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User Charged With Taking ISP Tech Hostage

User AttheCoalFac pointed us to an interesting tech support story from Canada. Halifax actress and playwright Carol Sinclair was arrested and is now facing criminal charges after a repairman says she threatened to hold him hostage until he fixed her Internet connection. Mrs. Sinclair denies the allegations and says that she merely stated, 'I don't want to hold you hostage, but would you mind hanging around until the other technician arrives so that the two of you can sort it out.' She was arraigned in Halifax Provincial Court Friday and is now free on conditions including that she have no contact with the repairman or any employee from her ISP. Having a lot of experience on both sides of this issue, I'm not sure who I'm cheering for.

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  1. Seems to me by jaxtherat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    this is just a case of a disgruntled customer's remarks being taken WAY out of context.

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    1. Re:Seems to me by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      there are 3 versions of the truth here, her version his version and what really happened.

      That would imply that all three are true. I prefer the B5 variation: "Understanding is a three-edged sword. Your side, their side and the truth."

      Of course sometimes it is just a matter of perception and all are equally "true" in that sense, but most of the time not...

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    2. Re:Seems to me by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      #4 can get you shot. You can't claim they started it if you're dead with a pair of scissors in your cold dead fingers.

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  2. Typo by kenh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That should read "Threatened to take him hostage (is not the same as) Taking him hostage - the title is misleading. I had a less than and greater than that were scrubbed out of the final posting - sorry.

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  3. Nothing to see here by Ignis+Flatus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just a retarded employee with a completely artless grasp of language. Public education sucks. Get over it. Move along, please.

  4. It's a figure of speech by Skapare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a figure of speech ... "I hate to hold you hostage, but ...". That is said in a lot of contexts. If things went down as this story claims, then the ISP tech didn't understand and just blew it all out of proportion.

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  5. Re:Not Sure Who To Believe by Caraig · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're entirely correct, of course. There's not enough information in TFA to say one way or another. Heck, even if it goes to trial, it's literally 'he said, she said.'

    Not finding a gun is a major piece of evidence in favor of the playwright, true. Although I've known people who will use threats like that without anything whatsoever to back it up, if they thought they could get away with it; but I'm not getting that vibe. Fortunately, the trial will not be decided on vibes. =)

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  6. Physical restraint? by FooGoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did she physically prevent him from leaving? Did he even try to leave? If not he should be buried up to his neck and be pelted with muffin fans from 20 paces.

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  7. Re:What was wrong with her pc? by Annoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No doubt there are companies that do computer work. But she would have had to PAY them.
    People don't expect that they might have to actually pay someone to fix their computers after they frak them up.

  8. Re:What was wrong with her pc? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They didn't know what was wrong with her internet connection / computer from what I can tell. "There's something wrong with your computer" was just a way to make her go away.

     

    It's sad really all real geeks should love solving problems, but I've worked with loads of people who'll spout some excuse like that even before the customer has explained what's happening. What's even worse is that they do it in a such an obvious way that even non technical people can tell it's bullshit. And it's not like they do anything else instead of work, they just spend a bit more time in idle mode than people who actually try to fix stuff.

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  9. Re:My sympathies lie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Your policy is nothing more then a bullshit cover your companies legal ass policy. If someone actually threatens another person, the law supersedes any company rules and the situation is what it is. The policy is just so later in court the employee can't sue the company saying he was forced to be in that situation or he's lose his job.

    Now for your sympathies, as the tech being a person, I can sympathize with him as his customers won't know what they are doing and are going to be upset before he gets to the door so it is a shitty job in that regard, but looking at him as just a tech person, screw him. The company has created a situation where it take multiple calls and requests for the tech to be sent in the first place and the phone support offers nothing other then it's your computer with no direction for assistance since the customers keeps calling back for help.

    If tech support was actually anything other then an expense that companies try to minimize, it might actually be useful to people and the whole situation wouldn't even have occurred to begin with.

    I know her computer is completely screwed and probably has more viruses then the local hooker but someone from support needs to be able to say more then "Everything is fine on this end, it must be your computer." If someone could explain what she needs to do, and I mean during call one (1) things would be different.

    I think there is too much expectation from a customer to be knowledgeable even though they are the ones paying for a service.

  10. Re:Misleading title by D.+Taylor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Exactly. The GP said "You know what they say", not "You know what William Congreve said"..

    In any case, I can see why it is misquoted...

  11. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He quoted it correctly, the common misquotation is "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn." I don't know what point you were trying to get at other than being a karma whore.

  12. Simple solution by xenobyte · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The repair man should have plugged in a laptop or similar, showing a working connection, thus placing the issue squarely on the customers computer. If the repair man couldn't make his laptop connect either, the issue is either with both computers or - much more likely - the connection, and thus he knows he has work to do.

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  13. She opened the door for him, ya know? by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I might even have more sympathy for the techie, if not for the following detail: she actually opened the door for him, when he said he needed some CD from the van, and propped it open for when he returns. (Only to see him run off and drive off to the cops.)

    I'm sorry, but is there any realistic and sane way to mistake that for a genuine hostage situation? I mean, hello? Isn't that the polar opposite of _preventing_ someone from leaving?

    How would that even work, if it were a genuine hostage situation? "KK, you can go now, but please return later 'cuz you're my hostage. I'll let the door propped open for you. KTHXBYE." Or what? :P

    Surely it would count as the most incompetent kidnapping in known history.

    Look, that maybe he was close to the breaking point himself and he left an impolite customer, ok. I can live with that. Maybe the company even has a policy of leaving at the slightest perceived threat, even as a joke, as someone else suggested. Fine. Leave if you must.

    But going to the police and filing criminal charges? Nope, sorry, my sympathy for him automatically ends there. He's an arsehole who thought he can abuse the system to teach someone else a lesson. And I have no sympathy for that.

    Well, either that, or he is genuinely schizophrenic and thought that opening the door for him equals preventing him to leave. And in that case, someone put him in a nut house and on neuroleptics. Because God knows what else he might mis-interpret in surrealistic ways, and how he'll react then. Maybe at the next customer he'll think that offering him a glass of water means trying to set him on fire, or whatever. Maybe he'll end up injuring someone or himself, thinking he's fighting for his very life.

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