So, unable to dispute the simple evidence placed before you, you resort once again to name calling. Truly this must be the mark of a superior intelligence.
Anyway, its been fun, but unless you are able to refute what has been said (that means provide evidence that I am indeed wrong, not simple name calling) than I fear that our conversation must come to an end.
Funny thing is, it is people like yourself who make me question the global climate change issue as it is obvious that you believe with a religious fervor. That and the fact that they have oversold it.
Simple timeline, all with the exact same data:
1970s: The evidence shows that since the turn of the century global temperatures have been steadily decreasing and the world is heading towards an ice-age
1980s-1990s: The evidence shows that since the turn of the century global temperatures have been steadily increasing and we are heading towards disaster. The polar caps are melting
2000-Current: Global climate is changing. The polar caps are getting thicker and this is because of temperatures increasing.
This is all using the same data. Yes, scientific models change over time, but I still can't help but feel that they are playing poker and telling the everyone that they are holding 2 aces in their hand when there are 3 of them on the table.
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/READER/temp_html/maat.html go there and tell me that there is no missing data. Truly you have been drinking the kool-aid and have succumbed to the church of climatology if you can see no missing data. This is not uncommon, and if (as I stated earlier) you looked at the other stations, you will see even more missing data points.
your Jedi mind trick doesn't work mate, look at the data (as I said I have only looked at the antarctic data sets so far) and you will find months and even years of data that is not there
I have yet to finish reading through it all (to be honest I only just started and started with the antarctica.ac.uk link) and I would like to bring to your attention the missing data sets contained therein. Actually there are only a couple of stations that have recent figures at all, and of those that do have recent figures (within the past decade) they are missing a number of monthly, and even yearly, figures.
Perhaps I am an idiot. I will admit that. But with your help I now have a much greater ability to form my own opinion on the subject.
Yes, I forgot the persuasive power of abuse. Clearly your intelligence is unparalleled and should not be questioned. So, where pray tell is the raw data? if you can find me a link to the raw unaltered data then I retract my statement
A liar? Nothing that I wrote there is a lie unless you can, as stated above, produce the raw unaltered data.
I will admit, and concede that both sides of the debate (yeah, this is supposed to be a debate, not merely an abuse session) stand to profit. The oil companies, etc. can expect to profit from the status quo, and the "OMFG THE WORLD IS GONNA END" crowd are profiting from scaremongering.
Yes I know that this too will be modded down, because it has become apparent that actual thought is discouraged on Slashdot these days and we must follow the herd mentality.
Yet the media is not reporting on the raw data as the raw data was deleted. Instead the data that is being reported on has been altered to fit the model*. Without having the raw data to fall back on and reassess the model it throws doubt upon the entire theory, at least in those who are able to think for themselves. If the original raw data was still available then the theory could be proven or dis-proven. As it currently stands we merely have 2 sides yelling at one another calling the other group a bunch of morons.
Personally I am a bit skeptical of the man made climate change theory. My skepticism comes from the lack of raw data and if I am completely honest, a bit of conspiracy-theory-tin-foiled-hattedness. As they say, "follow the money." Who is it that is profiting from the climate change argument? Simple answer: climate change scientists. The same climate change scientists who deleted the raw data.
* How much it has been altered is unknown. Perhaps it is only a little, perhaps it is a lot.
problem is they would probably focus on vocal chord support first, as they would deem it more important to get feedback from the robot than a decent user experience
Yeah, Aussie slang is pretty easy to get the hang of, merely cut the word in half and add "ie" at the end of it. That probably amounts to 95% of Aussie slang
In the case that a citation is required, is it enough to say that I am Australian
[sigh] [pointing-out-stupidity] 2000-2010 is 11 years [/pointing-out-stupidity]
Now that that is over, perhaps it is best to listen to the sage advice of Douglas Adams.
instead of saying that we have got the end of the millennium (or bi-millennium) wrong, we should say that our ancestors got the beginning of it wrong, and that we've only just sorted the mess out before starting a new mess of our own ["Unfinished Business of the Century" by Douglas Adams, first published in "The Independent on Sunday" November 1999]
Just substitute "millennium" with "decade" and it still rings true.
Also I would like to ask you this question: "so what if we end up with a 9 year decade way back in 1-9AD? What difference does it make to our lives now?"
The most important thing to do in London is simple - Monopoly board pub crawl. Start at Old Kent road and work your way up to Mayfair. One pub per street on the Monopoly board
Since Psystar isn't stealing Apple's customers, why bother with a lengthy suit?
the simple reason is this: support. Apple are able to provide adequate, functional support for the systems that they sell because they know what hardware configuration the system is running and that the various components have been tested to some degree.
For Apple to provide support to those running OSX on non-Apple hardware, it would require a significant amount of money to be spent. Essentially, it is much cheaper for them to go to court to have Psystar stopped from selling Hackintosh computers, then it would be for them to support the users who use said computers.
Virus - meaning of "agent that causes infectious disease" Cancer is not infectious, ergo cancer is not a virus
This just in, tin foil hats cause the following:
* Stupid inane comments * Uninformed decisions * Leaping to conclusions * Paranoia * Annoia * Repetitive posting in the hope that it won't be marked as a troll eventually * Trolling * A sub 50 IQ * The inability to reason
You do realise that the source that you have cited is a website called "Fluscam" right? When making a reasoned and informed decision on anything you must, I repeat MUST, consult an unbiased source. Visiting "fluscam" for any information regarding influenza vaccines would be akin to asking a creationist how old the world is - you are not going to get an informed, intelligent answer.
I've contacted ISP's about their customers attempting to "hack me" because they were infested with Code Red and Nimda and for some reason my Apache server on Linux looked incredibly tasty. They of course proceeded to ignore me and not even to contact their customers.
I had a similar experience at University. I was living on campus and had my Apache server running along nicely on my Linux box, and kept on getting these weird error logs. As soon as I saw it I had a feeling that it was Code Red, so I checked up on the net just to confirm. It was. So I then traced it back to its source - one of the University's own computers. I contacted the Uni's IT staff and informed them that they had a machine that was infected with Code Red. Do you know what response they gave me?
"It isn't our machine that is infected. Your machine is the infected one."
For anyone who didn't read the above properly, or can't be bothered going back over it again, I was running Apache on Linux and the Code Red worm infected Microsoft IIS Web Servers.
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So, unable to dispute the simple evidence placed before you, you resort once again to name calling. Truly this must be the mark of a superior intelligence.
Anyway, its been fun, but unless you are able to refute what has been said (that means provide evidence that I am indeed wrong, not simple name calling) than I fear that our conversation must come to an end.
Funny thing is, it is people like yourself who make me question the global climate change issue as it is obvious that you believe with a religious fervor. That and the fact that they have oversold it.
Simple timeline, all with the exact same data:
1970s: The evidence shows that since the turn of the century global temperatures have been steadily decreasing and the world is heading towards an ice-age
1980s-1990s: The evidence shows that since the turn of the century global temperatures have been steadily increasing and we are heading towards disaster. The polar caps are melting
2000-Current: Global climate is changing. The polar caps are getting thicker and this is because of temperatures increasing.
This is all using the same data. Yes, scientific models change over time, but I still can't help but feel that they are playing poker and telling the everyone that they are holding 2 aces in their hand when there are 3 of them on the table.
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/READER/temp_html/maat.html go there and tell me that there is no missing data. Truly you have been drinking the kool-aid and have succumbed to the church of climatology if you can see no missing data. This is not uncommon, and if (as I stated earlier) you looked at the other stations, you will see even more missing data points.
LOOK before you speak
your Jedi mind trick doesn't work mate, look at the data (as I said I have only looked at the antarctic data sets so far) and you will find months and even years of data that is not there
I have yet to finish reading through it all (to be honest I only just started and started with the antarctica.ac.uk link) and I would like to bring to your attention the missing data sets contained therein. Actually there are only a couple of stations that have recent figures at all, and of those that do have recent figures (within the past decade) they are missing a number of monthly, and even yearly, figures.
Perhaps I am an idiot. I will admit that. But with your help I now have a much greater ability to form my own opinion on the subject.
Missing data sets are still a worry however.
Yes, I forgot the persuasive power of abuse. Clearly your intelligence is unparalleled and should not be questioned. So, where pray tell is the raw data? if you can find me a link to the raw unaltered data then I retract my statement
A liar? Nothing that I wrote there is a lie unless you can, as stated above, produce the raw unaltered data.
I will admit, and concede that both sides of the debate (yeah, this is supposed to be a debate, not merely an abuse session) stand to profit. The oil companies, etc. can expect to profit from the status quo, and the "OMFG THE WORLD IS GONNA END" crowd are profiting from scaremongering.
Yes I know that this too will be modded down, because it has become apparent that actual thought is discouraged on Slashdot these days and we must follow the herd mentality.
Yet the media is not reporting on the raw data as the raw data was deleted. Instead the data that is being reported on has been altered to fit the model*. Without having the raw data to fall back on and reassess the model it throws doubt upon the entire theory, at least in those who are able to think for themselves. If the original raw data was still available then the theory could be proven or dis-proven. As it currently stands we merely have 2 sides yelling at one another calling the other group a bunch of morons.
Personally I am a bit skeptical of the man made climate change theory. My skepticism comes from the lack of raw data and if I am completely honest, a bit of conspiracy-theory-tin-foiled-hattedness. As they say, "follow the money." Who is it that is profiting from the climate change argument? Simple answer: climate change scientists. The same climate change scientists who deleted the raw data.
* How much it has been altered is unknown. Perhaps it is only a little, perhaps it is a lot.
"That's no moon!" /obligatory
This is a moon - (_._)
problem is they would probably focus on vocal chord support first, as they would deem it more important to get feedback from the robot than a decent user experience
Yes, please, where do I swipe my card?
Trust me, you don't want to know
and I think most police would actually laugh at you if you told them they are pubic servants.
I think everyone would laugh at you if you told them that ;)
Tell him he's dreamin'
Tell him to get stuffed
Yeah, Aussie slang is pretty easy to get the hang of, merely cut the word in half and add "ie" at the end of it. That probably amounts to 95% of Aussie slang
In the case that a citation is required, is it enough to say that I am Australian
Gran Tourismo 5 (which I fear is going to suffer the same fate as DNF)
yes, but you have to clean up yourself afterwards
The simplest solution to the problem would be the following:
Insert a drive by download into a popular webpage that will cause IE to download, install and set to default Firefox. Extra points for disabling IE.
I am sure that someone here is able to do that ;)
Disclaimer: The above is merely me thinking out loud. I accept no responsibility for anyone doing anything like this.
All that is gold does not glitter
[sigh] [pointing-out-stupidity] 2000-2010 is 11 years [/pointing-out-stupidity]
Now that that is over, perhaps it is best to listen to the sage advice of Douglas Adams.
instead of saying that we have got the end of the millennium (or bi-millennium) wrong, we should say that our ancestors got the beginning of it wrong, and that we've only just sorted the mess out before starting a new mess of our own ["Unfinished Business of the Century" by Douglas Adams, first published in "The Independent on Sunday" November 1999]
Just substitute "millennium" with "decade" and it still rings true.
Also I would like to ask you this question: "so what if we end up with a 9 year decade way back in 1-9AD? What difference does it make to our lives now?"
I think you'll find that he is referring to a "column-shift" gear selector.
there's an Emacs command for that
The most important thing to do in London is simple - Monopoly board pub crawl. Start at Old Kent road and work your way up to Mayfair. One pub per street on the Monopoly board
Or even better have Apple simply drop this case.
Since Psystar isn't stealing Apple's customers, why bother with a lengthy suit?
the simple reason is this: support. Apple are able to provide adequate, functional support for the systems that they sell because they know what hardware configuration the system is running and that the various components have been tested to some degree.
For Apple to provide support to those running OSX on non-Apple hardware, it would require a significant amount of money to be spent. Essentially, it is much cheaper for them to go to court to have Psystar stopped from selling Hackintosh computers, then it would be for them to support the users who use said computers.
cancer virus
Virus - meaning of "agent that causes infectious disease"
Cancer is not infectious, ergo cancer is not a virus
This just in, tin foil hats cause the following:
* Stupid inane comments
* Uninformed decisions
* Leaping to conclusions
* Paranoia
* Annoia
* Repetitive posting in the hope that it won't be marked as a troll eventually
* Trolling
* A sub 50 IQ
* The inability to reason
You do realise that the source that you have cited is a website called "Fluscam" right? When making a reasoned and informed decision on anything you must, I repeat MUST, consult an unbiased source. Visiting "fluscam" for any information regarding influenza vaccines would be akin to asking a creationist how old the world is - you are not going to get an informed, intelligent answer.
I was thinking more along the lines of euthanasia.
I'm pretty sure that the youth-in-asia would also be quite annoyed with his attempts to ban games
$388M was the original figure that was awarded
$388M minus *cough* court costs *wink*
means that Microsoft are getting $338M back
I'm kidding
I've contacted ISP's about their customers attempting to "hack me" because they were infested with Code Red and Nimda and for some reason my Apache server on Linux looked incredibly tasty. They of course proceeded to ignore me and not even to contact their customers.
I had a similar experience at University. I was living on campus and had my Apache server running along nicely on my Linux box, and kept on getting these weird error logs. As soon as I saw it I had a feeling that it was Code Red, so I checked up on the net just to confirm. It was. So I then traced it back to its source - one of the University's own computers. I contacted the Uni's IT staff and informed them that they had a machine that was infected with Code Red. Do you know what response they gave me?
"It isn't our machine that is infected. Your machine is the infected one."
For anyone who didn't read the above properly, or can't be bothered going back over it again, I was running Apache on Linux and the Code Red worm infected Microsoft IIS Web Servers.