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Wal-Mart Ends DRM Support

An anonymous reader writes "So, you thought you did well to support the fledgling music industry by purchasing your tracks legally from the Wal-Mart store? Well, forget about moving these tracks to a new PC! Since they started selling DRM-free tracks last year, there's no money to be made in maintaining the DRM support systems, and in fact, support is being shut down. Make sure you circumvent the restrictions by burning the tracks to an old-fashioned CD before Wal-mart 'will no longer be able to assist with digital rights management issues for protected WMA files purchased from Walmart.com.' Support ends October 9th."

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  1. refund by poopdeville · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't know Wallyworld's terms of service, but are the customers within their rights to demand refunds?

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    1. Re:refund by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They can demand all they want. Doesn't mean they will get it. Also this is yet another reason why DRM is evil. There is no money in continuing to maintain the DRM servers once you stop selling music. Once whoever you buy from decides to stop support, you are out of luck. This is the third service that I have heard of shutting down. I'm sure more will come in the future. I'm not sure how long it will take for people to realize just how bad DRM is.

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    2. Re:refund by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So the moral of the story is that if you are willing to commit fraud you can get free cereal.

    3. Re:refund by poopdeville · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They can demand all they want. Doesn't mean they will get it.

      You ignored my question in favor of going on a rant.

      Obviously, they have the right to say what they want. I was asking if their demands are supported by law. Perhaps under an implied warranty of merchantability or fitness for purpose. Also, the TOS could have terms relating directly to the shutdown of the service.

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    4. Re:refund by Gandalf_Greyhame · · Score: 5, Funny

      Except in California, where EULAs are on some very shaky legal ground.

      EVERYTHING is on shaky ground in California http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs

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  2. A change. by Sasayaki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An interesting change in the wind. Suddenly, DRM is not just bad for consumers but good for re-sellers, where the cost of pissing off your clientele has to be weighed vs the cost of producing DRM-laden product, but aside from being utterly useless it actually harms the company directly by costing it money.

    This is something that companies will listen to- and quickly. I suspect that this begins the downward spiral of heavy-handed DRM.

    At least, I hope so...

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  3. HAHAHA tag? by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A lot of people said it, long ago. DRM won't work for this very reason (and many others) and now those who were legal, and honest, and bought DRM'd content have to suffer AGAIN. It's not just Wal-Mart, how many other content providers also shut down, or screwed their customers by dropping or changing the DRM.

    Me? I'm still sitting back, waiting for the industry to calm down and pull their heads out. Punishing the customer won't stop the criminals, never will. Now that the US Dollar is about to be worth ... next to nothing, they will have to kiss customer's asses to get them to spend money. We'll see how this all plays out. Even the DOJ doesn't like the **AA's game plan. It's falling apart on them. Wal-Mart is NOT a small retailer. This is a large nail in the coffin that DRM will be put to rest in.

    1. Re:HAHAHA tag? by rohan972 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Anyone with ideas on how to educate the general population [on DRM]?

      Shut down the Wal-Mart DRM servers.

  4. Almost had to re-buy all of their music... by Doug52392 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My sister (who is obsessed with music) bought hundreds of dollars worth of music from Wal-Mart's music downloading service. Recently, her MP3 player started acting strange and refused to play any DRM songs, so I had to reformat the whole MP3 player and resync all of her music to it. (There was also serious filesystem corruption)

    If Wal-Mart had ended their DRM support yesterday...

  5. Re:DRM is dead by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

    DRM Collector: Bring out yer dead.
    Wal-Mart: Here's one.
    DRM Collector: That'll be seventy-nine cents.
    DRM'ed WMA File: I'm not dead.
    DRM Collector: What?
    Wal-Mart: Nothing. There's your seventy-nine cents.
    DRM'ed WMA File: I'm not dead!
    DRM Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
    Wal-Mart: Yes he is.
    DRM'ed WMA File: I'm not!
    DRM Collector: He isn't.
    Wal-Mart: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
    DRM'ed WMA File: I'm getting better.
    Wal-Mart: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
    DRM Collector: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
    DRM'ed WMA File: I don't want to go on the cart.
    Wal-Mart: Oh, don't be such a baby.
    DRM Collector: I can't take him.
    DRM'ed WMA File: I feel fine.
    Wal-Mart: Oh, do me a favor.
    The Dead Collector: I can't.
    Wal-Mart: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
    DRM Collector: I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine thousand music files today.
    Wal-Mart: Well, when's your next round?
    DRM Collector: Thursday.
    DRM'ed WMA File: I think I'll go for a walk.
    Wal-Mart: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do?
    DRM'ed WMA File: I feel happy! I feel happy!
    [the DRM Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the DRM'ed WMA File with his a whack of his club]
    Wal-Mart: Ah, thank you very much.
    DRM Collector: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
    Wal-Mart: Right.

  6. Vote of no confidence by Skapare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    DRM cannot be trusted. DRM retailers cannot be trusted to keep up the support. This is why people should never buy DRM.

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  7. Unexpected by Minervine · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Having purchased a DRM track from Wal-Mart a long time ago to try out the service, I received an e-mail recently from them about the service shutdown. Interestingly enough, they provided this advice to users:

    If you have purchased protected WMA music files from our site prior to Feb 2008, we strongly recommend that you back up your songs by burning them to a recordable audio CD. By backing up your songs, you will be able to access them from any personal computer.

    I didn't expect them to okay users to resort to the analog-hole, something that many companies and legislators have been trying to stop for years. Will other DRM services be this forgiving when they shut down their servers?

  8. Why not replace the DRM'ed songs with non-DRM'ed? by ktappe · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I don't understand why they don't do the obvious--replace all customers' DRM'ed songs with the equivalent non-DRM'ed copy. Customers have their same tracks, WallyWorld doesn't have to maintain their DRM servers.

    Oh, wait....the RIAA won't get to double-dip customers if that happens. Now I see.

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  9. And EA wonders... by Sniper511 · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...why we have a problem with their newest DRM model.

    (Yes, I'm aware they claim they'll release a patch before they turn off the servers, but if they go bankrupt tomorrow and can't PAY anyone to develop said patch, then what?)

  10. Another one bites the dust by fsterman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why isn't there a tracker page at Defective By Design for how many of these DRM services have died? Google's video, Yahoo's music service, MSN Music, MTV, MLB.tv, CSS, etc?

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  11. DRM Escrow by peterofoz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Companies that sell or license products with the built in DRM time bomb should have to put the keys to that product into a software escrow. The escrow acts as a kind of insurance against the company going out of business or to discontinue the service. This approach has been used by large companies for years to ensure the source code for the expensive new core system they bought from a start up would be around if the start up should fail. This will probably take some kind of government regulation to make it happen because individual consumers are too small to push this through. Anyone want to start such a service? It would probably just involve parking some servers in a data center with 2 or 3 spares in the box and maintaining them for 20 years. We can call it The National Museum of DRM Failure.

  12. Re:DRM is dead by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Informative

    While I agree that fairplay is likely to be around for a fair while yet, it isn't all that structurally different from the DRM used in this case. Subscription service WMDRM phones home frequently, so a shutdown of the activation servers will actively hose you within 30 days or so; but ordinary "purchased" WMDRM tracks are playable for the life of activated machines, as with fairplay. If fairplay activation servers went down, you'd be exactly as hosed as the people in TFA(which is to say, as soon as you need to activate a new device).

  13. support isn't free by Chewbacon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is just an expected downfall to DRM. Why sell something you'd have to continue supporting when you could just sell something with little or no support such as DRM-free music? It's for the better. Every time I hear those three letters I roll my eyes.

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