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Terror Watchlist "Crippled By Technical Flaws"
I Don't Believe in Imaginary Property writes "The database used by the government to generate lists like the No-Fly List is 'crippled by technical flaws,' according to the chairman of a House technology oversight subcommittee. And the upgrade may be worse than the original. Rep. Brad Miller (D-NC) says that 'if actually deployed, [the upgrade] will leave our country more vulnerable than the existing yet flawed system in operation today.' It seems that the current database doesn't have any easy way to do plain-text matching, forcing users to enter SQL queries. That might not sound so bad until you learn that the database contains 463 poorly indexed tables. How long until there's a terrorist named Robert'); DROP DATABASE; —?"
That's what happens when your interview questions are a political loyalty test.
The grass is only greener, if you don't take care of your own lawn.
The amount of people they want to include on their "t3rr0rz l1zt" it'll only be a matter of time before we have
Osama Bin CREATE INDEX;
and
Saddam OPTIMIZE TABLE;
Then everything will be hunk dory again.
to code an exploit that automatically populates tables in the watchlist with entries from the TSA employee database wins.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Exactly. The No Fly List is useless because it contains an estimated 1,000,000+ names (really, 1 million terrorists we can't track down?). It's useless because it contains generic entries such as T. Kennedy, which doesn't refer to a person but an alias once used in a crime (Tater Salad might be in there too). It's useless because even once they bomb a terrorist into tiny pieces his name is still on the list (sry, can't rememer who). Not only that, but the list is used for political dissidents too, not just terrorists or dangerous criminals. Apparently Nelson Mandela was on the list, until the fact was embarrasingly publicized and he was finally removed.
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For those interested: the size of the terror watchlist compared to US cities and States.
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Actually, I'd be pretty cool with banning 5-year-olds from planes.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Since he flew a lot for work, the unfortunate consequence was being FULLY searched EVERY time he went through the airport. He finally called up the TSA once and told them, "How about I just come into your office. If I am your man, ARREST ME! If I'm not, then get me off of this list!" to which they responded, "I'm sorry sir, but it doesn't work that way."
All in all, it took him over 3 years to finally get his name off. I think the criteria for being on the terror watch list are pretty well summed up here:
-If you have the same name, initials or hair color as a felon, you're on the list.
-If you've ever lived withing a 5 mile radius of a felon, you're on the list.
-If you've ever flown on an airline that a terrorist has ever attacked before, you're on the list. and finally.
-If airport security is bored, you're on the list.
Any thoughts?
"Thank you for using Stop-n-Drop, America's favorite suicide booth since 2008"
But hey, it's not that bad! After all, since all terrorists use their real names when flying, it is sure to catch them all.
Ever wonder why no suicide bomber has been able to strike twice? It's because of the no-fly-list, I tell you!
One could wonder whether the project was set up to adress terrorism OR it was setup to generate media-attention ?
It was both and then some.
I'm trying to find the link of the guy who started this BS. It was a private citizen who, IIRC, was the one who was involved with Choicepoint. He wrote some code and his algorithm pulled up most of the 9/11 hijackers and then some. He had some false positives even then, but it was the Government's wet dream and it solved some of their problems (such as that pesky little Constitutional problem of spying on Americans. It's OK if a private company does it -Choicepoint.) and it makes great security theater and it creates some big fat Governemtn contracts for some big fat cats with Government connections.
Need more caffeine and I'm getting tons of false hits from Google trying to find the cite - it is over 7 years old, ya know.
I just put you on the list.
Apparently Nelson Mandela was on the list, until the fact was embarrasingly publicized and he was finally removed.
So, easy solution - if you don't want to be bothered by the no fly list then change your name to Nelson Mandela...
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My uncle had a similar experience to your relative when he was returning from Jamaica (he was there for his anniversary). He had the exact name (middle too) of a wanted felon and was detained in customs for hours before they finally figured out he was from the other side of the country as his evil name-twin. As he pointed out at the time, "If I was the person they were looking for, would I be quite so stupid as to travel under my real name with genuine IDs in my name?" It's not like the guy was just "suspected"...he was pretty much a known criminal/fugitive.
The Mythbusters disproved the "hole in the plane causes explosive decompression" myth.
From http://mythbustersresults.com/episode10 :
So you could theoretically have armed people on the plane shooting at terrorists and not causing huge problems if they miss. (Well, except for passengers that get in the way.)
I think the best solution is to lock the pilot's door before boarding. Then the pilots are instructed to not open the door under any circumstances. If terrorists threaten to kill passengers, the pilots are to land the plane and won't be held accountable for any deaths that result. After all, giving into the demands to open the door and turn over control of the plane could mean the death of all on board as well as people on the ground. The pilot's door should also be bullet-proof (in case a weapon is smuggled on board).
El Al does this (in addition to other security measures) and they haven't had a single hijacking even though they're a huge target.
My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
-If you have the same name, initials or hair color as a felon, you're on the list.
-If you've ever lived withing a 5 mile radius of a felon, you're on the list.
Any thoughts?
It takes more than just being a felon.
I have a felony conviction (non-violent). I've flown 3 times since being discharged from parole and haven't run into any difficulties at the airports.
There are many different types of felonies. Many felons are, indeed, very very bad people. However, I personally know several convicted felons who I would trust to babysit my children, or loan money to. Most of the people I know in that category got their felony convictions as a result of substance abuse issues and have since cleaned up their act.
Just wanted to point out that having a felony conviction doesn't necessarily mean somebody is an evil person.
One could wonder whether the project was set up to adress terrorism OR it was setup to generate media-attention ?
I work at an airport, in administration, and trust me when I say this has very little to do with dark political conspiracies, and a lot to do with the government's haste to show they were "doing something" after 9/11. This project was quickly rushed into service, and has been widely reviled by airports and airport police departments across the country. And other similar measures... the current background check process for giving access to secured areas, and the very creation of TSA itself, were all measures to reassure the public that something was getting done. The problem is that government enterprises like these tend to become bipartisan boondoggles, with every state and major city wanting a piece of the political and funding action these things entail. Federal agencies tend to become monsters that need to justify their own existence by constant growth. TSA in particular is quickly becoming a large federal law enforcement agency, not just a baggage security team. When they were first set up, several of their nascent teams moved and basically tried to take control of several airports... I know of one major southern airport where they simply showed up one day, declared that a series of offices now belonged to them, and when the airport director came down to see what was going on, they tried to have him arrested by his own police force for "violating federal facilities". Anyone that works with AAAE members (airport execs group) knows what incident I'm talking about.
Did you know that TSA will now be issued police-like blue uniforms, with metal badges, just like cops? Airport police and the metropolitan police departments that supplement them just looooove that, and there's the inevitable talk of actually giving said TSA agents firearms. Unlike some other police departments, TSA agents are being encouraged to wear their uniforms and badges in their spare time, in order to enhance the agency's "visibility" to the public. There are already jokes that TSA SWAT teams are inevitable at airports. The problem is, the laughter doesn't last very long when we realize that the way things are going, that might not be a joke so much as a prediction of the future.
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After all, since all terrorists use their real names when flying, it is sure to catch them all.
The irony of your post is that most of the perpetrators of recent terrorist attacks in the West had valid ID and were, in many cases, citizens of the country they attacked. Even with all the intrusive surveillance, vast databases and draconian security measures, they still got through, just by keeping a low profile until they were ready to attack. Which tells you exactly how much measures like the list we're talking about are actually worth in practice...
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
My co-workers 2 year old Daughter was on the list. It took 4 years to get her name removed.
It must have been her evil plot to drop a bomb in her diaper.
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This airline is sounding better and better. Kill switches to blow it up in midair, marines to put passengers in their place. I can see someone running with this idea and making a fortune, and to think we were part of the thread that first hatched the idea.
My addition to this would be that to ensure the safety of people on the ground the planes in this hypothetical airline shouldn't be allowed to actually take off, but should instead hug the ground throughout the flight, perhaps on some sort of stabilizing rail, or a magnetic hover track. We might even build a system for running these planes across North America.