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The Best Gaming Laptop Money Can Buy

Parz writes "Gameplayer has gone live with their winners for the best gaming laptops money can buy as of Q3 2008. The analysis is broken into three sections to cater for three different budget requirements. There is a detailed explanation of why each laptop was selected, going into each hardware component individually. Regular Slashdot users will remember the site's article from a few weeks ago, which analysed the Best Gaming PCs that Money can Buy. Prices may vary depending on where you live."

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  1. Results will be valid for four days... by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...until the next one comes out.

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  2. Never use a laptop for gaming. by telchine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I always think that using Laptops for gaming is a bit of a silly idea. Every couple of months a new game comes out that requires more powerful graphics, and you can't upgrade the graphics cards in a laptop. So your top of the range laptop bought today will be a pale shadow of its former self when playing the latest game in a year's time. With a desktop PC, you can simply replace the old graphics card with a new one.

    1. Re:Never use a laptop for gaming. by mcsqueak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are right. Using a laptop for a primary gaming device, unless you have a lot of money to burn is a rather silly idea since you cannot upgrade it. I found when I was in college and doing a lot of gaming that having a desktop I could upgrade every two years for about $500-800 was the way to go, and it would give me another two years of being able to play the latest titles.

      I recently purchased a fully-loaded Dell XPS 1530 laptop for Photoshop on-the-go functionality, and it has been fun being able to to play some older titles like Half-Life 2 again, but I don't expect it to be able to keep up with what is coming out.

    2. Re:Never use a laptop for gaming. by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I just got a laptop for gaming. It's a 1.13 GHZ P3 with 256MB of ram. I spent all weekend playing apple II and TG16 games on it. I had a blast.

      It's not playing games on laptops that's silly. It's the obsession with playing the latest resource hogging games that's silly.

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    3. Re:Never use a laptop for gaming. by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I always think that using Laptops for gaming is a bit of a silly idea.

      And a lot of other people would think using a DS or a PSP for gaming is also a bit of a silly idea, for much the same reasons. If developers choose not to to make games whose graphics scale down to the capabilities of two-year-old laptops, then they choose to let someone else sell products to owners of two-year-old laptops.

    4. Re:Never use a laptop for gaming. by 4D6963 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Which is why I for one will be doing my laptopish gaming on a Pandora. Close enough in shape and function to be on topic, after all it's like a DS-sized EEE with good gaming controls and keyboard theoretically usable enough to use the device both as a laptop and a gaming console.

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    5. Re:Never use a laptop for gaming. by MobyDisk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Really, what is silly is that laptops don't have upgradable graphics.

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      I agree that it is silly. But for some people it is necessary.

      I am a programmer who does a lot of gaming, and writes games on the side. I got hired to do development at a job that requires me to travel, so I had to get a laptop. Since I use the same tools at work and at home, I either ditch the desktop and use the laptop for everything (including games), or I try to install everything on both computers and keep everything in sync. That's a real big pain. So I opted to get a laptop with a GeForce 8600 GT Mobile, and use my laptop as my gaming PC.

      It is a hassle. But for me, it is better than the alternative.

    6. Re:Never use a laptop for gaming. by Fozzyuw · · Score: 2, Informative

      Some of us are willing to pay more than that to get old games like warcraft 2 working smoothly.

      Hehe. Speaking of which, I played Warcraft II yesterday for a few hours on my Dell Inspiron 8100 that I bought in like 2001... for gaming.

      It's suited my every gaming need since that time and I still play World of Warcraft on it. I couldn't play Doom 3 on it back then, but when I bought a gaming desktop a few years back, I just bought Doom 3 then.

      It's a great machine for running my other older games I never got a chance to play, like Baulders Gate, Fallout 1 & 2, Warcraft 2, and Starcraft. And for playing casual Flash games.

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    7. Re:Never use a laptop for gaming. by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let me know when a DX10-only game comes out...

    8. Re:Never use a laptop for gaming. by Creepy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      well, there isn't too much better than a 8600M GT as of yet, at least performance-wise, but that card is one generation behind. The best nVidia you can get is still a 9800M GTX, and those are just a die-shrink of the 8xxx line (the GTX 200s don't have a mobile platform yet).

      If you always want the latest-and-greatest graphics in a laptop, you should maybe look for something upgradable - nVidia standardized their mobile graphics on the MXM platform and, although ATI has a competing standard (AXIOM), it has so far been losing badly and it is now fairly common to find ATI cards that use MXM.

      The real problem comes with MXM systems that are upgradable - the ASUS C90 is, and I've read MXM Acer laptops are, but after that it's anyone's guess - some MXM computers like the 24" iMac are not. There are also 4 separate sized slots - MXM I, MXM II, MXM III, and MXM HE and larger slots can take the smaller GPUs, but not vice versa (most laptops I've seen that have them are MXM II). Sometimes you also need to buy the notebook manufacturer's branded card, as well. Also note that there is now at least one desktop card that uses MXM - the ASUS Trinity. Basically, it has 3 MXM modules on a regular PCI-E card, and when the graphics card needs updating, you replace the MXM modules, not the card, supposedly saving you some expense.

    9. Re:Never use a laptop for gaming. by WDot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you're playing only the latest, most graphics-intensive games, than a laptop isn't the way to go. But if you find yourself spending a lot of time playing older games (not just classics, can include 2004 on if they aren't too power hungry or you can handle lower settings), it's a great idea. Especially if you go to a lot of LANs and the idea of unhooking your PC setup AGAIN starts to get annoying. Plus it's easier on your host's electricity bill. ;)

    10. Re:Never use a laptop for gaming. by Cederic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I game on a laptop for the simple reason that I have two homes (due to work). So I bought a decent spec laptop and stick it in the car when I switch houses.

      I have a power supply, mouse, headset at each house. I also have a USB powered laptop cooler at each house. Something akin to http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=280872&sourceid=2459&CAWELAID=84125196

      (I don't have that model. Google for 'laptop cooler' and see what comes up).

      It's a little noisier, but it means I can use a laptop for gaming while lying on a bed (with the laptop on the base on the bed) and the laptop's own fans rarely need to kick in (for WoW - STALKER needed rather more cooling).

      So it will greatly improve the likely lifespan of the laptop.

      If you're using the laptop in 1-2 main locations (so don't have to worry about carrying them) then I'd definitely recommend grabbing a cooler. They're cheap and effective.

  3. From the article... by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Your hardware wonâ(TM)t function without an OS, so what better choice than Microsoftâ(TM)s latest offering. Despite the constant criticism, Vista is a very stable, secure and enjoyable platform to work with. In collaboration with the latest gear, games will play at high speed and detail to whet your gaming appetite!"

    Nice to see they are still paid by Microsoft marketing arm. That entire statement goes against everything every reputable gaming site and expert says..

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    1. Re:From the article... by thewaker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And note that the constant criticism isn't going away. The MS Marketing machine can't hide the negative opinions.

    2. Re:From the article... by oldspewey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Churro?

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    3. Re:From the article... by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Vista gaming is now on par with XP.

      Good. Still no need to "upgrade" then...

  4. How about... by Rie+Beam · · Score: 3, Funny

    A Beowulf cluster of Eee PCs glued to a go-cart. ...what? Can't a man dream?

    1. Re:How about... by Lord+Aurora · · Score: 3, Funny

      Only if Natalie Portman is driving.

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  5. Re:Too much RAM? by Trent+Hawkins · · Score: 5, Funny
    This whole review is bullshit. I mean come on:

    GPU - ATI 4870 X2
    Price: ~$655
    If Golem had a computer, this would be his precious.

    The guy can't even spell "Gollum".
    Geek license revoked!

  6. "The Best Gaming Laptop Money Can Buy" by Rie+Beam · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have no money, is there a list of laptops for people with large piles of string?

  7. Does the original Gameboy Count? by neonprimetime · · Score: 2, Funny

    You can get one on eBay for like $6.50, with Tetris. What else do you need?

    1. Re:Does the original Gameboy Count? by neonprimetime · · Score: 2

      Probably not many people on /. share my opinion ... but I'd much rather spend hours in front of Tetris, Super Mario 3, Dig Dug, Frogger, Sonic, the original WarCraft, Sim City 2000, or some other classic ... than waste my time and money on the latest and greatest resource hog.

  8. Re:Too much RAM? by dr_wheel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not completely. Sure, they won't see all of the ram with 32-bit windows. But, in my experiences, windows will recognize between 3.25 to 3.5GB in a 4GB system.

    Ideally, 3GB would be the config to use for modern gaming PC's running 32-bit windows (gaming benchmarks seem to indicate that 3GB is better than 2GB for current-gen games). However, if you don't run matched pairs, your ram isn't in dual channel mode.

    So what do you do? Run 4GB across 2 or 4 sticks. It's your best, albeit slightly wasteful, memory config for gaming. And if/when you decide to migrate to 64-bit windows, you're in good shape memory-wise.

  9. Reviews on spec by liquiddark · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's obvious from the article that the reviewer didn't actually use the machines in question, and some of the choices are really questionable - he recommends a machine with Vista 64bit. Given the continued instability of a lot of 64 bit graphics drivers even on desktops, buying a laptop - where custom drivers tend to rule (and ruin) the day - with the OS seems like a massive waste of cash. I think this is a case of Reader Beware.

  10. Except it's not PC games by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can see your point, but the question and the context was about laptops that run PC games.

    Portables like the original gameboy or the newer DS, are a bit of a fixed target: a game either runs on that one configuration, or it doesn't. There are no games written for a DS with an upgraded graphics card, or with more RAM.

    PC gaming doesn't really have such fixed targets. All games try to surpass last year's in terms of graphics, if nothing else because screenshots sell, and the hardware requirements are occasionally outright silly. I can think of some games (e.g., EQ2) which were launched to match hardware specs that didn't even yet exist. E.g., seriously, to run EQ2 with full graphics details you needed a 512 MB graphics card, and that just didn't exist yet. (Well, ok, maybe except as a high-end, professional OpenGL card for CAD.)

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  11. Again? by YourExperiment · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Regular slashdot users will remember the site's article from a few weeks ago, which analysed the Best Gaming PCs that Money can Buy.

    Whereas regular Slashdot editors might remember how the last article was panned by readers, and might have ceased spamming us with articles from this site.

    They might also remember to capitalise the name of their own site, but I guess all this is too much to hope for.

  12. I reject these totally by cephyn · · Score: 4, Informative

    A gaming laptop review without reviewing one from Sager?

    Ridiculous. I love my Sager, and the company is great.

    http://www.sagernotebook.com/

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  13. Re:Why bother with a notebook? by Sancho · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I question the sanity of sticking SLI/RAID0 configurations with enormous screens in a notebook formfactor. You're essentially giving up on the idea of portability, particularly given that the battery in one of those things can't even keep the machine running for an hour.

    You still get portability. You just don't get to be unplugged. A notebook like this means that you can sit on your couch and play games, or move into your bedroom, or take your computer with you on vacation and play some, etc. Lugging around your desktop is probably not an option in many cases.

  14. Whats the best bicycle for crossing the atlantic? by anomaly256 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, it's just as valid a question...

  15. Re:Too much RAM? by Minwee · · Score: 2, Informative

    You may want to look that word up some time.

    In addition to the obvious mythological reference, which has nothing to do with Tolkien, the Hebrew word 'Golem' means 'fool', 'stupid' or 'clueless'. So, with that in mind, the review can be read as "If a stupid, clueless fool had a computer, this would be it."

    The only way you could praise it more would be to say that it has "more schmaltz for your schlemiel".

  16. the best one money can buy by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    will heat up like the center of the sun, whir like a 747, weigh a metric ton and never be moved from the desk upon which it will sit, consume as much power as a low end desktop, and work for about 6 months to 1 year until thermal stress takes hold and it becomes worthless for any use. much like jumbo shrimp, conservative republican, and tactical nuclear weapon, this "gaming laptop" capable of running crysis for all of 20 minutes before thermaling out, is an oxymoron.

    the gaming laptop was contrived as a marketing competition tool to push the limits of the laptop form-factor with complete disregard for longevity and end user functionality.

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  17. Re:Too much RAM? by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Informative

    Considering the author had blatantly incorrect things like:

    LCD: 15.4" is the sweet sport for mobility vs screen real estate.

    I would bet you all the money I have right now that he didn't know the Hebrew meaning for golem, and was in fact trying and failing to reference the Lord of the Rings character. It's very nice that you give him the benefit of the doubt, but the writer gives way too many places to doubt to make that even slightly noble.

  18. Re:Should have done best servers for the money by morcego · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't waste your time.
    There are no tests performed, no benchmarks, no comparisons.

    The guy only went to 3 websites (Dell, Alienware and some other), read the specs, and said what he though of it.

    Completely useless. Glad I use AdBlock. That site doesn't deserve a cent of advertisement money.

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  19. No Driver updates by mrsaggy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The biggest problem I have with laptops it the lack of driver updates.
    My laptop has a nVidia graphics card, but is unsupported by nVidia.
    The drivers need to be updated by the manufacturer and I cannot use the universal
    driver. My old laptop with Geforce 2, hasnt had a driver update since 2002.

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