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Google's Floating Datahaven

PDG writes "Google has pending plans to take its data centers off-shore, literally. By moving their data centers to floating barges in international waters, they are able to save money on taxes and electricity (using wave based power) as well as reside their operations outside the jurisdiction of governments. There is mention of hurricane and other caveats, but I wonder how they plan to get a bandwidth pipe large enough and still be reliable. Seems like a chapter out of a Neal Stephenson novel." You might recall earlier discussions on the same subject.

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  1. In other news... by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer announces a multi-billion dollar investment in a fleet of submarines.

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    1. Re:In other news... by BitterOldGUy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer announces a multi-billion dollar investment in a fleet of submarines.

      You kid, but wait till Google has some shit that China, Iran, or even the US doesn't like. Or Greenpeace or some other aggressive group doesn't like.

      Accidents do happen at sea!

    2. Re:In other news... by lord_sarpedon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ha! And you think Google isn't prepared for that?

      Google Android...a platform for "mobile phones" huh.
      The Dalvik virtual machine sounds kinda like Dalek to me. Coincidence? Or killer robot defense force that also doubles as WiFi hotspots?

      I hear they're launching stuff into space now too.

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    3. Re:In other news... by rarel · · Score: 5, Funny

      GOO-GLE-MI-NA-TE!

  2. That's because... by InfinityWpi · · Score: 5, Funny

    You see, Neal was born in 2014, he was only allowed to come back in time if he wrote some 'science fiction' novels that would cover up the fact he was a time traveller by just making him look like he made some lucky guesses.

    1. Re:That's because... by Twyst3d · · Score: 5, Funny

      Keep an eye out for kayaking Eskimos with glass knives IMO

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  3. patent!? by zoefff · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the article it's clear that they want to patent the idea.
    I don't understand that. What's the use of a patent if somebody infringing it is also in international waters and not bounded to patent law?

  4. wave power by way2trivial · · Score: 5, Interesting

    can be done with rolling seas..

    You send something to the sea floor and secure it

    the raising of the whole ship based on wave motion can drive a flywheel..... the displacement of the ship generates a LOT of power....

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  5. Re:One word... by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't worry. Each barge has a team of ninjas assigned to it to fight off pirates.

  6. There is no such thing by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 5, Informative

    as 'outside government jurisdiction'. A ship HAS to be registered and carry the flag of SOME nation, and it will be subject to the laws of that country. So a ship is no more or less outside the law than if you built your data center in that country.

    Supposing someone has a ship which is NOT registered anywhere, then it is essentially 'fair game'. If say the US didn't like what you're doing they can just sail on up and do whatever they want with you. They could certainly board and seize any such vessel, after all who's going to object? In theory there might be some construction of maritime law that provides some protections, but without a government capable of objecting you're basically SOL.

    So, there would be no consideration on Google's part of evasion of law. Possibly a way to choose a regulatory regime you like, but that's about it. Plus remember any large corporation is pretty much held hostage to its investors, insurance requirements, financing, and ultimately to whatever nations it has substantial business interests in.

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  7. Re:bandwidth by lord_sarpedon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Latency can be reduced significantly if they begin sending your results a mere moment before you submit your search.

    This feature requires you to be signed in I think.

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  8. Re:Remember that Total Information Awareness plan? by Talderas · · Score: 5, Funny

    Follow the law is neither good or evil. It's being lawful, which is the opposite of chaotic. That being said, as long as you're not a paladin, you don't have to worry about laws that aren't good.

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  9. Re:Company navy? Examples? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If a company can truly do this, I bet it's been done before. (Waiting for examples.)

    East India Company

  10. Hi Tech needs protection by Simonetta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Everyone laughs, but that doesn't change reality. Reality is that when you have a huge corporation with most of its assets tied up in advanced technology, then you have to pay to keep it protected.

      If you move the technology off-shore to avoid taxes, then you lose the protection that those taxes provide. Both from criminals and from the police that are being paid by the taxes that your land-based operations incur. Does Google plan to hire Blackwater (the world's largest mercenary army) to keep people away from their floating data centers?

        There is also the question of getting the money to build these floating structures. As I write on Monday morning Sept 15 2008, the banking structure of the USA is collapsing. The stock market is falling and several of the largest banks of the USA have declared bankruptcy. No banks means no capital for expansion. Granted this isn't such a big issue when Google has such a large stock value, but that stock value is mostly based on speculation and Google's price could fall as fast as it rose.

        There is also the question of scale. One can claim that a huge data center could be powered by wave energy; it's another thing to actually do it. Especially when you are a public corporation and have to answer to entities that hold huge blocks of your stock.

        Google is a company with an oversupply of young over-educated technological Grade-Point Angels (people whose most singular talent is to convince their teachers to give them high grades in order that the teachers will be able to reflect in their angel's glory). These people have a tendency to actually believe their fantasies, especially the fantasies that involve both ecology and advanced technology.

        This factor has to be considered in all of their press releases and corporate projections.

  11. Re:Google & guns by Xaositecte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lol wut?

    What is morally ambiguous about shooting people who are threatening to shoot you?

    Not as some kind of bizarre Iraq war metaphor, I mean if someone breaks into your house, or your place of employment, and threatens you with a gun.

    You also have a gun, so you shoot them. This is not a difficult moral dilemma.