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Microsoft Says IE8 Phoning Home Is "Pretty Innocuous"

CWmike writes "Microsoft has defended the IE8 tool that suggests sites based on URLs typed into its address bar, saying that the browser 'phones home' only a limited amount of information to Microsoft and that the company discards all user IP addresses almost immediately. Company managers also contrasted IE8 Beta 2's 'Suggested Sites' feature with the 'Suggest' feature used by Google Chrome, saying that Microsoft's requires the user's explicit permission before it's used. They did acknowledge a bug that prevents the request from reappearing when users reinstall the browser. Cyra Richardson, a Microsoft principal program manager on the IE team, said: 'Suggested Sites is connected to the browser's history, and it's not looking at each of the keystrokes. IE only captures the URL as it is navigated [to], when that URL goes into your history.' Nor does Suggested Sites log and transmit cookies to Microsoft's servers, as does Google Suggest, Richardson said. 'The data we log is actually pretty innocuous.'"

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  1. What did you expect them to say? by line-bundle · · Score: 5, Funny

    "We are going to use the data to sell you Zunes?"

    1. Re:What did you expect them to say? by methangel · · Score: 2, Funny

      As long as it works with a Zune.

    2. Re:What did you expect them to say? by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      If Google does it, it is because they are using the information to help us.
      If Microsoft does it, it is used for evil.

      CONSISTENCY PEOPLE!

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  2. Just remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If Google does it, they do it because they "probably have to." Luckily, they said they "do no evil" so that means they're absolute good and thus immune to scrutiny.

    If Microsoft does it, then they're obviously logging all the data on you and plan to sell it to the highest bidder, to use to pay for restrictive DRM technologies and run over old ladies in the street. Though you do not have facts to back up the last statement, you've always conceded that they are a luxury around here. Besides, Microsoft is a convicted monopolist, which somehow magically changes all the rules on logical arguments, or something.

    Did I get it all right? I know there's nothing about Apple in here, but I'll try harder next time.

    1. Re:Just remember... by enoz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whoosh!

      Boom!

      The Whoosh! was the humour in the OP apparently flying over your head.

      The Boom! when the joke broke the humour barrier and put the mods into a case of shock, apparently causing them to mod you up.

    2. Re:Just remember... by ScreamingCactus · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Almost immediately" means it's discarded right after the URL is linked to your profile in their Global Database of Evil and forwarded to hundreds of Cheap Viagra internet companies and the NSA, all of which takes about a second, which IS almost immediately.

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      The path to enlightenment is truly through homemade drugs!
    3. Re:Just remember... by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...that when you're on the internet you are totally naked.

      Speak for yourself.

    4. Re:Just remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Londo: How fast does the poison work?
      Vir: Very quickly, he said almost instantaneously.
      Londo: 'Almost'? How fast is almost? Time enough for him to stagger back into the main room and cry out: 'Londo killed me'? Or maybe just enough time for him to say: 'Londo kill..aargh'?
      Vir: And then he won't even get that out, I mean, maybe he just go: 'Lon.. arrgh'. Or maybe he's totally delirious and then say everything backwards and say: 'Kill Londo! Arrgh'. .. I was just making a play on..

    5. Re:Just remember... by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

      we take the IP address, get all the information that we need from it...

      ie, "We only record the first four bytes of the IP address, then we toss the rest"

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      which is totally what she said
  3. pr0n by pizzach · · Score: 4, Funny

    I absolutely hate site suggestions when I mistype an URL. Why? Because if the url contains the phrase "kicks-ass", my ISP starts advertising porn.

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    Once you start despising the jerks, you become one.
    1. Re:pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Whats your ISP? I'd like to use it to... erm... do "research".

    2. Re:pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      The same happens to me with URLs containing penisland, cummingfirst, and whorepresents.

    3. Re:pr0n by pyrrhonist · · Score: 4, Funny

      I get porn suggested just b/c i type in 'tea-bag' but then I'm like..hmmm this looks interesting.

      ProTip: Instead of searching, bookmark Bungie.net for when you want to see your Halo profile.

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      Show me on the doll where his noodly appendage touched you.
  4. Danger Signs by StefanJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) After installing IE8, webcam tracks your movements around the room.

    2) Strange giggling from PC speakers when you Agree to the EULA.

    3) When you start Spybot Search & Destroy you get a phone call from someone sounding an awful lot like Jerry Seinfeld threatening your pets.

    4) Paperclip is back, and now its mad.

    5) The next time you hear the phrase "actually pretty innocuous" is in President Palin's speech about what happens in Loyal Citizens' Youth Brigade moral rectification camps.

    6) You printer puts job sheets at the beginning of each document. Job sheets with coupons for Brawndo.

    7) Activity gadget in upper right hand corner of browser is a Total Information Awareness icon.

    8) Entering URL for Chrome download page redirects to gay furry bondage snuff porn site.

    9) After refusing to upgrade to IE8 you wake up to find the Firefox's severed head on your bed.

    10) Ghost of grandmother appears to you in dream, begging you to install Ubuntu. Which is just plain weird because she was a Slackware fan!

  5. evil by David+Gerard · · Score: 3, Funny

    "We're not evil," said Google. "We just want to know your confidential business data, bank account details, medical information, personal preferences in pornography and DNA code. Microsoft ... they want to make you use Windows Live Search."

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  6. Gay Furry Bondage Snuff Porn! WHEE! by zooblethorpe · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, I'm impressed. Googling for "gay furry bondage snuff porn" produces your post here as the top hit only a couple hours after you posted.

    Aside from being impressed, I'm also somehow disappointed... ;)

    Cheers,

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    "What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
    "A four-foot prune."
  7. Re:Suggestions? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 5, Funny

    People pay for Windows?

    Yes, almost every time I use it.

  8. Re:Gay Furry Bondage Snuff Porn! WHEE! by PrinceOfStorms · · Score: 5, Funny

    A quick check of this revealed that you are now number one! Congratulations...I think.

  9. and... by Shads · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... me not upgrading to IE 8 is pretty innocuous too!

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    Shadus