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Virginia Supreme Court Strikes Down Anti-Spam Law

Skater writes "The Washington Post is reporting that the Virginia Supreme Court has struck down the anti-spam law that was used to convict spammer Jeremy James, on the grounds that the ability to be anonymous was more important than the problem of spam. Strangely, the same court only a few months ago upheld the law. 'The court noted that "were the 'Federalist Papers' just being published today via e-mail, that transmission by Publius would violate the [current Virginia] statute." The court suggested that the law does not limit its restrictions on spam to commercial or fraudulent e-mail, or to unprotected speech such as pornography or defamation. And when the state suggested that the court merely tailor a restriction to the law within its opinion, the court declined.'"

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  1. Clueless judges by jmorris42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If 'Publius' spammed my inbox with the Federalist Papers I'd want the asshole's account yanked as much as the latest grow yer tool spam. Spam is unsolicited broadcast mail, period. Zero tolerance.

    The correct way to publish would be for Hamilton & friends to open a blog under the Publius pseudonym.

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    1. Re:Clueless judges by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well if the courts gave a law that made it illegal for you to send an email anonymously it would probably have just as many slashdotters saying how it is a violation of our rights. Sometimes to protect your rights you need to deal with people who abuse them.

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    2. Re:Clueless judges by beakerMeep · · Score: 4, Funny

      So what's the difference between sending a whistle blower email anonymously to a reporter and saying "H1! my f3llow 3recti1e dy5funcktion Fr@nds!" to your 100,000 of your closest personal buddies?

      lipstick.

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  2. Bad analogy by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If Publius sent the Federalist Papers via email to hundreds of thousands of people, it would BE spam. The Federalist papers were items that people VOLUNTARILY sought out - they weren't shoved into everyones mailboxes and under their door thresholds. If they were, they would have been ignored and thrown away just like junk mail is today.

    Political freedom of expression is protected; what isn't protected is having ANYTHING shoved down my throat using my own resources.

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    1. Re:Bad analogy by VeNoM0619 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You walk through the street, someone shoves a petition in your face. Do you lock them up as well?

      As much as we hate it, there is no fine line of liberties... we may be a "free" country, but not entirely free.

      We try to define "freedom until you harm others", but seeing how much more of babies we've become (with less violence, wars, etc.), we see minor things "cause us (mental) harm" and try to justify that.

      I hate spam just as much as anyone else, but they should have the freedom to send me it, since I am not physically harmed.

      Oh and for those "give us your e-mail then!" people, its my username at hotmail. Good luck cause I last checked it a week ago, the 2nd to last time I checked was 6 months ago.

      Just funny, cause back in the day, all drugs were legal, cause you weren't physically harming someone (stabbing etc.). Now it's justified with "you might harm someone if you abuse it" so they removed it entirely to prevent the chance for abuse. I'm not for or against drugs - just an example of how freedom is a slippery slope that can never be truly solved.

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    2. Re:Bad analogy by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If someone is holding out a piece of paper for me to take, I can say "no thanks"

      If someone is shoving that piece of paper in my pocket, and doing the same to THOUSANDS of others simultaneously, he would be arrested for assault.

      That's the problem - there IS no "real world" analogy that fits properly. The problem, in this case, is that handbilling is an even poorer analogy than most. Junk mail would be a better analogy, except for the fact that the costs are paid by the mailers, not the recipient. Probably the best analogy would be telemarketing calls to cellphones, where the user pays for a call that they don't want. Oh, wait - that's ILLEGAL.

      And don't say that it doesn't cost the recipient anything. I pay for my connection, and that money goes to a number of different people to pay for bandwith, among other things. If spam were gone, bandwidth needs would lessen and my rates would decrease. So I AM paying for spam, just not directly.

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  3. anonymous != fraudulent by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Agee noted that in order to send an anonymous e-mail, the sender must "enter a false IP address or domain name."

    No. That is wrong. You can be anonymous without spoofing IP addresses or faking domain names.

    And "the right to engage in anonymous speech, particularly anonymous political or religious speech, is 'an aspect of the freedom of speech protected by the First Amendment," Agee wrote, citing a 1995 U.S. Supreme Court opinion.

    Correct your usage of "anonymous" first and then I might agree with you.

    The court noted that "were the 'Federalist Papers' just being published today via e-mail, that transmission by Publius would violate the [current Virginia] statute."

    Bullshit. You still don't understand "anonymous".

  4. Bravo. by spazdor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And here we get to a fundamental question about what we want the Net to be. The court was entirely right to balk at deciding this for us.

    We can have the right to communicate anonymously over the Net. Or we can have the right not to be contacted by anonymous people. We can't have both.

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  5. Other laws are still valid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It is illegal to sell prescription drug without a prescription. Its also illegal to offer drugs to children in most states. Everyone here needs to call their country District attorney and ask them what they are doing about peddling drugs over the internet. It almost election time and some of them are trying to get elected as a state DA so now is the time to get on their case.

  6. Honestly, I can't fault them for this. by Millennium · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The court is right about one thing: the law is too vague. Fix the law, and then there will be no problem with the courts.

  7. I defend not what you say... by gillbates · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but your right to spam everyone with it?!

    First Ammendment in action?

    Spam is the ideal litmus test for where someone stands on the rights of free speech. It's almost universally objectionable, never warranted, and offensive to just about everyone.

    Yet I'm not sure if there's anyone in the ./ crowd who will stick to their free speech principles when such principles inconvenience them personally. Is there anyone here who, upon receiving spam, remarks to themselves, "Ah, yes, free speech is not dead. I'm glad that - although I personally could care less about replica watches or increasing the size of my body parts - that somewhere, someone out there is free to send such materials to my inbox. USA! USA! USA!"

    Because it stands to reason that if spammers have no right to send anonymous messages, then neither do you or I. While a lot of people may not like this particular consequence of free speech, it's far more dangerous to do away with the legal protections for anonymous speech.

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  8. Mod Parent Up by mpapet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The rest of the posts missed this entirely. The court was right here too...

    And when the state suggested that the court merely tailor a restriction to the law within its opinion, the court declined.

    Courts more or less interpret laws and process law breakers. Changes in the law are supposed to come from legislation, not the bench.

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  9. Federalist Papers... by msauve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is the Court truely so clueless ("were the 'Federalist Papers' just being published today via e-mail, that transmission by Publius would violate the [current Virginia] statute.")?

    The Federalist Papers were never forced upon unwanting recipients who had to pay for their receipt, they were made available to those who wanted to read them. There was choice involved.

    The Federalist Papers were originally published in newspapers, so there's absolutely no parallel to spam. In modern terms, it would be a better comparison to blogs or websites. That can be done anonymously.

    Big FAIL for the Court.

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