developed.

  13. Re:Problems with slashdot...is it just me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, it's not just you.

    The original slashdot page layout and comment threading system was junk. It was obviously "designed" at 3:00 in the morning after a mushroom and hash party in Taco's dorm room. They would fix it, but nobody at slashdot understands how it works.

    The recent v2.0 slashdot page layout and comment threading system is also junk. It was obviously "designed" at 3:00 in the afternoon after a martini and coke lunch at an expensive steak house. They would fix it, but nobody at slashdot understands that it sucks.

  14. There's nothing that special about the pool by snowwrestler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is engineered to reduce turbulence but no more than other top-level pools around the world. Pools with 10 lanes, slop gutters to eat waves, and greater then 2m depth are not unheard of. Besides, while plenty of world records are being beaten at these Olympics, plenty were also beaten before the Olympics...in the last year or two many world records have gone down at other events. Before each race NBC puts up a listing of the current world record for that event. Take a look--many are dated 2006 or 2007; some date back a few more years, but none are very old.

    We happen to be in a period of dramatic change in swimming right now, and there are probably a number of reasons. If you want to point to just one, it is probably that there is a lot more money in the sport now. So Michael Phelps could afford, through endorsements and grants, to train at a full-time professional level since he was an early teen. This has huge implications for his technique, fitness, health, and mental toughness for competition.

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  15. Faster lap times due to ... by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...being chased. By sharks. With lasers.

    The high diving competitions are the result of releasing the shark and playing the video of the swimmer leaping out of the pool backwards.

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  16. Re:Maybe they're just more adaptive by dbcad7 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Pro golfers often take lessons almost as if they were beginners.. It's easy for a golfer to develop bad habits and relearning the proper techniques is what makes them good.. Most amateur golfers perhaps take lessons when first learning the game, and that's it.. If you learned the game, and played every day without any further instruction you would play fairly well, but if you retake lessons occasionally and play every day you will get so much better.

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  17. Chinese Quality control by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Funny

    Everyone is faster in the pool.

    Yes, they probably didn't level it right and they are all getting a downhill advantage.

  18. Re:The secret science is wrong by ToastBusters · · Score: 5, Funny

    And his body. He's like a dolphin. His proportions are perfect for swimming. And then he's double jointed in his ankles, elbows, shoulders AND chest. His armspan is 10cm greater than his height. All he needs now are gills.

    Dolphins have gills?