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Bavarian Police Seeking Skype Trojan Informant
Andreaskem writes "Bavarian police searched the home of the spokesman for the German Pirate Party (Piratenpartei Deutschland) looking for an informant who leaked information about a government Trojan used to eavesdrop on Skype conversations. (The link is a Google translation of the German original.) There is a high probability that the Trojan is used illegally. A criminal law specialist said, 'The Bavarian authorities worked on the Trojan without a legitimate basis and now try to silence critics.' The informant need not worry since 'every information that could be used to identify him' is protected against unauthorized access by strong encryption. The Trojan is supposedly capable of eavesdropping on Skype conversations and obtaining technical details of the Skype client being used. It is deployed by e-mail or in place by the police. A Pirate Party spokesman said, 'Some of our officials seem to want to install the Big Brother state without the knowledge of the public.'"
Who would have thought that even a country like Germany could deteriorate into a police state?
I kid, I kid... I'm in the US...
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
I prefer durex myself.
"several policemen at the private residence of the party's spokesman appeared and had threatened to eliminate all the rooms, if he does not cite its sources."
you see these rooms? if you do not cite your sources, we will make SURE that you'll never see them again! ever!
Look! I 'drew' ASCII Hitler! It's OK, though, the Bavarian Gendarmerie already pre-Godwinned the topic!
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"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
rj
"The price of Freedom is eternal vigilance." - who said that again?
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The trends I've been noticing lately are very disconcerting.
Think about what you get when the following technologies converge:
-- IP Traceback
-- VOIP Interception
-- Keylogging
-- Deep Packet Analysis
-- Automatic Vehicle License Plate Identification
-- Public/Metro Transit Card Tracking
Everyone now has the potential to become their own "Poor Man's NSA." Even local governments, or relatively poor and/or developing countries.
Of course, if a private citizen used these tools to protect their *own* interests, they could be charged with all sorts of crimes, like illegal wiretapping, computer intrusion and abuse, etc...
what did you expect, lawyers and RIAA?
Zero to Godwin in 3 posts, a new record !
This part was particularly compelling: In January 2008, the Pirate Party unbestätigtes letter from the Bavarian Justice Ministry zugespielt.
Love that translation program.
music lover since 1969
of themselves, and find no wrongdoing, as usual.
It is genuinely fucked up that, when evidence of a most-likely-illegal government surveillance program comes to light, they are hunting for the person who brought the problem to light, rather than the people who are the problem.
FFS, if evidence of an illegal program is leaked, your problem isn't leakers, it is lawbreakers.
Even the translation feels Chinese.
Look! I 'drew' ASCII Hitler!
Does that make your post illegal in Germany?
i expect adolescent whining by the paranoid dork kdawson. so no surprises here
federal authorities should be seeking the bavarian fascist that initiated the program.
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Seriously?
And this has been another installament of Captain Obvious!
This is just a ruse by the Bavarian Illuminati to distract from their real weapon: Skype-induced hallucinations!
Speaking of Nazi's, that should be spelled
"Achtung! Sieg Heil!"
"Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
Arrrr, break out the rum, me hearties!
Attention all planets of the Solar Federation! We have assumed control! - Neil Peart
If there's strong encryption, how do they know that there's information which could be used to identify the informant?
I assume this means that someone knows that there's incriminating evidence in encrypted media. And they know where the encrypted media is, and who owns that media?
If I were the informant, I'd be worried about how reliable the owner of the encrypted information is. But, perhaps there's something I don't get?
- Anonymous(Paranoid)Coward.
Posting Anonymously to protect my job,
I have been working for a few months on software designed to extract skype calls from streams of captured packets. The software is highly distributed, and while I can't know the exact use, I'm guessing it will be installed near every network interconnect point. Interestingly, it has nowehere near the performance required to record every skype call on the internet, so it will probably only be used for certain targets.
The good news is that the project is failing badly due to funding issues and poor management, and probably won't be deployed for years yet.
Note that this IS with the help of skype engineers - we haven't reverse engineered the encryption.
Being a German myself, I actually find the "ASCII Hitler" kind of funny.
The GGP is obviously lame, though .
Does it run under Linux?
I am wondering it really could be another reason to run Linux.
I am sure that the NSA has forensics tools for Linux but I bet the local police sure don't.
See my blog http://ilovecookes.blogspot.com/ for light hearted technical information.
"A Pirate Party spokesman said, 'Some of our officials seem to want to install the Big Brother state without the knowledge of the public.'"
This would seem to be an impossible desire. In Orwell's 1984, the whole idea of Big Brother was that everyone knew they were under constant surveillance.
How can you know that 'Big Brother is Watching You', and at the same time not know it?
Murder can usefully be outlawed, because it is a choice that an intelligent person makes. (In fact, if the killer is mentally deficient and incapable of making that choice, it is treated different legally.) A gun, knife, automobile, HCl etc, morphine, are objects of varying degrees of danger and usefulness.
Particular objects are reasonably controlled when the danger they present is not obvious to an ordinary person. Someone not familiar with chemistry may be tragically surprised by the destructiveness of a bottle of HCl (although warning labels help). Hence it makes sense to make it hard to get unless you know what you are doing.
A knife is an obvious danger. Even if you don't speak the language. Even if you just came from deepest darkest Africa and have never seen technology before. A gun is an obvious danger to someone exposed to any technology of the last 400 years. (Although apparently too many idiots don't think about the danger of it going off accidentally.)
So objects likely to result in accidental death are controlled, and hopefully still available with a license that demonstrates basic competence. (And where you draw the line depends on how stupid you think the average citizen is.) And deliberating causing death via any means is illegal - although most places allow for circumstances like duels, self-defense, etc.
Controlling an object/substance to prevent accidental death does *not* protect anyone from intentional death via that object/substance. Gun control may prevent some accidental home shootings, but it does not stop criminals from getting guns. Heck, if nothing else go back to basics and make a primitive weapon from steel rod and homemade gunpowder like they did in the 18th century. What next? Outlaw lathes? Outlaw metal cutting tools that could be attached to a homemade lathe? Outlaw fire since it could be used to forge and temper metal cutting tools?
... where the wild souvlaki herds roam! :)
Cheers,
"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."
For the first time in my life, I will attempt to post something informative on Slashdot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi_2.0
The, err, um, joke, is that the Stasi were the former East German secret police (1.0).
The major failure of the Stasi (1.0), was that they were collecting too much data, that they could ever dream of analyzing.
Has 2.0 deeper pockets?
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Comments from a German:
German history has in the past worked as a deterrent against giving the police and secret services too much power. But after 9/11 and with the generation that has lived under the Nazi regime gradually dying off, those lessons seem in danger of being forgotten.
The USA, however, have the "disadvantage" that they never had a dictatorship that was universally regarded as completely evil in hindsight. As a consequence, you guys over there have never learned these things the hard way and are (on average) way too trusting towards your government.
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With stuff like arbitrarily detaining people ("illegal combatants" who are denied a fair trial) and torture of prisoners I think you are closer to a Fourth Reich than Germany.
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The so called "disadvantage" isn't a real disadvantage. Why? People forget, generations go past. Old people die, young people are born. World War II will be a lesson as long as people who have lived during that era can tell something about it. That may be possible now but in about 30 years almost all people who went through that period will have died. Then, nobody can tell us about the horrors of WWII, the brutalities, the bombing raids, the razzias.
World War II will become like World War I, a forgotten war. As a joke I always use "Wilhelm II" as my avatar on every forum I am a member of. Nobody knows who "the guy with the weird moustache" is. Nobody is offended because it happened before any of us lived. The shockeffect is gone. 40 million people DIED in that war and I bet not even 1% can tell you who fought who.
It's a tragedy.
And the tragedy will return, but as a farce.
Nobody is safe from failings, people thinking that they are immune to making mistakes are wrong. You WILL support the wrong guy and he will take away your freedoms. You WILL cheer for the soldiers sent into a useless and bloody war. And the lessons will be learned by you and forgotten by your children.
I feel sorry for humanity.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power lost.
Aha, wery interestink, I tink hyu haff found de appropriate neurotic diagnozis! A new form of philia!
On a slightly more serious note, it seems the folks who get involved in such governmental shenanigans do indeed have a problem, though. Instead of lusting after kids, they lust after destroying civil liberties. To coin a new word, perhaps they should be labeled as katapnixiphiles? (katapnixi = repression)
Cheers,
"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."
Probably a bit better than the translated page:
http://wiki.piratenpartei.de/Press_release_2008-09-17
Also check out this mail to the Pirate Party International list:
http://lists.pirateweb.net/pipermail/pp.international.general/2008-September/001514.html
There are always exceptions.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20080916-1935-ca-immigrationrallyclash.html
No, instead we keep busy eliminating everyone else's dictatorships.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
No, instead we keep busy eliminating everyone else's dictatorships.
... when they don't side with the USA, while deposing democratically elected governments, when those do the same, and instituting US-friendly dictatorships (Iran, all over Latin America, etc).
tmegapscm
40 million people DIED in that war and I bet not even 1% can tell you who fought who.
Well duh, they're dead.
Most people at the time probably weren't too clear on who was fighting who. That war was a confused mess. As I understand it, a Bosnian shot an Austrian, so Austria declared war on Serbia, so Russia declared war on Austria, so Germany declared war on Russia, and knowing that would mean that France declared war on them they decided to declare war on France as well because doing them first fitted in better with their railway timetables, and Belgium too because they were in the way, so Britain declared war on Germany, and then everyone proceeded to kill each other for a few years.
And the leaders of that war weren't celebrities. Churchill, Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin were all larger-than-life figures. Memorable. Charismatic. The leaders of WW1 were nowhere near so media-friendly.
Real Daleks don't climb stairs - they level the building.
Government spies on YOU!
OK, OK, not as funny as Soviet Russia for some reason. And the Rooskies killed as many people.
The USA, however, have the "disadvantage" that they never had a dictatorship that was universally regarded as completely evil in hindsight. As a consequence, you guys over there have never learned these things the hard way and are (on average) way too trusting towards your government.
Interesting. But are you sure that collective memory w.r.t. past dictatorships still protects from repeating the same mistakes? Just talk to young Germans of the MTV generation (say teens and twens) about the current surveillance laws, and remind them of what Gestapo and Stasi did. Would you get them to take it to the streets and protest? Or would you mostly collect blank glances -- you know: the kind of face you get when someone tells you non-verbally "what the f*ck are your talking about???"
I'm afraid that collective memory is like a vaccine: if it's not refreshed every now and then, it loses its preventive effects, and history tends to repeat itself.
cpghost at Cordula's Web.
You know who else used to spy on Germans?
God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
As I said, it is an exception allowed in some place, just like self-defense is allowed in most places. A duel is distinguished by mutual consent. If you are going to allow risky sexual behavior between consenting adults, why not a traditional duel?
well, I guess we can't really blame everything on them.
Nah, we have George Bush for THAT.
Didn't you mean Carly Fiorina instead of George Bush ... but who the hell can tell the difference between them anyway.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
"And the leaders of that war weren't celebrities. Churchill, Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin were all larger-than-life figures. Memorable. Charismatic. The leaders of WW1 were nowhere near so media-friendly."
Celebrities are made, not born. From the age of around 8 you have been drowned in information about World War II. You are taught by teachers in schools, by going to musea, from television(documentaries) and newspapers(which desribe WWII as a major turning point). World War II is everywhere. No wonder that the people who were involved in WW2 Are many times more famous than people involved in WW1. If people had forgotten about WW1 after a few years, we wouldn't have had WW2.
And true, WW1 was complex but if nobody decides to teach you about it how are you supposed to know about it? WW1 does not exist as far as the media is concerned.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power lost.
The deterrent effect of German history? What about the STASI? They didn't get deterred! As I recall, they were pretty bad . . ..
Unfortunately, since the German minister of Interior is a paranoid, and the rest of the government is a flock of sheep, actions like this are currently tried to be "legalized" under the german "law. Fortunately there is a http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Karlsruhe-laesst-kaum-Raum-fuer-heimliche-Online-Durchsuchungen--/meldung/104134">high court (german website) that can have a final vote in such matters if a new law is disputed, but there is a lot of pressure to continue with those privacy-intruding measures in any possible way.
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I got yer Mama'a Trojan right here! In my wallet!
Yer the same sons of bitches who went round with party pins on yer coats, and rounded up trade unionists and sculptors and Catholic objectionists for torture. I laugh everytime one of you makes the grave. Because... Now you realize the extent of the evil you've done in this life.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
It's like the yearly flu epidemic. The fact that you get it gives rise to the antibodies that stay in your body to protect you for a while. Then you are vulnerable again
That has to be one of the best posts on /. today. WWI History - Cliff Notes Version.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Assumption is the biggest $*@#up of mother nature ... .. On the other hand .. Diversion always worked best before with us
humans; like it does now too for the general public... It's just too easy!
--- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
a good, open-source, alternative to skype. Otherwise, nobody is safe from the eavesdropping. Perhaps there's no skype for the iPhone because all the guys in Skype are busy looking at all that free porn they get.
Responding to first post for extra visibility. As usual, no time for proof-reading :P
[Federal trojan]: Pirate Party's Home Searched
The search for an informant from the Bavarian Ministry of Justice
Bavarian police officers have searched the home of the spokesman of the German Pirate Party, Ralph Hunderlach. They were searching for an informant from the Bavarian Ministry of Justice, who gave the privacy activists and computer experts information about the probably illegally used trojan to listen into skype conversations.
The Bavarian federal state government is pressuring the Pirate Party with the search of its spokesman's home. "The Bavarian authorities have worked without any legal foundation on a trojan and are now trying to silence their critics", said Udo Vetter, a lawyer and law-blogger to the Frankfurter Rundschau.
On September 11 at 5:45 [probably AM] police men appeared in the spokesman's home and threatened to remove every piece of furniture if he didn't tell them where he got the information. Hunderlach is at the same time political business man [WTF] of the Regional Association Bavaria of the Pirate Party. "His home was searched to find out the identify of the informant", said Thorsten Wirth, chair of the Pirate Party Hessen [a state in Germany] to Golem.de. It wasn't possible to reveal the search of his home earlier to the public because Hunderlach was busy with his job.
The person who gave the documents to the Pirate Party however was assured of the securedness of every bit of information that could identify him from unwanted access (by the Party). Another Pirate-activist's server that was also confiscated was also secured using strong encryption.
The question is "if there maybe might be an excess of governmental activity here", said the former Minister of the Interior Gerhart Baum (FDP), who is now a civil liberties activist to the Frankfurter Rundschau.
In January 2008 the Pirate Party was given a letter from the Bavarian Ministry of Justice, which included possible evidence of the use of a trojan to listen in on skype conversations and technical details about the employed software. According to the Party, the trojan is suitable for eavesdropping of VoIP conversations and should be able to be installed by police by e-mail or by accessing the system locally. Furthermore, the software can be changed or even deleted without leaving traces and allows access to internal properties of the Skype client and SSL-encrypted websites. "Now that this search has taken place, there's no doubt left about the genuineness of the letter", according to the Pirate Party.
"Some of our people [policemen/politicians] seem to be quite intent on implementing a police state", said Jens Seipenbusch, deputy chairman of the Pirates.
When it comes to defending itself, a Government can be truly frightful. They can take away your property (rezoning), your wife(abuse charges), your kids(child abuse charges) and almost anything they can think of. You can do nothing to protect yourself except in courts: Try defending yourself with a handgun when a SWAT team raid (illegally), and you would be lucky to escape alive, let alone unharmed.
Try protesting your innocence in a police station when you are roughly handcuffed and tossed into a cell containing hardened criminals.
And when finally courts rule against the government, the government goes scot-free by throwing your tax money back at you in compensation and escaping any other liability.
If you owe taxes to IRS, they can seize your home, imprison you and incarcerate you forever.
But if the government owes back taxes to you or any other money, you cannot walk in seize their property: its a sure way to get shot.
Which is why laws must be tit-for-tat.
All laws must be reciprocal. If the law allows the State to raid your home with just a no-show warrant, you should be able to do the same against them with same warrant and walk in with a few gun-slingers.
If the law allows state to seize your property for taxes with just a notice, you should be able to walk in and seize their property when they refuse to pay you.
Simple.
Roman laws were like that.
Its a pity it was not followed.
"Doing what i can, with what i have." ~ Burt Gummer
Partly, of course, you are right. People do die and things are forgotten or at least not as shocking to us after a few decades.
But you can be damn sure that the "class" with higher education (at least in Germany) knows who Willhelm II. is and they would also recognise him. Who was fighting in the war is also well known (maybe not ALL the participants, but the most important ones like Germany, Austria-Hungary, France, Russia etc.).
Some things never are forgotten (as long as history records remain intact), even though their impression on the present humanity gets weaker. But everyone (in Europe) still knows about the 30-years war, for example, because it was such a huge tragedy.
As a side note: according to Wikipedia.de "only" 10 million people died in WW I.
As a joke I always use "Wilhelm II" as my avatar on every forum I am a member of. Nobody knows who "the guy with the weird moustache" is. Nobody is offended because it happened before any of us lived. The shockeffect is gone. 40 million people DIED in that war and I bet not even 1% can tell you who fought who.
Maybe the reason for that is also that WWI is actually much more complex than WWII was in terms of who and what caused it, who's responsible and all that. With WWII, everything's clear - Germany attacked the rest of Europe. With WWI, it's not, and the USA, for example, refused to sign the treaty of Versailles specifically because they felt that it was unfair to put all the blame on Germany, as the treaty did.
If you'll allow an analogy, Europe before WWI was like a glass of superheated water - calm, but ready to react violently to the tiniest disturbance. And that's exactly what happened.
Wilhelm II was a shitty guy for many other reasons, but he was not a scourge of mankind the same way that Hitler was.
Good points. I'm a bit of a history buff myself and also lament the decline in knowledge of the Great War - and the popular conception of WWII is also desperately inadequate.
That said, I can think of a couple more reasons why WWI is particularly susceptible to forgetting, and why its "villains" are not more prominent in the public mind.
Firstly, the war was so long ago that it seems irrelevant to the modern mind. Unlike WWII, where the technology and even the name of the countries are roughly comparable to today, WWI was very primitive. For example, people today know what a modern tank looks like - when they see those weird trapezoid things crawling around over trenches they disconnect. It seems too long ago to be relevant. Ditto aircraft of the time, horses, the tactics in general .. it's all just too removed from the modern age.
Secondly, the lack of moving picture records. WWII movies may be B&W but at least they're watchable. What WWI even looked like is something you pretty much have to imagine.
Thirdly, despite the label "World War I", it really was pretty localised. It's difficult for people outside Europe to feel very personally connected to a war a long time ago on the other side of the world. This lack of global "appeal" leads to a reduction of popular media coverage, eg. films, compounding the effect.
Fourth, it lacks the accessible "drama" of WWII. Everyone can tell you how WWII began and ended. Even the layman knows which country Germany invaded first, or how America was dragged in - Pearl Harbour was a brilliant opening act, from a dramatic perspective! And no-one will forget how the war ended for Japan in a hurry.
WWI, on the other hand - even for afficionados its beginnings were a bit, for want of a better word, lame. Some guy gets shot in Austria. Right.
Lastly, WWI was awful, but it lacks the pure "evil" of WWII. Oh sure the fighting was inhumane; I would much rather have been a solider in WWII - but compared to the concentration camps, the atrocities against the Jews and by the Japanese, the Bomb - it just doesn't compare. You rightfully lament the lack of recognition of Ol' Willie the Deuce but he was no Hitler. The Kaiser was hardly a Prince of Peace, to be sure, but he wasn't exactly an Architect of Evil either.
Well, this is turning into a bit of an essay so I'll stop there. Anyway, it is regrettable that WWI is so forgotten in the modern age. The ignorance is unjustified, but it's easy to find reasons why it came about.
Let my new 7-digit UID be a lesson to all - write down your passwords.
This is actually huge
This is one of the reasons, why we are going to demonstrate on this Saturday, 20.Sept.2008 in Munich, Germany.
Informations (in german) : www.freiheit-weiss-blau.de.
We are going to have one english translated speech.
I've always preferred the idea of "If your children do not inherit your sins and guilt, they will recreate them." as opposed to that.
Because I keep reading stuff like that on /., let me clarify:
One of the principles of the German constitution, for obviously "historic reasons", is to protect itself (to simplify, you can think of the way that the Nazis got rid of the democratic constitution of the Weimar Republic as a hack).
This protection works both ways -- the most fundamental parts cannot be changed, and other basics can't be modified in a way that changes the original meaning. This also includes a clause that permits resistance, if all legal ways have been tried, against a government that abolishes it. But it also means that organizations that have the ultimate goal of abolishing it can be declared illegal (in practice this is rarely done, not to drive such organizations underground). The Nazi party and related organizations are obviously covered by that.
What is also covered, and what you probably mean, is the public display of symbols that represent anti-constitutional organizations, like the swastika, the SS runes, etc.
So, if you visit, don't plan on goose-stepping through Berlin with a swastika flag. What you can do, though, is to visit museums where you can see that in all it's "glory" -- display for educational or artistic purposes is perfectly legal. If you want to do a comedy show with a Hitler in uniform, including insignia, that's fine. A movie with a Nazi parade, no problem (as long as it's not something like a recruitment video, obviously). Original footage in history class is also OK, and very commonly used. A picture of Hitler in front of Nazi party flags over your bed (assuming it's not public), hey, whatever rocks your boat.
Just no public display outside of a historic or artistic context.
Lessons are forgotten even faster than you propose. We're in Vietnam all over again, only so brief a time later, and preparing for another once that is done.
People do not make these mistakes for a lack of memory, but for a lack of insight. Many people believe war solves problems, when in fact it doesn't - it creates them. That's why we declare war on drugs to solve drug addiction. Ask yourself, did declaring war solve that problem? Its as if people believe that only by declaring war can they motivate themselves to take action to improve things, yet war is not about improving things, but destroying them and attacking truth, the first casualty in any war. Now we declare "war on terror", while the overwhelming failure of war to solve problems sits at our very feet in the glaring present.
"We are all geniuses when we dream"
- E.M. Cioran
It's a proper name, not something you get to decide the spelling of as you wish. "The harbour" is not a proper name and therefore you can spell it the way you like. If I decide I always want to spell the word "city" as "sity", that doesn't change the name of New York City, you pompous douchebag. Fuck you.
The only way to communicate through skype privately is to use it to play WoW...and then subversively insert encrypted text once every hour or so....as for the chat of a guild doing raid for about 6 hours...it might get boring for them to listen in on...
"but he wasn't exactly an Architect of Evil either."
Leave Albert Speer out of this! ~
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power lost.
And this disturbing specimen, ladies and gentlemen, is a chilling reminder of the consequences of allowing an otherwise normal male to go without sex for upwards of five years ..
you pompous douchebag
It's the language I learnt at school and have spoken and written every day of my life, you crazy asshole. You have a minor point, but it's commonplace and completely undeserving of your ridiculous rant. The harbour of the city I live has the proper name "Sydney Harbour" but I often see Americans writing it without the "u". They should know better and so should have I, but your reaction is just insane.
Why don't you go home and think about what went so wrong in your life that you're reduced to writing crazy anonymous rants in response to minor spelling errors to people you've never met on Slashdot.
Let my new 7-digit UID be a lesson to all - write down your passwords.
And highly illegal. Nazi peaedophila ist verboten.
Did you learn something today? I hope so.
I enjoyed the fact that you had to resort to making assumptions about who I am based on a post on Slashdot. That's fun. Are you sure I'm male? Maybe I'm female and we can meet up and have a wild love affair, get married, have kids, and tell them all about how we met - "Oh, well your father was a fucking douche-nozzle and didn't know how to fucking spell Pearl Harbor." That'll be nice.
So, in conclusion: I made a completely correct point about your post and, being unable to find any fault with anything I said, you said that I don't get enough use out of my genitals. Who is the real asshole here?
Thanks for your post. I never understood the subtleties of the law. My closest experience with it was when the German government wanted to have copies of Mein Kampf removed from bookstores located in US military bases in Germany. It was an interesting situation.
Surely the Stasi is still fresh in some Germans' minds (though admittedly not those in Bavaria).
Who is the real asshole here?
You. Your "gentle correction" was completely over the top. It was a pointless, stupid rant - and how you can think someone is "pompous" for simply using normal British English defies belief.
I know your type too. You're a nobody in real life, you're frustrated with your boring life, but unable to change it. You deal with your frustration by trying to bring others down to your level, arguing viciously over minutiae as some kind of pathetic imitation of the challenge that eludes you in reality.
All you really achieve is wasting everyone's time. You've wasted a few minutes of mine today, but probably far more of your own. No great loss, you have nothing better to do, right?
You're not evil. I don't hate you - I'm not even angry. I understand only too well why you do what you do. But I am telling you - you are on the wrong path. You are going in the wrong direction.
I repeat - go do something better with your life. Annoying random people on websites is pretty fucking lame. Don't you think that deep down you have the potential to be better than this?
Go do something. Make some money. Do something cool. Girls dig that shit. "I spend my days being a jerk on Slashdot" isn't good enough. Why not make today the day that you go and make a change?
Let my new 7-digit UID be a lesson to all - write down your passwords.
Thanks for the advice chief. Calling people names on Slashdot is a hobby, just like any other. I'm quite pleased with my life but I appreciate your concern. Now - let's review - how do you spell Pearl Harbor?
Glad I could help. :)
"Mein Kapf" is a special case. It's actually illegal to publish or sell new copies -- because the state of Bavaria claims copyright. I don't know what will happen in 2015 (70 years after the author's death).
I gave up after the first chapter. Turns out he wasn't good at writing, either.
Now - let's review - how do you spell Pearl Harbor?
However the fuck I want to, loser.
Let my new 7-digit UID be a lesson to all - write down your passwords.
And another thing!Re-read that sentence. My point was that I wasn't using a gentle correction so your quotation of it makes no sense whatsoever. Christ on a Fucking Pogo Stick, you really need my help. First you've got the spelling issues and now you can't even fucking read for comprehension. I'm afraid this is a sure sign that you're sad with your life and want to kill yourself. But there's help out there for you, believe me.
Or maybe it's just that you're an idiot. Either way, your Internet slap-fighting skills are incredibly weak.
Or maybe only a fucking idiot would draw those conclusions and you should drink some bleach. Have a great day!
Unfortunately no. I was in Berlin a few weeks ago. Nobody could tell me where the Stasi Museum was. Not even when we were closer than 1km. And the Stasi museum is part of a HUGE complex.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power lost.
Thick-headed dullards like you won't respond to gentle corrections. I know your type. I'm on to you.
Did you learn something today? I hope so.
I enjoyed the fact that you had to resort to making assumptions about who I am based on a post on Slashdot. That's fun. Are you sure I'm male? Maybe I'm female and we can meet up and have a wild love affair, get married, have kids, and tell them all about how we met - "Oh, well your father was a fucking douche-nozzle and didn't know how to fucking spell Pearl Harbor." That'll be nice.
So, in conclusion: I made a completely correct point about your post and, being unable to find any fault with anything I said, you said that I don't get enough use out of my genitals. Who is the real asshole here?
There are no women on the internet.
Not calling you names, pal - just stating the facts.
And if by "bleach" you mean "icy cold Asahi Super Dry" then why yes, I think that's exactly what I'll do. Cheers! :)
PS. Pearl Harbour
Let my new 7-digit UID be a lesson to all - write down your passwords.
Enjoy the mod-bomb, idiot.
No Government has your best interests at heart, only their own. The best Government is the least Government, and the least Government is no Government at all (from a book by L. Neil Smith).
OMG bombs! That was like a digital Pearl Harbour!
At least the Germans haven't started taking people's laptops, phones, USB sticks and iPods as people enter the border.
Want to know the definition of police state? You don't have to look far -- you're LIVING IN ONE.