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Linux Not Supported For Democratic Convention Video

bucketoftruth writes "If you browse to the Democratic Convention website and attempt to check out any of their upcoming streams, you bump into the following limitation: 'We're sorry, but the Democratic Convention video web site isn't compatible with your operating system and/or browser. Please try again on a computer with the following Compatible operating systems: Windows XP SP2, Windows Vista, or a Mac with Tiger (OS 10.4) or Leopard (OS 10.5). Compatible browsers: Internet Explorer (version 6 or later), Firefox (version 2), or, if you are on a Mac, Safari (version 3.1) also works.'"

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  1. Furthermore by eclectro · · Score: 5, Informative

    Biden his VP choice is against net neutrality

    I think Obama has lost his mojo.

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    1. Re:Furthermore by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Obama lost his mojo two months ago.

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  2. Re:User agent by KingArthur10 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It requires Silverlight. If you spoof the agent string, it asks you to install both Silverlight and Move Network's media player plug-in.

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  3. Re:So what? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Informative

    It says you have to install Silverlight to see it.

    I hate to say it, but Flash has existed, and been a viable option, for long before Silverlight, and it's got a far greater install base. Why'd they choose Silverlight over Flash?

    I'm sure there are valid reasons, I'd just like to hear them.

    Does silverlight for linux exist?

    Short answer: Yes.

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  4. I'm watching it on xine right now by gambolt · · Score: 5, Informative
  5. use this with VLC by jaredmauch · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:use this with VLC by AM088 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Except it's the no-sound version. With a little guesswork, I was able to figure out the right one:

      http://cnn-cnnlive-2-primary.wm.llnwd.net/cnn_cnnlive_1_primary?MSWMExt=.asf

  6. Email Time by markdavis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Rather than everyone speculating WHY they chose to use such an annoying setup and complaining here, let's just all Email them and let them know we are not happy and why. I did (not that I even WANT to watch the video). Doesn't take long.

    Here is the Email address: info@demconvention.com

  7. Re:What's a better option? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's Flash, Silverlight, QuickTime, RealPlayer, and Windows Media Player to choose from.

    I'd suggest h.264 in an mp4 container. Quicktime will play it, Media Player should play it, and Linux (totem/kaffeine/xine/etc) will play it.

    Flash is the known quantity -- it works on Linux, just not very well.

    But I think pretty much all of the ones you suggested are a better choice than Silverlight, in its current state.

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  8. Flamebait? It's true! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sheesh, we even had a story about McCain's tech platform (once he finally formulated one).

    It specifically says that he believes in protecting children from porn and the RIAA's War on Sharing, but NOT 'prescriptive' legislation like Net Neutrality.

  9. Re:So what? by WatFiv · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why'd they choose Silverlight over Flash?

    For *live* streaming, I suspect that it's far cheaper to set up a bunch of Windows Media servers than it is to set up a bunch of Flash servers.

    Flash Streaming Server licenses are *extremely* expensive. There are open-source alternatives, but so far as I know none of them are very good at handling thousands (or tens of thousands) of simultaneous connections.

    Windows Media servers, however, are just regular ol' Windows servers -- couple hundred dollars per box with no user limits, and they do quite well with heavy loads.

    Unless Adobe manages to compete better on pricing, or unless some of the open-source alternatives get better at scaling to thousands of users, then I bet we'll see more and more developers pushing Silverlight without Microsoft having to pay them to do anything.

    And note that I'm talking about *live* streaming, not streaming prerecorded stuff like YouTube.

  10. But the server runs RedHat by symbolset · · Score: 4, Informative

    Netcraft confirms it.

    I can't believe you guys didn't notice this yet. You're slipping.

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  11. Re:Doesn't matter to me by openldev · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, JohnMcCain.com uses Flash for video, and I can watch it fine on my Linux box. (To be fair, so does BarakObama.com.) Regardless, the site uses Silverlight, which is a bit ridiculous. Flash has been around for years, and works on most computers that you need video. Not that I care what they're saying anyway ...

  12. Re:So what? by Nutria · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ever try exporting messages from Thunderbird to anything else? I'm trying to do it right now, and oh yeah...

    Tbird stores email as the text mbox format. Just copy/ftp the file. No problem!

    Still, you've got to be a geek to know that. But as a /. reader, you are supposed to be a geek and therefore know how Tbird stores email.

    At least in any MS product that I've ever seen, there's ALWAYS an option to export data out as a lowest common denominator

    Outlook gives you the "opportunity" to export emails as tab- or comma-delimited files. What app, besides Outlook, knows how to import tab- or comma-delimited email files????

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  13. Re:Doesn't matter to me by dougisfunny · · Score: 5, Informative

    If I recall correctly, he was the head of the commerce committee that was in charge of the network neutrality bill being pushed through a couple years back.

    The guy was in charge of regulating the internet. And called the internet a series of tubes.

    I don't even know what analogy to come up with in comparison. Car analogies are welcome ;)

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  14. Re:Doesn't matter to me by WarJolt · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think considering his experience he has an idea of what Linux is.
    http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/cbcd3a48-4b0e-4864-8be1-d04561c132ea.htm

  15. Re:OS Related? by NorQue · · Score: 4, Informative

    It somewhat works on Linux, but it has issues. Search the Ubuntu Forums for "firefox flash crash" and you'll know what I mean. I currently can't watch Flash without Firefox crashing. After the crash it works fine for ~one-two Videos, then it will crash again inevitably. Also crashes on any other Flash content, like navigation elements. Without a Session Manager (using the one from TabMixPlus) and NoScript browsing would be unbearable.

    From what I gathered at the Ubuntu Forums this is an issue with Flash 9 and PulseAudio, hopefuly it will be fixed with Ubuntu 8.10.

    So, Flash works on Linux, but not very good, and especially not very good on one of the major Linux distributions.