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CodeWeavers Package Google Chrome For Linux and Mac
jfbilodeau writes "The fine folks at Codeweavers performed an 11 day experiment in getting Google Chrome working on Linux and Mac. Their efforts resulted in the Chromium proof of concept. 'Not only does this give Mac and Linux users a chance to see what all the hype is about, it also lets the world see just how far Wine has come and how powerful it truly can be. In just 11 days, we were able to bring a modern Windows application across to Mac and Linux.' Caveat: their implementation is free as in beer but not free as in speech."
free as in beer
but not free as in speech
What of free from fear
Of corporate over-reach?
Get thee glass eyes, and, like a scurvy politician, seem to see things thou dost not.--King Lear
Good job getting it to work with wine, and verily I say that wine has come a *long* way since I started using it six years ago, but we all know what we'd really like to see: a native port of the application.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
What I'd like to know is why .kml/.kmz files created by Google Earth are incompatible with Google Maps.
Doesn't work for me. "wine ChromeSetup.exe" gives
fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership ((nil) 0x12a078 0x33f930) stub! fixme:process:SetProcessShutdownParameters (00000280, 00000001): partial stub. fixme:ole:CoInitializeSecurity ((nil),-1,(nil),(nil),6,2,(nil),64,(nil)) - stub! fixme:winhttp:WinHttpOpen ((null), 1, (null), (null), 0x0): stub
Good for Crossover!
How 'bout you actually try the Crossover packages then like you were supposed to? http://www.codeweavers.com/services/ports/chromium/
Why does it take 11 days to get Chromium to work under Wine? Why doesn't it just run?
I wish CodeWeavers would go and get Google SketchUp, their "easy 3D drawing" program, to work on Wine for Linux. Because that's the only way to make models to export into Google Earth (Earth does have a Linux version, SketchUp does not).
There's all kinds of crashing problems with SketchUp on Wine in simple things like opening/saving/exporting files, corrupted cursors and icons, which a team like CodeWeavers could probably straighten out pretty quick. Since Google hasn't shown any progress towards releasing a Linux version of SketchUp, someone else has to do the work.
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make install -not war
Does Linux users, especially the newbies who just comes from Windows land need such a potential privacy killer?
They moved to Linux because their Windows became impossible to use since they kept not reading EULAs and leaving "default options" checked.
Duly impressed in their success in porting in less than two weeks, I downloaded the Mac port. Alas, the joy is short-lived. It's terribly slow, locked up for short periods a couple of times, and had a generally poor user experience. It was not dock-aware, had odd-looking widgets that looked poor compared to Firefox or Safari, and didn't integrate with the OS at all. I suspect that's par for the course for a Wine-ported app, but the end experience is worse than running Chrome in Parallels desktop in Coherence mode.
- Vincit qui patitur.
The other day, the news was Chrome did not install properly under Wine. :P
Today news is that Crossover have hacked a bit wine so they are able to run Chrome.
Posting from Chrome@ubuntu Hardy AMD64.
I'll stick with Firefox, thought
I assume when you say Chrome is a "privacy killer" you have read the whole source or at least monitored network traffic while browsing. Or maybe you are pulling it all out of your Google-hating er... parts.
Mac and Linux users should reject Windows applications and games. If they can't, they should question their OS of choice.
Why should anyone restrict themselves to native applications when they don't have to?
Ever heard of the best of both worlds?
Yeah, it's kind of like Word 6.0 for dos, which actually had all of windows 3.1 embedded in it.
This is a non-issue. It's open-source, after all. Just remove or disable the parts that you find objectionable.
2^5
free as in beer but not free as in speech
What of free from fear Of corporate over-reach?
I'm getting pretty sick of the whole "drunk as in beer, not as in scotch" disclaimer crap. Everything has its limits, and petty squabbles about "mine is freer than yours" serve only to enrage a flock of wannabe first amendment lawyers. They fill the blog'O'sphere with masturbatory rants about "you published your peanut butter without my chocolate disclaimer!"
Can't we find something better to squabble endlessly about? Like why Firefox's spell checker didn't complain about the word "masturbatory"?
John
Well, aside from the fact WINE is NOT emulating, ever think you need to run an application that is ONLY available on Windows?
Happens all the time in business. You can rant and rave all you want about alternatives or boycotting, or demanding a *nix port, but the reality is you have your business to attend too.
Sure, still push for that alternative, but you still gotta be running TODAY, not someday, and WINE can often do that for you and still let you ditch Windows along the way..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
But where's the misplaced emotion and outrage in that?
as good as Wine is, it will never compete with a browser which is designed to run natively on a platform
I don't know that that's true. WINE is not an emulator, it's an implementation of the Windows API. It's certainly possible for it to be a better-performing implementation.
If you were talking about virtualization, or even pseudo-virtualization like VMWare, where I/O is the serious bottleneck, then you'd be right.
I'd definitely like to see the benchmarks you suggest.
No, I don't joke. If I feel forced to use windows applications and games, I would go with Windows.
Long time before Ubuntu or other kind of stuff, I used Slackware Linux without WINE (it didn't work anyway) or any kind of dual booting as my only OS. Loki Games were alive and kicking that time so I purchased my games from them, running natively on Linux. I used Windows (as my only OS) a while and when I figured Desktop Linux won't serve to my kind of usage that time and only way to get full support is running Windows, I switched to OS X with G5.
Believe or not, there are some of us who doesn't "hate" windows but ignores it. While using Linux (and currently OSX/PPC), I don't buy anything which doesn't support my hardware and OS of choice. Not even a mouse.
If we weren't minority, the Linux and even OS X would be in very different shape now.
I assume when you say Chrome is a "privacy killer" you have read the whole source or at least monitored network traffic while browsing.
Serious defenders of online privacy do exactly the latter by testing software on a honeypot behind a proxy, reading the proxy's log, and reporting the result on a blog.
Your annoyance is misplaced.
The speech/beer convention was devised as a patch for a bug in the English language. One word, "free", has two distinct meanings. Normally people deal with these cases by using context ("Some atoms are ionized but most are unionized" vs. "Plumbers in many areas are unionized") but in this case both meanings are plausible. The two types are free are distinct, software could be free in either sense, yet English (unlike most other languages) gives us only one preferred word for both meanings.
This resulted in numerous exceedingly tedious flame wars that ended, if at all, with a lame "Oh, that's not what I thought you meant--why didn't you say so in the first place?"
Clarifying which homonym is intended right up front may annoy you, but trust me, it is far, far better than the alternative.
--MarkusQ