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The London Stock Exchange Goes Down For Whole Day
Colin Smith writes "TradElect, the Microsoft .Net based trading platform for the London Stock Exchange, was offline for about seven hours, meaning that their 5-nines SLAs are shot for approximately the next 100 years. The TradElect system was launched back in June of 2007 and was designed for increased speed and system capacity."
...now if only my wife would do that! /rimshot!
most of the american stock exchanges have been going down all year.
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.... a method of controlling the market.
But Patch Tuesday is tomorrow?
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Looks like someone needs to brush up on their buzzwords, specifically "mission critical" and "services no longer required".
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Yeah, because they turn it on when trading starts and turn it off when trading ends.
.Net is pants!
Oh, she does... just not with you.
nudge nudge, wink wink.
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is going to bring back a lost day of trading.
"and was designed for increased speed and system capacity"
and see - it went down far faster and more completely than the previous system would have been able to. So that's progress. It's all in how you present it.
I want a churro.
So their 9.9999% uptime is screwed?
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See, that's why they should have used J2EE instead. If they had, no one would have been able to tell the difference between the network working and the normal slow crawl that Java users are accustomed to.
(Seriously, though, the summary needs to be rewritten. Slashdot is blaming TradeElect as a proxy for Microsoft due to a, uh, slight anti-Microsoft bias.)
After the malfunction, TradElect was immediately bought by UK's government for $200 billion and all its debts waved. In an unrelated story, medicare tax was raised yet again because of an unexpected shortfall.
Oh, she does... just not with you. nudge nudge, wink wink.
Your wife -- does she go?
More importantly, does she run?
More specifically, does she run Linux?
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Does anyone else remember the "The london stock exchange chose windows 2003 for reliability, they didn't choose linux" ad banners that used to run all over the place, including slashdot if i remember?
Funny how it's all come crashing down...
"The london stock exchange chose windows, but after 7 hours of downtime wishes they had chosen linux".
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The same thing that happened this time?
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
So what happens when this happens again?
Well, first "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Otherwise, "Are you sure it's plugged in?"
GAAH! MY PRINTER IS ON FIRE!!! PUT IT OUT! PUT IT OUT!
99.999% uptime is something different?
Guess that depends on what hours it is supposed to be working doesn't it?
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"Sid, Stef
- Stef: How reliable is our network?
Sid: As far as our customers are concerned, five nines.
Stef: What does "five nines" mean?
Sid: 99.999% uptime.
Sid: Wait... Why?!
Stef: So would "reliable to nine fives" in our newspaper ad be not very good?"
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That's 'bollocks', mate. You'd know 'em if you had 'em.
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.NET garbage collector: "Oops, that wasn't garbage!"
'a';DROP TABLE users; SELECT * FROM DATA WHERE name LIKE '%'... if you're reading this, it didn't work.
But new computer systems should make things more reliable, along with more experienced coders and better languages.
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Was it back up before the bell rang and did the Micro$oft stock plumit? in a dutch dialect dot-net translates into "doesn't work" ;-)
Oh, she does... just not with you. nudge nudge, wink wink.
Your wife -- does she go?
More importantly, does she run?
More specifically, does she run Linux?
More relevantly, does she run TradElect?
No, she goes down on it.
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Well, I'm a state employee, and I can tell you that a few 7 hour days in a row would outright kill me.
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The exchange goes down at the same time that the US buys two huge, failing monoliths?
"Turn the bloody thing off! We'll just blame Microsoft and see how the rest of the markets shake out, shall we?"
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Well, it looks like it's hosed. You should probably reinstall the OS.
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Well, that gives a new meaning to opening Windows to Dungeon Dimensions.
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President of Exchange: [Randolph Duke has just collapsed with shock] Mortimer, your brother is not well. We better call an ambulance.
Mortimer Duke: Fuck him! Now, you listen to me! I want trading reopened right now. Get those brokers back in here! Turn those machines back on!
[shouts - it echoes pathetically throughout the trading hall]
Mortimer Duke: Turn those machines back on!
"FDA staff reviewers expressed concern about the number of patients who were left out of the study because they died."
It's impolite to interrupt all these people while they're masturbating.
yes, but how many times did they reboot it?
You must be an American, since you have NO idea what irony is...
Nah.
They'll be back at "5 nines" by next week.
The trick is to either redefine what the term means (so they are actually referring to 9.9999% uptime), or the timeframe (we've been at "5 nines" for the whole year" - said Jan 1 2009), or both ("so, we use 1 day as a data point, then if we've been up for any part of that day, we're good... so we've always operated at '5 nines' reliability")
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d'oh. So it was all built on .NET 1.1, no wonder. They need to upgrade to .NET 3.5 and all will be good. promise.
6.40K transactions/second ought to be enough for everyone.
I have discovered a truly marvelous proof of killer sig, which this margin is too narrow to contain.
30 seconds uptime per year? Now that IS impressive...
999.99% uptime: The system never crashes, and after you turn it off, it keeps running 9.9999 times as long as you had it running.
>It's called redundancy. Yes, a single router will fail. 2 at once? Likely not. 3? No.
Saw triply redundant systems fail twice in my career as a net admin.
I'm willing to bet your life on the reliability of triple redundancy.
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If she's down then who will do the dishes and laundry? How do you reboot her? Does it really take 7 hours? Don't they make drugs for that?
What.. what's a wife?
It's like a mother, but requires less therapy.
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can only assume the mods aren't in the "trainline" then.
A horse can't be sick, you know, even if he wants to.
Just different decimal point, Windows almost always has better than 9.9999% uptime
and better languages.
What? You mean Hindi?
Maybe he meant rim-job...
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which vista version are you using?
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Well, it looks like it's hosed. You should probably changethe OS.
fixed
IranAir Flight 655 never forget!
You missed a step. Forgot "Try reinstalling the operating system and see if that helps." Then, when 6 hours after starting the installation the poor bastard that's still downloading updates realizes the system has already been compromised for at least the last 4 hours, begins screaming and yelling incoherently, he is escorted off the premises. Scrub, rinse, repeat.
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What.. what's a wife?
WIFE: Specialized form of WIFI, indicating one of two stations engaged in a (semi-)permanent point-to-point link, the other station typically called HUSBAND. Unsecured transmission often leads to packet loss 9 months after initial association, resulting in long-term elevated QoS requirements. Roaming is usually forbidden by link protocol, although experiments with mesh networks have been reported. DOS attacks often lead to severed links, litigation and possibly material and financial damages.
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Win2K (and any other Windows based solutions) cut lots of corners in regards to security, so being the one that stays up the longer (I will concede this for the sake of argument, in my experience Wintel does not come even close to even Linux or Solaris) is not necessary a great thing if you are the most vulnerable.
Ask MS people where do they store cryptographic information related to Active Directory and prepare to be entertained.
Perhaps you haven't read the typical M$ EULA, it is always the customer's configuration fault, when it is not the customer's configuration fault it is a hardware fault, when it was neither the customer or the hardware's fault, then some other software installed on the system is responsible for at least 50% of faults, naturally enough as most business PC have M$ Office installed in parallel to M$ Windows that kinda makes sense ;D. So 5 '9's still intact and with the next rewrite of the M$ EULA 10 '9s' are guaranteed 'er' promised 'er' hinted at.
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Turn those machines back on!
Turn Those Machines Back ON!
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Ah. Some blamecasting, after which everybody pretends it had never happened?
Everyone pretends what never happened?
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Um, if you set up a network with this fiber, it would no longer be dark. I'm not sure what you think dark fiber is, fiber optics that are cool, edgy and a little bit menacing I suppose.
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You need to see this particular Dilbert cartoon, which is very much like what you describe :)
http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2008-09-09/
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