HD Wii By 2011?

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Posted by Soulskill on Tuesday September 30, 2008 @05:10PM from the wiisearch-and-development dept.

1Up noticed an interesting post up at WhatTheyPlay which put together some public information with more from private sources suggesting that the next version of the Wii console is planned for 2011. Quoting: "Unlike previous console transitions from Nintendo, the new system will be presented as a true successor to the Wii, and is being dubbed by those that have seen the presentation as 'Wii HD.' There is no indication if this will be its eventual name, but the nature of the transition has been characterized as similar to 'the shift from Game Boy to Game Boy Advance,' where familiar, key elements were left intact while the core hardware was made more powerful. It is expected by all those that we have spoken to on the subject that the new device will retain the Wii name in part."

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Let me guess... by Malevolyn · 2008-09-30 17:14 · Score: 4, Funny

The HDii? Hurr hurr.

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1. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 17:28 · Score: 1, Funny
  
  More likely the Nii, this is a Japanese company we're talking about.
2. Re:Let me guess... by philspear · 2008-09-30 17:34 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  As of today, it is now standard operating procedure that the first post gets modded as troll.
  Back on topic, as much as I liked the name "revolution" (the name before "wii"), it's probably a good thing they didn't go with that. It still would have sold the same, they still would have wanted to capitalize on that by keeping the name on their next one, and you can't serialize that. The next revolution? Nintendo super revolution? Second generation revolution?
  My money is on "Evewiione." "Wii" was supposed to be some crap about "we" like a community, so this would top that.
3. Re:Let me guess... by philspear · 2008-09-30 17:38 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  I like that one too, but "wii" isn't a japanese word. In fact, that's not even sound that's native to the language. At least, that's what I heard when it was announced. The last time I was in japan was when the DS was launching, does anyone know if they pronounce it the same over there? I don't know if that would be a difficult sound for them. I would guess they actually say "uii" or something that uses the U sound instead of the W.
  If you're wondering, to express happiness, the japanese do not say "wee!" they say "Yatta!"
4. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 18:02 · Score: 0
  
  I say 'Wii Revolution'. Obviously, they were holding that name in reserve for something.
  In reference to a comment made earlier about 'Wii' not being a natural? Japanese word/sound, That's true; but because of the popularity of Western culture over there (if they want to appear cool, they use 'borrow words', such as 'buruu', rather than 'aoi') it's not uncommon to have foreign sounds. There is a specific way to kana-rize 'wii' something like a normal katakana 'u', followed by a small (modifying) katakana 'i' and the either a normal katakana 'i', or an extending dash*, I think.
  *I'd put the actual Japanese text, but it doesn't display here
5. Re:Let me guess... by philspear · 2008-09-30 18:08 · Score: 1
  
  To clarify the AC's post, I asked that in a different post. Also Aoi means blue, the japanese pronunciation of which is more like "buruu" because of a lack of an L sound.
  Mostly though, I wanted to point out that I was right on the money about the "uii"!!! WOOO!
  Wii revolution though doesn't "sound like" a different product. That's the one thing I could see about the revolution making a comeback. If I were to see "Wii revolution" I would think its a redesign of the wii, but still basically the same thing, like the DS lite. I'd probably think "Oh, a wii that has a hard drive or something. Don't need that!"
6. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 19:07 · Score: 0
  
  Actually, I was envisioning the marketing campaign (which, if you've read/seen a sufficient number of Japanese marketing campaigns can be rather painful).
  I can see it now; the bright flashing symbols and canned cheering and applause as a brightly grinning announcer exclaims, with the appropriate backing of drums and gongs, "Wii (have a) Revolution!"
  More seriously, I doubt it's of any use to try to predict the name this time; after all, who saw a name like the 'Wii' coming? 'Gambecube', yes, 'D(ual) S(creen)', yes, 'GameBoy', yes. 'Wii'? Talk about out from left field.
7. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-09-30 19:14 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  Wii is what you get after two layers of lossy translation between character sets.
  English -> Katakana -> Romanization of katakana
  We -> (wa)(i[small])(-) -> Wii
  The Japanese do pronounce it "Wii". It's written that way because it's how the japanese people pronounce "we" and most closely fits how they think. It's not pronounced "Uii" because that would be a 3 syllable word instead of 2. Go study the Hepburn romanization system if you don't believe me.
  DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese. It requires a special letter combination like "wi" does. The only people who might have a problem with it are old people.
  
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8. Re:Let me guess... by MiharuSenaKanaka · 2008-09-30 19:25 · Score: 1
  
  I don't think it was meant to even sound like a Japanese word to the non-japanese-speaking public.
  
  From what I can tell, the main point of the name "Wii" (according to the commercials Nintendo cranks out on occasion, anyway) is to emphasize that playing games with the console is not just an "I" thing -- it's also a "we" thing, that you can get a lot of fun out of playing with other people. Not the same context as "yatta!" would be used, as far as I know.
  
  Though, if they named it the "Nii" I for one would be highly amused as it is a shortened, "cutesy" version of one of the words for older brother.
9. Re:Let me guess... by kubrick · 2008-09-30 19:52 · Score: 1
  
  'Wiivolution', surely.
  
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10. Re:Let me guess... by aliquis · 2008-09-30 19:53 · Score: 1
  
  DS ritu!
11. Re:Let me guess... by aliquis · 2008-09-30 19:58 · Score: 1
  
  Since it's a Nintendo product isn't whatever way the Japanese people say it the "right" way and the english way the wrong one? =P
  That does not compute from the way the words come from, but on the other side when it comes to games and all they seem to have a huge focus on the japanese market, so ..
12. Re:Let me guess... by Neeth · 2008-09-30 21:07 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  Easy one. The WiiII it will be.
  
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13. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 21:11 · Score: 0
  
  more like "buruu" because of a lack of an L sound.
  There's also the lack of an r sound, the actual sound made when you see either of those in a japanese word is somewhere between an r, an l, and a d.
14. Re:Let me guess... by ShakaUVM · 2008-09-30 21:18 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  My vote is for the Nintendo "About Fucking Time".
  Seriously, the Wii is only good for party games; the graphics are so ugly that I can't bring myself to buy anything for it that isn't for 4 people.
15. Re:Let me guess... by Solra+Bizna · 2008-09-30 22:45 · Score: 2, Interesting
  
  Personally, I find 480p quite sufficient, and I have a screen almost as big diagonally as I am tall.
  Then again, I play Unreal at 320x240 on a system with a Radeon 9800, on purpose. So, maybe I'm just insane.
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16. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 23:12 · Score: 0
  
  I say 'Wii Revolution'. Obviously, they were holding that name in reserve for something.
  Come on. Everybody knows the Wii Revolution will be its third incarnation. We'll get Wii Reloaded first (WiiLoaded).
  /lame
17. Re:Let me guess... by master5o1 · 2008-09-30 23:31 · Score: 1
  
  The only people who might have a problem with it are old people.
  Last I heard Japan had an ageing population. Does that mean that most Japanese find it hard to pronounce?
  
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18. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 23:37 · Score: 0
  
  Long ago, there was a character for wi (at least, it was romanized that way). But it dissapeared after WWII, along with a couple others, if I am not misstaken.
  wi -> ã
19. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 23:51 · Score: 0
  
  they will make WiiWii.
20. Re:Let me guess... by iTowelie · 2008-10-01 00:00 · Score: 1
  
  The reason why Nintendo didn't go with Revolution was because 1984 called and served Nintendo with a DMCA cease and desist letter from Prince and the Revolution. Reports indicate Prince then made Charlie Murphy some pancakes.
  
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21. Re:Let me guess... by Rocketship+Underpant · 2008-10-01 00:09 · Score: 1
  
  You're more or less correct. The 'w' sound doesn't exist before the 'i' sound in any Japanese word, so they tend to say something like "uii".
  Most Japanese people are familiar with the English word "we", but since Japanese itself doesn't have personal pronouns in the same grammatical sense English does, they tend to think of "we" as meaning "everyone". For another example of this, look at the slogan for Katamari Damacy, "we love Katamari".
  
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22. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 00:14 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  Uhm. I hate to tell you this, but pretty much everything you just said is just plain wrong.
  http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii lists the pronounciation as "(u)(small i)(-)", which would be romanized as "uii" in the informal waapuro romanization popular on the net (nobody uses Hepburn, because nobody knows how to type macrons).
  "(wa)(small i)(-)" is not a letter combination that is ever used except by people trying to be cute when spelling "wai".
  I don't even know what you mean by "DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese.". It's prounced "(de)(small i)(-)(e)(su)", which certainly doesn't match the English pronounciation perfectly by any means.
23. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 00:16 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Maybe there's something wrong with your eyes.
24. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 00:26 · Score: 0
  
  If you're wondering, to express happiness, the japanese do not say "wee!" they say "Yatta!"
  They don't say "wii!" they say "wai!"
25. Re:Let me guess... by Chaos+Incarnate · 2008-10-01 00:30 · Score: 1
  
  "Maybe"? No, you are insane. ;) Unreal is absolutely beautiful at 1280x1024 (the max my monitor can display) on a Radeon 9000, if you overlook the low polygon count.
  
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26. Re:Let me guess... by nmg196 · 2008-10-01 00:53 · Score: 1
  
  They should have called the first one the "Wi". That way the successors would be more easily namable:
  Wi
  Wii
  Wiii
  Wiv
  Wv
  Wvi ...
27. Re:Let me guess... by squiggleslash · 2008-10-01 01:40 · Score: 1
  
  Wii revolution though doesn't "sound like" a different product.
  
  The summary is kind of confusing in the way it's worded, but I think that's the intention, FWIW, the new Wii will be an improved version of the old Wii, not an entirely different product. Even though the Gamecube and Wii are similar underneath, the Wii was intended to be seen by everyone as something unrelated to the Gamecube. That will not be the case with the next Wii.
  I think Revolution is a little cheesy and a little unsubtle though. What's needed is something that hints at a revolution. Perhaps something circular. A count, perhaps, of the number of degrees in a full circle, to imply you've gone through one whole revolution?
  Yes, the "Nintendo Wii 360." What could possibly go wrong?
  
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28. Re:Let me guess... by Atriqus · 2008-10-01 02:11 · Score: 1
  
  You think that's hot, try playing it at 640x480 on a NeoMagic 256zx. You get pixelation AND a slideshow, it's the best of both worlds.
  
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29. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 02:16 · Score: 0
  
  More like the Monii.
30. Re:Let me guess... by PeanutButterBreath · 2008-10-01 02:16 · Score: 1
  
  You're more or less correct. The 'w' sound doesn't exist before the 'i' sound in any Japanese word, so they tend to say something like "uii".
  I think you are confusing the lack of a concise method of representing a sound in writing with the inability to pronounce it with perfectly reasonable fluency. (There is a "wi" character, though it is long deprecated.) Its not like Japanese people are physiologically incapable of making the sound.
  As far as "we" vs. "everyone" -- "watashi-tachi" vs. "minna-tachi"?
31. Re:Let me guess... by Skrapion · 2008-10-01 02:45 · Score: 1
  
  the japanese pronunciation of which is more like "buruu" because of a lack of an L sound.
  Eh, they don't really lack an L sound, but they do lack an L letter. Japanese Rs sound an awful lot like English Ls.
  So if you wanted to write "blue" in (Romanized) Japanese, you would write it as "buruu", but it would sound more like "buluu" (and if you keep repeating it long enough it starts to sound like "baloo").
  (For the discerning readers, I'm being simplistic; the Japanese R syllables do still have a little bit of the English R sound in them. Imagine trying to say R and L at the same time, followed by any vowel.)
  
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32. Re:Let me guess... by Skrapion · 2008-10-01 02:49 · Score: 1
  
  Or they could have used a U for the first one, and a Double-U for the second one. It would go:
  Uii
  Wii
  Wuii
  Wwii
  Actually, on second thought, the Japanese might not want to release a console called the WWII.
  
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33. Re:Let me guess... by Rocketship+Underpant · 2008-10-01 02:54 · Score: 1
  
  Generally speaking, any vowel, diphthong or on-glide that does not exist for any words in one's native language is difficult to pronounce without training. There are plenty of sounds in Japanese and other languages that English-speakers are physiologically capable of making, yet cannot without help.
  Naturally Japanese has numerous words for expressing groups of people that may or may not include the speaker; but living in Japan and having seen more than enough slogans and brand names that attempt to use words like "we", I stand by my observation that it tends to mean "everyone" or "we all" when a Japanese person uses it. Likewise, "my" tends to mean "personal", as in "maikaa", meaning a vehicle for personal use.
  
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34. Re:Let me guess... by blindd0t · 2008-10-01 03:02 · Score: 1
  
  Here's a great example of its use: Yatta!
35. Re:Let me guess... by rkanodia · 2008-10-01 03:20 · Score: 1
  
  That usage of 'my' is not at all limited to Japan. I mean, it's not like the creator of myspace.com was trying to say that it was 'my' 'space'. They meant, it's a personal space for each person who uses it.
36. Re:Let me guess... by NemosomeN · 2008-10-01 03:24 · Score: 1
  
  That's not right. Name in Japanese is Minna daisuki katamari, or something like that, literally "Katamari is everyone's favorite" but it could have easily been "Bokura (Watashitachi, wareware, various other awkward but acceptable "we"s) daisuki katamari" Which would be We instead of everyone, and in Japanese there is the same distinction. Also, Wii in Japanese probably sounds almost identical to English-speakers, as would DS (Di- essu, but the u is barely heard)
  
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37. Re:Let me guess... by philspear · 2008-10-01 03:26 · Score: 1
  
  Go study the Hepburn romanization system if you don't believe me.
  I do believe you, which is unfortunate, because the "Hepburn romanization system" sounds like it would be TONS of fun to study!
38. Re:Let me guess... by PeanutButterBreath · 2008-10-01 03:35 · Score: 1
  
  Generally speaking, any vowel, diphthong or on-glide that does not exist for any words in one's native language is difficult to pronounce without training. There are plenty of sounds in Japanese and other languages that English-speakers are physiologically capable of making, yet cannot without help.
  This is technically true, but not convincing in this case. I'm sure you are aware the "one's native language" is far less meaningful when speaking of a Japanese speaker than an English speaker, given the multitude of non-native words that have been in common usage for over a century if you only consider "Western" influence and over a thousand years if you count Chinese.
  You also specify "difficult to pronounce without training". Is foreign language training a rarity in Japan?
  There are certainly some sounds that are not shared between Japanese and English, but I would not say that there are "plenty", and of the few that exist I would not expect "wi" to present a particular challenge.
  As far as interpreting the depth of Japanese expression based on slogans and brands, that seems like a dubious proposition. There are plenty of instances where common parlance favors faddish terms, often foreign derived. That does not mean that there is no Japanese equivalent ("maikaa" being a perfect example).
39. Re:Let me guess... by philspear · 2008-10-01 03:36 · Score: 1
  
  Its not like Japanese people are physiologically incapable of making the sound.
  I would hope that the japanese biochemistry would allow them to make that sound, it would be pretty weird if it didn't! Sorry, I jest, and that's probably not even an incorrect use of "physiological." But in any event, I can't roll my R's like they do in spanish, I can't make the umlaut sound for german, and those are just the sounds I've run into while speaking only english my whole life. I've heard babies can and do make most sounds used in all languages, or something like that, and clearly it doesn't matter where you were born or your genetics, you'll be able to speak without an accent if you have a correctly formed mouth and start at a young age.
  But if you don't use it, you'll lose it. Try to get a japanese person to say "Lie" and "rye." If they didn't speak english from a very early age, they pronounce them the same.
40. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 04:22 · Score: 0
  
  No No. Wii.i or Wiii depending on whether the marketing people decide it's a point release or not.
  If Nintendo follows IBM's marketing department, then it will jump straight to Wv or Wx
41. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 04:33 · Score: 1
  
  If you don't under stand why when romanized uii is three sylable's instead of two, the conversation ends here. You haven't studied Japanese and we are talking on two totally different levels. Learn about syllables. I've been doing this stuff for 7 years.
  
  I don't even know what you mean by "DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese.". It's prounced "(de)(small i)(-)(e)(su)", which certainly doesn't match the English pronounciation perfectly by any means.
  I was sleepy and only thought up to the "D". Notice how I wrote absolutely nothing about the "S". But if that makes you feel better...
  
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42. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 04:37 · Score: 1
  
  "(wa)(small i)(-)" is not a letter combination that is ever used except by people trying to be cute when spelling "wai".
  Why does inputing (wa)(small i)(-) on a Japanese keyboard and then pressing space bring up "Wii" but (u)(i)(i) doesn't?
  
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43. Re:Let me guess... by PeanutButterBreath · 2008-10-01 04:53 · Score: 1
  
  I would hope that the japanese biochemistry would allow them to make that sound, it would be pretty weird if it didn't! Sorry, I jest, and that's probably not even an incorrect use of "physiological."
  
  Well I'll have to defer to you, as I am no physycist. . .
  I am a native born English speaker, but I can roll my R's and correctly pronounce "karaoke". I have studied both languages for several years, which helps. Like many skills, certain people take to them better than others. Tonal languages, for example, completely confound me.
44. Re:Let me guess... by Joe+Snipe · 2008-10-01 04:55 · Score: 1
  
  I don't even know what you mean by "DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese.". It's prounced "(de)(small i)(-)(e)(su)", which certainly doesn't match the English pronounciation perfectly by any means.
  Actually if you pay close attention to english pronunciation you will hear the slightest "uh" sound at the end of most words that end in a consonant (although it will often be dropped if it isn't the last word in the statement). I always assumed it was more pronounced in the japanese tongue first because of inexperience with the language, and then oral tradition. IanaLinguist by any means, but that sort of thing has always fascinated me.
  As for the (de)(small i) portion, this character was created because of a lack of a (di) character, (the ji character is in it's place) and is a relatively modern addition. This is a wideley known issue and is pronounced by the japanese as "di" and "de-i" as the text you have provided (and in fact the katakana) suggest.
  
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45. Re:Let me guess... by residieu · 2008-10-01 05:13 · Score: 1
  
  So what did you play all those years before HD came around? Everything must have been far too ugly for you to even look at.
46. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 05:28 · Score: 0
  
  Personally, I find 480p quite sufficient, and I have a screen almost as big diagonally as I am tall.
  Then again, I play Unreal at 320x240 on a system with a Radeon 9800, on purpose. So, maybe I'm just insane.
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47. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 05:30 · Score: 1
  
  Last I heard Japan had an ageing population. Does that mean that most Japanese find it hard to pronounce?
  It's a mess of factors. Depending on the word it's different. For example a lot of Japanese-ified English words use an incorrect pronunciation which leaches into everything else.
  howaito = white
  Specifically the "ho" part lingers as Japanese people never learn it's wrong
  wa-ku = work ...it sounds more like walk than work. it would be better if they wrote it waruku or wa-ruku.
  Wii should actually be pretty easy for the Japanese to pronounce. The D in DS is a bit more difficult. The S would take their learned pronunciation of "esu" which isn't that far off from the English version. I really can't say how many people would pronounce DS wrong or how many of them think of themselves as pronouncing it wrong because I have never really gone around surveying it before.
  
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48. Re:Let me guess... by Khyber · 2008-10-01 06:04 · Score: 1
  
  Uhm. I hate to tell you this, but pretty much everything you just said is just plain wrong.
  http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii lists the pronounciation as "(u)(small i)(-)", which would be romanized as "uii" in the informal waapuro romanization popular on the net (nobody uses Hepburn, because nobody knows how to type macrons).
  "(wa)(small i)(-)" is not a letter combination that is ever used except by people trying to be cute when spelling "wai".
  I don't even know what you mean by "DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese.". It's prounced "(de)(small i)(-)(e)(su)", which certainly doesn't match the English pronounciation perfectly by any means.
  It's wrong?
  You're going to fail your JPT2 if that's all you know about Japanese.
  Off to go take my JPT3 (The worst part, actual written Japanese, which I will most likely fail)
  
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49. Re:Let me guess... by archkittens · 2008-10-01 06:58 · Score: 1
  
  you need to play "no more heroes". it's single player, and the gameplay is compelling enough to forgive the cell shading, although i have found some people actually enjoy looking at cell shaded graphics. i bought a wii to play that game on the recommendation of a friend, it was very much worth it.
50. Re:Let me guess... by master5o1 · 2008-10-01 07:31 · Score: 1
  
  DS => desu?
  
  (what is desu? i have seen it on 4chan...etc)
  
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51. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 07:38 · Score: 1
  
  If you don't under stand why when romanized uii is three sylable's instead of two, the conversation ends here.
  Do you even know what waapuro romanization is? Yes, I know it's three syllables in Hepburn, but once again, nobody uses Hepburn on the internet.
  
  You haven't studied Japanese and we are talking on two totally different levels. Learn about syllables. I've been doing this stuff for 7 years.
  That's nice, but you were still completely wrong about the romanization. Quibbling about the number of syllables is pretty silly when you mixed up "wa" and "u".
  
  Notice how I wrote absolutely nothing about the "S"
  You wrote about "DS". Stop trying to backpedal and just admit you messed up.
52. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 07:40 · Score: 1
  
  I can't really answer any questions about your computer. All I is that the entire world writes "Wii" as "ui-".
  But hey, don't take my word for it, ask Google:
  http://www.google.com/search?q=%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC
  http://www.google.com/search?q=%E3%83%AF%E3%81%83%E3%83%BC
53. Re:Let me guess... by LanMan04 · 2008-10-01 07:47 · Score: 1
  
  Where's my ATI Rage Pro when I need it? 2MB VRAM! Get off my lawn!
  
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54. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 08:05 · Score: 1
  
  desu is basically equivalent to "is" in English.
  
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55. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 08:52 · Score: 1
  
  I'm going to take a guess that you were typing "Uii" on the keyboard and getting (u)([small]i)(i) to come out. The letters you type on a keyboard do not necessarily match up to romanization. You have to type special combinations to get some letters and it often differs between OSes what those letters are. You don't write "Uii" on homepages. You write (u)([small]i)(-) or Wii. "Uii" is a means to get (u)([small]i).
  Your google links lead to (u)([small]i)(-), not "ui-" which goes directly against your point. The i is small. That means Wii is two syllables in Japanese. If you change the number of syllables in a Japanese word unlike English, it changes the word. It's that important. That's why you don't write it "Uii" in English letters. You may type "Uii" to get (u)([small]i)(-) on your OS.
  If you want me to reference something, go to wikipedia's kana page. Look for "wi" on the katakana table. Notice how it matches up to (u)([small]i) on your google link.
  Seriously, the examples you have shown so far are hallow and only show that you can input some Japanese text. It's not the same.
  
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56. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 09:31 · Score: 1
  
  That's nice, but you were still completely wrong about the romanization. Quibbling about the number of syllables is pretty silly when you mixed up "wa" and "u".
  I see that you still can't see the between connection (wa)(i[small]) and syllables. Syllables are paramount to Japanese and understanding. Go to wikipedia's katakana page and notice wi is spelt exactly like I wrote it.
  
  Do you even know what waapuro romanization is? Yes, I know it's three syllables in Hepburn, but once again, nobody uses Hepburn on the internet.
  Are you talking about romanization or typing? Don't confuse the two as they are not the same thing. To get the special characters when typing, you don't even use the same keys on different OSes. There is nothing universal about it. There is no way to tell if "Ui" is (u)(i[small]) or (u)(i) without your OS context.
  When you start playing with syllables like that, what is already a chaotic language that has many words with the same pronunciation just gets worse. Lets take komon and koumon for instance. They sound the same to most English speakers.
  koumon:
  
  back gate, school gate, Confucian school, anus, lock gate
  komon:
  
  ancient writing, adviser, fine pattern, common
  Now we have komon:
  
  back gate, school gate, Confucian school, anus, lock gate, ancient writing, adviser, fine pattern, common
  Just because people write 1337 on the internet doesn't mean that is how it's spelled. But at least with 1337 you have a fighting chance to figure out what the original word was.
  
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57. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 09:38 · Score: 1
  
  Look, to start off, how about you drop the "I'm smarter than everyone else and can dismiss everything they say without considering it" attitude? It's really not doing you any favours. Other people than you know stuff too, you know.
  Are you talking about romanization or typing?
  I am talking about romanization, which is why I said "romanization". Specifically, waapuro romanization. You can find an article about that on Wikipedia, too. Go read it.
  
  Just because people write 1337 on the internet doesn't mean that is how it's spelled.
  You know, there are many romanization systems for Japanese. None of them are the "right" one. Just because someone is using a different system does not mean they are wrong, either. You'd do well to actually learn more about how people really write japanese in real life, as it'd prevent you from getting into stupid arguments like this one.
58. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 09:39 · Score: 1
  
  Do you even know what waapuro romanization is?
  I double checked waapuro romanization. It's claim to fame is its supposed to be closer to spoken Japanese. But "Uii" is actually farther. So why did you bring up waapuro?
  
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59. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 09:42 · Score: 1
  
  I'm going to take a guess that you were typing "Uii" on the keyboard and getting (u)([small]i)(i) to come out.
  I did not, and I have no idea why you would assume that, other than perhaps that you are trying to think up ways that I am stupid. I'd appreciate it if you would stop that, and actually make the effort to consider that I know what I am talking about.
  
  Your google links lead to (u)([small]i)(-), not "ui-" which goes directly against your point. The i is small.
  If you would scroll up and read my original post, you would see that I specifically said "(u)(small i)(-)". Once again, please make the effort to actually listen to what I am saying. Go back and re-read what I said, and try replying to that, instead.
  Also, it'd be polite of you if you were to admit that "Wii" is not written "(wa)(i[small])(-)", as you claimed in this post.
60. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 09:49 · Score: 1
  
  Because the original poster, who you were trying to "correct", was using waapuro, in which the Japanese spelling of "Wii" is correctly romanized "uii"!
  Do you even have any idea what we are talking about any longer?
61. Re:Let me guess... by ShakaUVM · 2008-10-01 09:59 · Score: 1
  
  >>So what did you play all those years before HD came around? Everything must have been far too ugly for you to even look at.
  When Force Unleashed came out both for the Wii and the PS3, I looked at the graphics for both, and not even the motion sensing lightsaber thing was enough to overlook the massive difference in graphics. I bought the PS3 version, which made me die a little on the inside.
62. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 10:00 · Score: 1
  
  Because the original poster, who you were trying to "correct", was using waapuro, in which the Japanese spelling of "Wii" is correctly romanized "uii"! Do you even have any idea what we are talking about any longer?
  He said Wii is uii in romanji which really isn't write on many levels. From my side, it is still "wii" in waapuro, too. You're posts weren't any real help either.
  
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63. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 10:03 · Score: 1
  
  Also, it'd be polite of you if you were to admit that "Wii" is not written "(wa)(i[small])(-)", as you claimed in this post [slashdot.org].
  What are you talking about? You have pointed out multiple times with your examples that (wa)(i[small])(-) is right.
  
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64. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 10:05 · Score: 1
  
  He said Wii is uii in romanji which really isn't write on many levels.
  He never said the word "romanji".
  
  From my side, it is still "wii" in waapuro, too.
  Sure. Unusual waapuro, but it is. What's the relevance?
  
  You're posts weren't any real help either.
  Well, they won't be much help if you don't actually read them!
65. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 10:09 · Score: 1
  
  Sure. Unusual waapuro, but it is. What's the relevance?
  Wikipedia said that waapuro is special because it is closer to spoken Japanese. Aka, ha = wa, wo = o. That means wii is waapuro and uii isn't. You're the one who said to check out wikipedia.
  I get the feeling you haven't been reading mine either.
  
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66. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 10:35 · Score: 1
  
  Please, please, please actually read my posts! I provided Google links that clearly showed that "wa" is wrong.
67. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 10:37 · Score: 1
  
  No, "uii" and "wii" are BOTH valid informal waapuro romanizations of that word.
68. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 10:41 · Score: 1
  
  Please, please, please actually read my posts! I provided Google links that clearly showed that "wa" is wrong.
  You provided Google links that clearly showed I was right. I even explained why. But you didn't read my posts...
  
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69. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 10:48 · Score: 1
  
  HOW does a Google search for "(u)(small i)(-)" that gets Nintendo's Wii site as a first hit prove that it is actually written with a "wa"?
70. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 10:49 · Score: 1
  
  No, "uii" and "wii" are BOTH valid informal waapuro romanizations of that word.
  With your definition, pretty much anything could be a correct romanization. Maybe if it was "UiI" or something it would make more sense. I just tried typing wii and uii on a Windows machine. Only the wii one came out right. That means that uii isn't waapuro on Windows either. Where are you getting your information from?
  
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71. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 10:59 · Score: 1
  
  No, you did a google search for (u)(small i)(-) in katakana. You type wi- to get the correct hiragana to come out. ui- has nothing to do with waapuro as you're suggesting typing uii will make the correct kana come out. uii in romanji doesn't even return any results that pertain to the Wii when you put it in google. http://www.google.ca/search?hl=ja&q=uii&btnG=Google+%E6%A4%9C%E7%B4%A2
  
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72. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 11:23 · Score: 1
  
  Christ, none of that has anything at all to do with the argument. The argument was that you said this:
  
  We -> (wa)(i[small])(-) -> Wii
  Now since you seem to think you were still right about that, let's see a single link to a page that contains "(wa)(i[small])(-)" in reference to the Wii.
73. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 11:26 · Score: 1
  
  Lets see a single link about uii. :-p
  
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74. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 11:32 · Score: 1
  
  Was it that hard to click the goddamn link I already gave you?
  It's becoming pretty obvious that you are not interested at all in having an honest discussion, though.
75. Re:Let me guess... by tjscott · 2008-10-01 12:17 · Score: 1
  
  Is so easy! Happy go-oh lucky!
76. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 12:49 · Score: 0
  
  I bought the PS3 version, which made me die a little on the inside.
  And you still haven't learned your lesson that a game's graphical resolution has no bearing on how good it is?
  People like you are the poison that is killing gaming. You should be locked in a room with an NES until you come out raving about how awesome the graphics in Kirby's Adventure are.
77. Re:Let me guess... by Malevolyn · 2008-10-01 13:12 · Score: 1
  
  Well, the -esu suffix is really lightly pronounced. So while it might be "dee-esu," it would still sound like "DS." This is apparent in anime when a character says "desu." It usually sounds like they say "des." The ending "u" is more of a strong exhale than an actual letter.
  
  Lots of quoted quotable quotes in there. And you can quote me on the quote-unquote.
  
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78. Re:Let me guess... by Malevolyn · 2008-10-01 13:14 · Score: 1
  
  It can also be "it's." For example, " desu" means "it's " when identifying yourself to someone else. It can also be used when identifying someone else, like, say, if they're approaching you and you want to point them out. "Hey, it's !"
  
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79. Re:Let me guess... by Malevolyn · 2008-10-01 13:17 · Score: 1
  
  If you don't under stand why when romanized uii is three sylable's instead of two, the conversation ends here. You haven't studied Japanese and we are talking on two totally different levels. Learn about syllables.
  It's worth noting that in this particular instance it's the grammar surrounding vowels specifically, not just syllables. "Iie" is three syllables (unless I'm mistaken) for the same reason. Not doubting your knowledge, just adding to the conversation. Promise. Obligatory: ^_^
  
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80. Re:Let me guess... by Malevolyn · 2008-10-01 13:20 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  This argument is kawaii desuuuuu~~! ^_^
  
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81. Re:Let me guess... by pizzach · 2008-10-01 13:56 · Score: 1
  
  You did not type UII to get those letters. Fess up. It's becoming pretty obvious that you are not interested at all in having an honest discussion, though.
  
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82. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 15:30 · Score: 0
  
  If the graphics are so bad you shouldn't have told your mom you wanted a Wii for Christmas.
  I remember when graphics were 8-bit and we had fun each each bit and considered ourselves lucky.
83. Re:Let me guess... by Goaway · 2008-10-01 21:27 · Score: 1
  
  This has nothing to do with what I typed. That is simply not what this discussion is about!
  The point was that you claimed it's spelled with a "wa", and for some reason you refuse to back off this claim.
  Let's see that link that supports what you said, then.
  (PS: "I know you are but what am I" is a debate tactic kids use in kindergarten, not one for adults.)
84. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-02 00:54 · Score: 0
  
  The next revolution? Nintendo super revolution? Second generation revolution?
  Nintendo 360?
85. Re:Let me guess... by ShakaUVM · 2008-10-02 02:32 · Score: 1
  
  Heh, I've been having fun playing through Zelda 2 (which got stolen by a neighborhood kid while I was on the last level) on the Wii.
  But when you put the same game side by side on two systems... well, it was impossible to buy the Wii version. Part of the enjoyment of the game is indeed in the graphics.
86. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-02 11:20 · Score: 0
  
  So soon? I had the impression JLPTs were held in December... Anyway, isn't the JLPT2 harder than JLPT3? JLPT2 is like... advanced middle level Japanese proficiency. JLPT3 is lower middle level Japanese proficiency. (and the worst part is the kanji by far. I refuse to admit anything else)
  OP is right in saying that the kana-rization of Wii is not katakana (wa)(small i)(dash/whatever). It's (u)(small i)(dash/big i). Romanji is definitely 'wii' though. (The pronunciation is ... not even gonna go there)
  DS is technically able to be said, but it'll sound like any other 'borrow word'; that is, with a massive accent. I don't see that that should surprise anyone, seeing as massive accents are the norm, and while there is a way of writing it in katakana, it's more like to be written 'DS'. Moot point.
87. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-02 11:28 · Score: 0
  
  'desu' is 'de arimasu' which like... (this is why I hate translating, it's hard to find the right word) saying something is in the state of being (lit. in the state of having/being). Sort of like 'it is', when you mean 'it is so'. Basically, that's the function, but desu doesn't make sense by itself, like even less so than saying 'it is' in English.(which is also why when people say 'desu desu desu' to me I get confused)
88. Re:Let me guess... by Khyber · 2008-10-02 14:56 · Score: 1
  
  And like most any borrowed word, they'll add -su or -un to it., and while the JLPTs are usually held in Dec. you can take the pre-test classes. JLPT3 when dealing with Kanji is way horrible (I failed my first time and this second time) and in reality JLPT3 is higher level, it's just using simpler words in a more complex social situation in a more complex way. Think like Latin's declensions and genitives.
  
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Dear Nintendo by Yvan256 · 2008-09-30 17:16 · Score: 4, Insightful

As long as you have good Zelda and Metroid games (even though the last ones have been made by Retro Studios) to go with your new console, I'll buy it.
1. Re:Dear Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 19:46 · Score: 0
  
  As long as Nintendo continues to rehash the same Mario, Zelda and Metroid crap, I'll stay far away. They need to create something new, but I suppose that it's beyond their limited imaginations.
2. Re:Dear Nintendo by skam240 · 2008-09-30 19:50 · Score: 1
  
  Final Fantasy? Blech. Definitely not anything I'm interested in. Give me a good Bungie RPG over overly linear, menu driven nonsense anyday. Of course that still means I need to be playing non-Nintendo systems. Especially when one considers that the latest Paper Mario was bullshit in regards to satisfying fans of the series. Maybe I've missed something but Nintendo doesn't seem to be a very good place for RPG players right now.
  
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3. Re:Dear Nintendo by aliquis · 2008-09-30 23:12 · Score: 1
  
  Retro studios is 100% owned by Nintendo.
4. Re:Dear Nintendo by Chaos+Incarnate · 2008-10-01 00:32 · Score: 1
  
  The Wii is pretty poor in the good RPG area (though it does have Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn). The DS has quite the selection, though.
  
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5. Re:Dear Nintendo by ThePhilips · 2008-10-01 00:50 · Score: 1
  
  /me want Fire Emblem and Luminous Arc.
  FF franchise games are too boring. Story is good, visuals are excellent, sound is good - but the game core ... suck. Not terribly - but enough to bore me to not to play them.
  
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6. Re:Dear Nintendo by Yvan256 · 2008-10-01 01:33 · Score: 1
  
  I was just mentioning that fact to prevent "Retro Studios coded the Metroid Prime games, not Nintendo" replies.
7. Re:Dear Nintendo by Yvan256 · 2008-10-01 01:35 · Score: 1
  
  Either you are joking or you haven't played all Zelda and Metroid games. Apart from the general theme/characters/story style, most of those games are a lot different than each other.
  Even if you don't like the fact that Nintendo keeps going with their own franchises, it's still a lot better than most games made by other companies since the last two decades, anyway.
8. Re:Dear Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 01:39 · Score: 0
  
  Bungie made an RPG?
9. Re:Dear Nintendo by Tadrith · 2008-10-01 07:39 · Score: 1
  
  That's basically what it boils down to for me.
  I've noticed I never really buy THAT many games for my Nintendo systems, but the ones I do buy are always top notch and give me far more enjoyment than most of the other games I own.
  Are they rehashes of the same old series? Sure. But I LIKE them that way. Metroid and Zelda have evolved throughout the years, the premise is the same, but it's always something new and interesting and fun on a level that no other game can seem to come close to.
10. Re:Dear Nintendo by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 10:02 · Score: 0
  
  For Zelda, no. It's the same exact game as it was in 1987, only in 3D. It's tired and they should have stopped making them at A Link to the Past. Everything past that was an embarrassment.
  For Metroid, they made some mediocre FPS games and slapped the Metroid name on them. Very lame.
  Time to create something new, that horse has been dead for years.
Storage? by TubeSteak · 2008-09-30 17:22 · Score: 3, Insightful

Is this version going to come with a hard drive standard?
I can't imagine their 'next' generation console will get left behind in the console download race.

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1. Re:Storage? by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 17:42 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  From TFA:
  High definition visuals are assured, as is a greater emphasis on digitally distributed and backwardly compatible content, indicating that the new system will feature some form of local storage medium such as a hard drive or large flash memory solution.
2. Re:Storage? by _xeno_ · 2008-09-30 18:18 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  On that note, it'd be great if Nintendo would fix up their save-game system.
  I mean, seriously, save slots? Still? Sure, it made sense when using carts where there was a limited space tied to the cart. It kinda stopped making sense when you had memory cards and most certainly stopped making sense when the console has built-in storage.
  I'm assuming it's some Nintendo requirement because even third-party games will have a limited number of save slots stored on the Wii. Based on the memory browser, it looks like Wii games are allowed to say "I need this much space for saving" and then get a single chunk of space, which then gets divided into save slots. Which is ridiculous.
  While they're at it, poach the whole user profile thing that Sony has on the PS3. You can create multiple "users" on the console, and each "user" gets their own collection of save games. It's very nice to be able to share a console without worrying about accidentally overwriting someone else's save. I'd imagine the Xbox 360 has something similar (although I don't know).
  'Course, presumably this is possible to do on the Wii, although it might require a firmware update or something...
  
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3. Re:Storage? by AKAImBatman · 2008-09-30 18:36 · Score: 1
  
  I mean, seriously, save slots? Still? Sure, it made sense when using carts where there was a limited space tied to the cart. It kinda stopped making sense when you had memory cards and most certainly stopped making sense when the console has built-in storage.
  You do realize that Wii games use the built-in storage? The save-slots are for backward compatibility with the GameCube. Nintendo isn't emulating anything there, so it was easier to add a couple slots rather than work out how to intercept GameCube MemCard I/O.
  
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4. Re:Storage? by KDR_11k · 2008-09-30 18:41 · Score: 1
  
  He's talking about the abstract concept where you have savegames numbered e.g. 1-3 and while you can save in any of them you cannot save any additional games once these slots are filled, no matter how much remaining space you have.
  
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5. Re:Storage? by AKAImBatman · 2008-09-30 18:47 · Score: 2, Informative
  
  Ah, I see. See what I get for posting at 1:30 at night? :-P
  Honestly, that scheme is a usability feature, not a hardware limitation. Nintendo came up with unlimited saves scheme in the form of Miis, but games that don't bother to use Miis (even just for savegames!) obviously fall back on the classic system. Of course, my brain is a smidge fried here, but I believe some games do limit the number of Mii-saves as well. I think this is still a usability issue as Nintendo didn't want multiple save files hanging around for a single game.
  
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6. Re:Storage? by KDR_11k · 2008-09-30 19:59 · Score: 1
  
  I do remember several Gamecube games using one file per savegame, no idea if that changed or if devs are just lazy.
  Yeah, I hate it when games don't support Miis even if it's just for tagging a savegame with a user, inputting your name is silly when it's already in the system. Even worse are games that ask for the language every time they are started, apparently they don't save that. While it got reduced on the Wii and DS since they have a language setting in the system for some unfathomable reason some games like de Blob still ask every single time they're started. At least the stupid 50/60Hz question got abolished with the Wii's system settings, let's hope no third party is stupid enough to resurrect that...
  
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7. Re:Storage? by Yer+Mum · 2008-09-30 21:20 · Score: 1
  
  Each game can save a block of data of whatever size it wants in internal flash memory (if you look in the memory management screen you can see some use 1 block, some use 4-5-6), but it's up to the game how that is presented to the user.
  E.g. Zelda has 3 slots, Mario Kart has 4 driving licenses, Pop can store about 10 players.
  I suppose it's convention more than a Nintendo requirement.
8. Re:Storage? by beef3k · 2008-09-30 21:21 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  and in 2011 chances are that it'll be a dirt cheap 64 or 128 gig Flash SSD
9. Re:Storage? by aliquis · 2008-09-30 23:17 · Score: 1
  
  "made sense then using carts where there was a limited space tied to the cart"
  "stopped making sense when you had memory cards"
  "stopped making sense when the console has built-in storage"
  Uhm, no?
  Space is still limited. There is a difference in a save which takes a lot of storage vs one which only takes a little. So how is this irrelevant?
  But yeah, I guess they could mention kB, or not mention it at all but then how would you know which kinds of saves takes up all your space? So I'd prefer some size reportation.
  
  I'm assuming it's some Nintendo requirement because even third-party games will have a limited number of save slots stored on the Wii. Based on the memory browser, it looks like Wii games are allowed to say "I need this much space for saving" and then get a single chunk of space, which then gets divided into save slots. Which is ridiculous.
  Ah, reserved space for the whole title and not for each save does indeed seem retarded.
10. Re:Storage? by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 00:17 · Score: 0
  
  Mario Galaxy still asks me about changing to 60Hz every time I start it. 60Hz looks crap on my tv (has really noticable scanlines), so I keep the wii set to 50. Without fail, Mario Galaxy will always remind me how 60Hz looks prettier and how I should change my settings.
  It's getting a tad annoying, but still a great game.
11. Re:Storage? by gad_zuki! · 2008-10-01 02:38 · Score: 1
  
  Save slots? What is this 1989? Why is stuff still measured in 'blocks?' Whats a block anyway?
  Seriously, flash memory is dirt cheap. Nintendo just needs to drop 2 or 3 gigs worth and you'll be able to save everything for the life of the console. Let us save these files to a backup SD card and we're golden.
12. Re:Storage? by ProfessionalCookie · 2008-10-01 08:44 · Score: 1
  
  hard drives are on their way out- SDHC+ some internal flash.
13. Re:Storage? by Jorophose · 2008-10-01 11:36 · Score: 1
  
  Yuck, hard drives? What happens when it fails?
  My first consoles and computer were without moving parts and still work to this day; on the other hand can't say the same about the old Pentium 4 machine a friend of mine had, whose disk now doesn't work and whose fans died...
See what I did there by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 17:31 · Score: 0

WiiD! Ha! Psychonauts would look awesome.
"These hands are HUGE...they can touch anything but themselves... oh wait.."
Digg by tsa · 2008-09-30 17:32 · Score: 5, Insightful

Please, this isn't news, speculation can hardly ever be taken serious, and this belongs on Digg, not Slashdot.

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1. Re:Digg by Aranykai · 2008-09-30 17:38 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  Didn't you hear? Slashdot is the new Digg, and Digg is the new myspace.
  
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2. Re:Digg by philspear · 2008-09-30 17:39 · Score: 1
  
  Slashdot: news for elitist nerds.
3. Re:Digg by philspear · 2008-09-30 17:42 · Score: 1
  
  And myspace is the new comments section of youtube.
4. Re:Digg by maglor_83 · 2008-09-30 17:43 · Score: 1
  
  So what's MySpace?
5. Re:Digg by GaryPatterson · 2008-09-30 17:47 · Score: 1
  
  So what's MySpace?
  It's one of those cloudy thingies that RMS was banging on about the other day.
6. Re:Digg by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 17:56 · Score: 0
  
  And proud of it.
7. Re:Digg by jaxtherat · 2008-09-30 18:04 · Score: 1
  
  Geocities
  
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8. Re:Digg by AbRASiON · 2008-09-30 23:28 · Score: 1
  
  Does that make myspace the new Geocities?
9. Re:Digg by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 01:36 · Score: 0
  
  MySpace is the new AOL - the walled garden where we put all the idiots so they don't bother us on the real Internet. :P
nintendo was always done this by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 17:41 · Score: 0

with their successful systems: The NES, the Super NES, the game boy color, advanced, pocket, etc.
I want my Super Ultra 64, my Super Cube, and my Super Virtual Boy... that last one would be awesome.
1. Re:nintendo was always done this by elrous0 · 2008-10-01 01:33 · Score: 1
  
  Super Virtual Boy! Now, instead of just headaches, your head will literally EXPLODE!
  
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2. Re:nintendo was always done this by Skrapion · 2008-10-01 03:01 · Score: 1
  
  I liked my Virtual Boy, you insensitive clod.
  
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Wii Too by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 17:49 · Score: 4, Funny

Wii Too
Wii Two
Wii Wii
But, Given Nintendo's history, it is likely to be called the Super Wii, Ultra Wii, or Wii Advance.
If Sega were involved, it would be the Mega Wii. :)
1. Re:Wii Too by deniable · 2008-09-30 18:10 · Score: 1
  
  Roman numerals:
  Wii II, Wii III...
2. Re:Wii Too by neokushan · 2008-09-30 18:11 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Nintendo loves their postfixes, that's for sure, so why isn't it feasible that they wouldn't just call it exactly what it is - the "Wii HD"?
  Anyone who looks at it, even "Casual" gamers, will know exactly what it is thanks to all the marketing both Sony and Microsoft (and to a lesser extent, Toshiba) put into the whole "HD" thing.
  
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3. Re:Wii Too by Ambiguous+Puzuma · 2008-09-30 18:34 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  It could have a name that functions as its own UPC bar code!
4. Re:Wii Too by KDR_11k · 2008-09-30 18:55 · Score: 1
  
  I think they'll use a new word entirely, the point of Wii was that it did not need any abbreviation.
  
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5. Re:Wii Too by uvajed_ekil · 2008-09-30 20:49 · Score: 1
  
  If Nintendo gets some help from 3d realms: Wii Might As Well Forget It.
  
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6. Re:Wii Too by JazzyJ · 2008-10-01 03:57 · Score: 1
  
  How about Wii++ ?
7. Re:Wii Too by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 08:10 · Score: 0
  
  Ah yes ... wouldn't that make for great marketing: "Why don't you come over and check out my Wii Wii."
Surely We'll See All New Consoles by 2011? by GaryPatterson · 2008-09-30 17:50 · Score: 1

I'd be amazed if in 2011 we didn't see something new from Microsoft and Sony as well. Console lifecycles aren't measured in decades, after all.
1. Re:Surely We'll See All New Consoles by 2011? by aussie_a · 2008-09-30 19:25 · Score: 1
  
  I'd expect it from Microsoft but not Sony.
  PSX - Debuts in 1994 (6 years)
  PS2 - Debuts in 2000 (6 years)
  PS3 - Debuts in 2006 (5 years if the PS4 is released in 2011)
  Xbox - Debuts in 2001 (4 years)
  Xbox 360 - Debuts in 2005 (6 years if the next Xbox is released in 2011).
  I'd say we could expect one from Microsoft. But the only way I see Sony putting out one early is if the PS3 flops. It certainly hasn't yet.
Faster, hotter, more expensive, of course by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 17:50 · Score: 0

Like the 360, but better: WiiHD smoke
1. Re:Faster, hotter, more expensive, of course by philspear · 2008-09-30 18:13 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  Nintendo threw everyone for a loop this time. No high def? No hard drive? A strange controller? No way will that thing sell!
  I think there's one way to top that. The next wii is $100 and you control it with your butt.
2. Re:Faster, hotter, more expensive, of course by game+kid · 2008-09-30 19:26 · Score: 1
  
  The next wii is $100 and you control it with your butt.
  I think they've got at least half of that covered (or uncovered, from some perspectives).
  
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3. Re:Faster, hotter, more expensive, of course by aliquis · 2008-09-30 23:22 · Score: 1
  
  Wii 720 would just sound weird.
  Wii 720 - Duck hunt?
4. Re:Faster, hotter, more expensive, of course by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 00:09 · Score: 0
  
  Nintendo threw everyone for a loop this time. No high def? No hard drive? A strange controller? No way will that thing sell!
  I think there's one way to top that. The next wii is $100 and you control it with your butt.
  What what in the butt???
The "Wii Wii" by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 17:51 · Score: 1, Funny

I vote for the "Wii Squared", which will be better known as the "Wii Wii".
Tell that to Sony by WiiVault · 2008-09-30 17:58 · Score: 1

Tell that to Sony and their self-professed 10 year life cycle for the PS3. I jest but admittedly the PS2 is nearing that age, at least in Japan.
1. Re:Tell that to Sony by philspear · 2008-09-30 18:10 · Score: 1
  
  I can believe that PS3s will function for 10 years. I have a PSone that still works!
2. Re:Tell that to Sony by pizzach · 2008-09-30 18:21 · Score: 1
  
  I think the PS3 will become the N64 of this generation. It will sell, but it will get no where near the penetration that the PS2 had. The PS2 basically had the weakest hardware of the last generation and yet has had incredible longevity. Ironically, Sony is saying that because the PS3 has the most powerful hardware it will last for 10 years...even though past experience shows the opposite may be true.
  
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3. Re:Tell that to Sony by rm999 · 2008-09-30 18:50 · Score: 1
  
  Up to now, Sony has lost a lot of money on the PS3. If this trend continues, I think there is a chance that the PS3 will be remembered very differently than the N64. Nintendo started making money on the first N64s they sold.
  Also, PS3 needs to find its Goldeneye or Zelda Ocarina - without the games, the console means nothing. While N64 was not the leader of its generation, it was still a success. That is still yet to be true for the PS3.
4. Re:Tell that to Sony by KDR_11k · 2008-09-30 19:02 · Score: 1
  
  I think that was just the usual false promise, they said that mostly to make people repeat it on the internet as some reason why other consoles are inferior. While the PS1 and PS2 did live quite long after they were outdated I attribute that more to their success than an intentional plan, if the PS3 fails to take as much of the market I expect Sony (and especially third party developers) to drop it much faster.
  Also didn't the NES and SNES live quite long after being outdated? Seems to me like it's only the "losers" that drop quickly, the N64, GameCube and Xbox were dead the moment the next system came out (or even earlier). I think it's mostly because third party developers are quicker to abandon a weaker (in the market) console than a really big one where there's still plenty of money to be made.
  
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5. Re:Tell that to Sony by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 20:21 · Score: 0
  
  Yeah but i'll bet it isn't a first generation Playstation....unless you have to turn it upside down in order to read a disc!
6. Re:Tell that to Sony by aussie_a · 2008-09-30 21:12 · Score: 1
  
  This sort of problem (mine just finally died) is why I now use an emulator. By no means perfect, its certainly cheap.
7. Re:Tell that to Sony by bestinshow · 2008-09-30 22:37 · Score: 1
  
  That doesn't mean that the PS4 is coming out in 2016 however. Sony are quite happy to overlap their console releases and have a low-end console that's cheap and cheerful with loads of cheap games, and a high end console with the premium content. PS4 will probably come out in 2011 or 2012.
8. Re:Tell that to Sony by aliquis · 2008-09-30 23:20 · Score: 1
  
  I have a NES which still works (I belive), that don't mean the NES era is now :D
9. Re:Tell that to Sony by Walpurgiss · 2008-10-01 01:23 · Score: 1
  
  My first gen PSX reads discs fine. The disc hub is missing one of the steel balls that hold discs onto it though, if it loses another one I'll have to replace it.
10. Re:Tell that to Sony by WiiVault · 2008-10-05 19:08 · Score: 1
  
  You are correct. The SNES in particular was selling top 20 games well into the mid-late 90's in the US and even later in Japan. Well into the 32/64 bit "era".
Sounds disappointing so far by pembo13 · 2008-09-30 18:06 · Score: 1

While this story seems to be purely speculation, if it is true, that's kinda disappointing. I would home Nintendo at least tries to be innovative, even if it means failing.

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1. Re:Sounds disappointing so far by neokushan · 2008-09-30 18:17 · Score: 1
  
  When you think about it, Nintendo was never really "innovative" in the home-console field before. The SNES was just a more powerful NES by most counts (Hence the name) and the N64 was, yet again, another Cartridge system when everyone else was using optical media, it was just a bit more powerful. Then you have the Gamecube, the only real innovations they made there were the odd pad (That many people loved, but personally I couldn't stand it), the "box" shape with the handle so you could carry the console around and the Miniature-sized disks that also didn't really affect the games on the system.
  The Wii was the first time they'd actually went out and did something truly different from the competition. Considering Sony and Microsoft haven't jumped on the same bandwagon just yet (The SIXAXIS? Don't make me laugh! I've yet to play a single game where it actually has a useful/good purpose), they don't really need to do much other than up the visuals a fair bit, which is exactly what it seems they are doing.
  
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2. Re:Sounds disappointing so far by KDR_11k · 2008-09-30 19:52 · Score: 1
  
  I don't think it's true anyway. While more hardware power is likely in the next system it's more of a secondary concern for Nintendo (they'll slap some in but not throw much money at it). If you read these there's pretty convincing arguments (though sometimes brought in a pretty annoying style) about what path Nintendo is following, what that involves and what that doesn't involve. To Nintendo more raw power is not a step ahead, they're developing into a completely different direction. Going for a pure power improvement would kill them, it would negate all the things they did right with the Wii (identifying that more hardware power is not needed much by the consumer and identifying underdeveloped aspects of consoles that consumers DO need).
  In short, Wii HD would spell doom for Nintendo and you can be sure they won't do that.
  
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3. Re:Sounds disappointing so far by poot_rootbeer · 2008-10-01 02:04 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  The SNES was just a more powerful NES by most counts
  By most counts, yes, but not by some of the counts that matter the most. The SNES was the first console to have shoulder buttons on the controllers, the first to have the diamond-shaped 4-face-button configuration still found on PlayStations and Xboxen today, the first major home console to use wavetable synthesis for audio and bitmap scaling/rotation for graphics.
  the N64 was, yet again, another Cartridge system when everyone else was using optical media, it was just a bit more powerful
  It also introduced analog controls back to the home console for the first time since the Atari 2600's paddles. (Yes, Atari 5200 and Vectrex had analog joysticks standard issue, but you can count the number of titles that used the analog capabilities on one hand.)
  I'm actually kind of surprised at how little credit for innovation you're willing to give Nintendo. I don't think most gamers see it the same way you do.
Can we get HD early? by CoolGuySteve · 2008-09-30 18:10 · Score: 1

I don't mind the Wii, but one thing that really bugs me is that it looks like shit on my 46" LCD. I would gladly pay extra to get a Wii that renders the same 3D scenes at 720p.
It's not totally far out, people upgraded their GameBoy Advance to the SP and their Nintendo DS to the redesign, but I doubt enough people have large HDTVs to make it a viable market before 2011.
1. Re:Can we get HD early? by marcansoft · 2008-09-30 18:35 · Score: 1
  
  FWIW, you aren't going to be getting HD on existing Wii games any time soon. The software isn't designed with that kind of forwards compatibility in mind. HD will require HD specific games.
2. Re:Can we get HD early? by StarWreck · 2008-09-30 18:54 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Have you tried buying the upgrade Component cable to get the full 480p out of the Wii? Or are you using the composite cable that came with the Wii? That only lets you get 480i.
  
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3. Re:Can we get HD early? by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 02:17 · Score: 0
  
  +1
  The vast majority of games look fine to me on my 42" plasma and 47" LCD. I've been using the upgrade component cable though, with the Wii set to 480p. I like HD as much as the next guy (heck, I won't even watch non-HD tv anymore if I can help it), and I certainly want/expect HD with the next Wii since every tv will be HD by then (or should be). But it's probably the least important new feature. I'm hoping for better controllers, etc.
4. Re:Can we get HD early? by CoolGuySteve · 2008-10-01 04:32 · Score: 2, Interesting
  
  I did indeed buy one. The biggest problem I have with the image is the crazy amount of staircasing all over the place. I actually turned it back to 480i because the deinterlacer on my Bravia produces a smoother image overall even if there's less detail (my guess is that it averages the scan fields at a higher resolution). It also eliminates the lame 16bit alpha dithering that some games have.
How about... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 18:14 · Score: 0

HDii?
HighWii?
HWii?
C'mon, these are so obvious.
This is news? How? by HomerJ · 2008-09-30 18:43 · Score: 1

Nintendo has already said they want to go to shorter release cycles. This would put the Wii at four years. I actually expect a new Wii a lot shorter than that.
Although I do expect a WiiHD is going to be a lot harder sell. They had a lot of hype with the Wii and sold--and still selling--based off of it. But a lot of these Wiis are now sitting around collecting dust waiting for decent games. A couple cult following titles and a few lackluster first part titles. They have been been greeted with a lot of hope, and some good reviews from some Nintendo friendly reviewers. But I don't know a lot of people still playing their copies of SMG, MK, or even Brawl. I just think it's going to be a hard sell the next around of systems, where they are going to have to show some major titles with some real lasting appeal are going to come. Does anyone really think the "casual" gamers who got on board with Wii Play and Wii Fit are going to go buy another system for Wii Play 2 and Wii Fit 2 when they bought the first ones and it sat in the corner a couple of weeks after they had it?
1. Re:This is news? How? by vux984 · 2008-09-30 21:05 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  Nintendo has already said they want to go to shorter release cycles. This would put the Wii at four years. I actually expect a new Wii a lot shorter than that.
  Beats me.
  Although I do expect a WiiHD is going to be a lot harder sell. They had a lot of hype with the Wii and sold--and still selling--based off of it.
  Right, the Wii is just a fad. Keep telling yourself that.
  But a lot of these Wiis are now sitting around collecting dust waiting for decent games.
  An asinine observation. Its true of EVERY system, and everyone's definition of 'decent games' is different. A lot of PS3 are collecting dust too, and xbox360s too.
  That said, consider the Wii Fit is still a total sell out after moving 2 million units. To me that pretty much blows your theory that everyone is waiting around for something to buy.
  A couple cult following titles and a few lackluster first part titles. They have been been greeted with a lot of hope, and some good reviews from some Nintendo friendly reviewers. But I don't know a lot of people still playing their copies of SMG, MK, or even Brawl.
  Same could be said of any of the franchise games for any of the consoles.
  I just think it's going to be a hard sell the next around of systems, where they are going to have to show some major titles with some real lasting appeal are going to come.
  Like what? Halo 3? Call of Duty? Complete with an achievement system so they can be ranked against 15-year-olds around the world? Yeah, the casuals are going to be lining up to get on that bus. Get real.
  Does anyone really think the "casual" gamers who got on board with Wii Play and Wii Fit are going to go buy another system for Wii Play 2 and Wii Fit 2 when they bought the first ones and it sat in the corner a couple of weeks after they had it?
  If they think it will be fun and entertain them for a while? Yes.
  They don't need to play it 10 hours a week every week to feel they got good value. Even if they pull it out once a month or so for parties or when the grandkids come over, or they play the odd game of tennis, they're happy with their purchase. When the next version comes out, if it has something they want, they'll buy it.
  It really is that simple.
  Finally, if current trends are an indication: if they launched a "Wii 2" today, they'd sell a quarter million a week easily, and that's assuming the 30 million people who already have a Wii DON'T upgrade. They don't even NEED to 'convert' Wii owners, the untapped market is still large enough.
  Of course, they will market to Wii owners as well, and some significant percentage WILL upgrade. A LOT of people are more than satisfied with their purchase. Hell, if they manage to sell a Wii 2 to just half the Wii 1 owners and don't sell a single unit to anyone else, they'll still outsell the PS3.
2. Re:This is news? How? by aussie_a · 2008-09-30 21:22 · Score: 1
  
  That said, consider the Wii Fit is still a total sell out after moving 2 million units. To me that pretty much blows your theory that everyone is waiting around for something to buy.
  It isn't everyone that's waiting for something to buy. Plenty of people have bought what they want (WiiSports, WiiBowling, WiiFit). Its the gamers who want something to buy beyond Zelda or Mario.
3. Re:This is news? How? by vux984 · 2008-09-30 22:59 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Its the gamers who want something to buy beyond Zelda or Mario.
  meh, there's lots to play out there. Radiant Dawn, Mercury Meltdown, Zack&Wiki, Metroid3, Godfather, ...
  I dunno, there are easily 20+ games that are more than difficult enough to be a 'gamers' game. And there are several 'casual' titles that are worthy of play too, and then there's plenty to to be had on the Virtual Console/WiiWare. I just can't be that sympathetic; there is plenty of value there.
  And honestly, if you are consuming titles at such a high a rate that the Wii library is 'woefully inadequate', you've already got at least 1 of the other consoles in addition to the Wii, and possibly a DS or PSP to boot.
  If that is you, and you are still complaining about the lack of titles... then your expectations are out of whack, or you are skipping tons of good quality games... probably both.
4. Re:This is news? How? by Sockatume · 2008-10-01 00:32 · Score: 1
  
  Actually Nintendo have said they want longer release cycles. The Wii Remote was originally a GameCube add-on to extend that machine's lifespan to ten years or so. So while this rumour makes some sense, I strongly suspect that any new machine would be a "DS Lite" to the Wii's "DS". Adding extra horsepower to play games in HD modes, and perhaps bundling Motionplus and some non-half-assed storage system wouldn't necessarily break compatability with the old Wii.
  
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5. Re:This is news? How? by zhevek · 2008-10-01 01:39 · Score: 1
  
  Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn was the hardest game I've played in years, out of Wii, PS3, and Windows games. As a Wii owner who plays through a game once every month or two, there are still too many other good games that I can't keep up with all of them.
6. Re:This is news? How? by arb+phd+slp · 2008-10-01 02:37 · Score: 1
  
  Its the gamers who want something to buy beyond Zelda or Mario.
  meh, there's lots to play out there. Radiant Dawn, Mercury Meltdown, Zack&Wiki, Metroid3, Godfather, ...
  I dunno, there are easily 20+ games that are more than difficult enough to be a 'gamers' game. And there are several 'casual' titles that are worthy of play too, and then there's plenty to to be had on the Virtual Console/WiiWare. I just can't be that sympathetic; there is plenty of value there.
  And honestly, if you are consuming titles at such a high a rate that the Wii library is 'woefully inadequate', you've already got at least 1 of the other consoles in addition to the Wii, and possibly a DS or PSP to boot.
  If that is you, and you are still complaining about the lack of titles... then your expectations are out of whack, or you are skipping tons of good quality games... probably both.
  Yes. Between the Wii and DS, my list of games I want to play is long enough that the WiiHD will come out and I won't have gotten to them all (just as finishing Metroid 2 is still on my list of things to do). There was a 9-month backlog of games while I was struggling to get the console in the first place. I know there are gamers out there who (aren't working on their comps and dissertation) burn through new games in a couple of weeks. But I, and most of the other Wii owners, don't.
  Before I get to any of the single-player games on my list, I need to play through Guitar Hero in multiplayer since my wife just got a second GH controller.
  The gamers in the "game-a-week" market will always have to play multiple platforms no matter how good any one of them happens to be.
  
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7. Re:This is news? How? by ArbitraryConstant · 2008-10-01 03:29 · Score: 1
  
  Wiiware/virtual console adds enormously to the value of the system. Casual gamers like me can download something cheap if we're bored for an afternoon.
  None of them are the equal of full Wii game, let alone a PS3/360 game... but they're fun, they're cheap, and they're convenient. That does a lot for the value of the system, under any definition of "value" I care to use.
  
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8. Re:This is news? How? by morari · 2008-10-01 07:56 · Score: 1
  
  But a lot of these Wiis are now sitting around collecting dust waiting for decent games.
  Where at? I keep hearing this, but as far as I can see it looks to be the PS3 that's still waiting on more than a handful of decent games.
  
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9. Re:This is news? How? by socz · 2008-10-01 08:58 · Score: 1
  
  sorry, don't have time to read the entire post... playing starwars! Darth Vader kicks ass!98@!&^%#@!%! *choke*
  
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480p Wii Sucks by sleeponthemic · 2008-09-30 18:51 · Score: 1

I love the console but come on.. an xbox can put out 720p. A decent sized television makes the wii look very average.

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1. Re:480p Wii Sucks by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 19:49 · Score: 0
  
  The Wii IS very average (and I say that as a Wii owner).
2. Re:480p Wii Sucks by Secret+Rabbit · 2008-09-30 20:24 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  That resolution is really only necessary if you're going for realistic. And this is exactly where Nintendo isn't. The XBox's and PS's are, but not the Wii. High resolution just isn't necessary for cartoon-y stuff. So, don't criticise them for choosing technology that suits there needs, but doesn't live up to what /you/ *think* they should be doing.
  Btw, I have a 32" LCD HDTV and Metroid looks amazing and Zelda looks good as well (though Zelda is _not_ supposed to look as good as Metroid).
3. Re:480p Wii Sucks by Laurence0 · 2008-10-01 00:31 · Score: 1
  
  I don't know, you're right that HD isn't essential for the cartoony stuff, but it doesn't hurt. I've seen various Pixar stuff in 720p (For The Birds being the first example that comes to mind) and it does look stunning. I've been playing Wii Fit quite a lot recently, and the pixels are quite obvious. I'm running the Wii with the component cables to a 720p capable TV (so, getting 480p) and the images are certainly very sharp ... but pixelly.
  Metroid did look good, you're right, but I think even the cartoony games would benefit from more rounded edges and less pixels. It's certainly not essential - Wii Fit would be almost exactly the same game, but it would look nicer.
  A final thought is that with the simplistic cartoony graphics of games like Wii Fit, the Wii would probably be capable of doing the extra grunt necessary to show it at 720p. It's just a shame it doesn't have that option.
4. Re:480p Wii Sucks by elrous0 · 2008-10-01 01:26 · Score: 1
  
  4:3 content, high resolution or not, can be annoying as shit on an HDTV. The longer I own an HDTV, the more I find myself avoiding SD broadcasts for this reason (cartoons or not).
  
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5. Re:480p Wii Sucks by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 01:44 · Score: 0
  
  I currently have both a Wii and 360, and frequently use both consoles.
  After playing Tales of Vesperia on the 360, I disagree with the assertion that high resolution doesn't make "cartoony" games look better. Higher resolution certainly will benefit every type of game, not just those that are going for a realistic style. I still agree that graphics aren't everything, and that game play is far more important. The fact remains that while Metroid and Zelda looked good at 420p, but they would look even better at 720p or 1080p.
  As someone who enjoys Nintendo's first party titles, I would like to see more powerful hardware from their next console. An HD Zelda or Metroid would be awesome.
6. Re:480p Wii Sucks by squiggleslash · 2008-10-01 02:00 · Score: 1
  
  The Wii is switchable 16:9 and 4:3. It's just it's 480p, regardless of aspect ratio. Kind of like DVD, where you can choose anamorphic widescreen or 4:3 pan and scan. (Except, of course, it's rarely on the same disc with DVD whereas pretty much every Wii game I've tried respects the user's preference.)
  
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7. Re:480p Wii Sucks by Jeremy+Erwin · 2008-10-01 05:05 · Score: 1
  
  The Incredibles looked pretty good when NBC showed it in 1080i--though on an interlaced set, it probably would suffer. And a good, clean 35mm print of a Disney animated film really does convey a certain elegance that's utterly absent from a 480i source.
  On the other hand, I don't have a Wii-- and so my experience is filtered through salesmen who really don't know what they're doing. Ever seen a PS3 hooked up through composite?
8. Re:480p Wii Sucks by Kjella · 2008-10-01 10:35 · Score: 1
  
  That resolution is really only necessary if you're going for realistic. And this is exactly where Nintendo isn't.
  That is so bogus, particularly in the four-player games like Mario Party, Kart, Wii Tennis etc. it's annoying to look at your 240p quadrant. It's almost down to the C64 resolution I had 20 years ago, though the colors are a little better ;). Besides, it's one thing to look cartoonish and another to look pixelated, and the Wii is pixelated. Try playing something like Sam & Max (brilliant and very cartoonish) in 1920x1200 then try turning it down to 640x480 or so and realize what you're missing. Not in terms of detail or realism but it's so much clearer and less "fuzzy" you don't ever want to go back.
  
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9. Re:480p Wii Sucks by Secret+Rabbit · 2008-10-01 12:44 · Score: 1
  
  Cherry pick your data much?
10. Re:480p Wii Sucks by dank+zappingly · 2008-10-01 15:00 · Score: 1
  
  Xbox could put out 1080i(Dragon's Lair 3d/cutscenes on the Xmen game, i think), but very few games used it. It was a real pain on my tv because the dashboard was stuck at 480i, which my old television would not display through component cables. I'd have to use RCA's to switch the resolution, at which point the screen would go blank, at which point I would switch to the component cables. That's what happens when you're an early adopter.
Dear Nintendo by aussie_a · 2008-09-30 19:02 · Score: 1

As long as you fail to have turn-based RPGs (like FFVII) that are actually good, Microsoft or Sony will continue to get my money.
Wow... by skam240 · 2008-09-30 19:38 · Score: 0, Offtopic

Wow, HD support, huh? Welcome to the new millennium Nintendo.

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1. Re:Wow... by Yer+Mum · 2008-09-30 21:39 · Score: 1
  
  Nintendo have never been about letting technology driving the games, but letting games drive the technology.
  Unlike Sony and Microsoft they can't use other business lines as a crutch. They don't sell bleeding edge technology at a loss and recover costs on the games, rather they develop technology that is good enough for the games they have in development and can be sold at a profit without the need to sell a single game.
2. Re:Wow... by skam240 · 2008-10-01 07:53 · Score: 1
  
  Now, when the Wii was first proposed by Nintendo I was all about the path they were taking. When the system came out I was blown away by the new type of game play they were introducing to us and often parroted the same Nintendo line. Now I'm just tired of shitty mini games and sequels to games like Mario Kart and Smash Brothers that don't do anything of substance new (and don't get me started on the shit heap that is the new Paper Mario). At least on the other systems when somebody makes a lack luster sequel it a) looks noticeably better and b) has the extra disc capacity to generally throw something new in. The only games on the Wii that have any interest to me are light-gun shooters but this isn't enough to make me buy a system.
  I'm just glad the system was in such short supply initially that I was never able to buy one. Several of my friends weren't so lucky and have Wiis sitting around collecting dust and express envy in regards to my ownership of an XBox 360. I thank them for the time on their Wiis which allowed me to make this fine choice.
  
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You have to think in other terms. by TuringTest · 2008-09-30 19:40 · Score: 1

The name for the second Wii?
Yuu.

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Lost in translation by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 19:54 · Score: 0

An earlier name was dropped after some one explained to the Japanese makers that "Wii We" wasn't a good name for the US market.
Paradigm Shift! by Anonymous Coward · 2008-09-30 20:11 · Score: 0

the nature of the transition has been characterized as similar to 'the shift from Game Boy to Game Boy Advance,'
Finally! About time Nintendo realized their Wii games need to be played in color!
Ignore, posting to undo moderation by Knuckles · 2008-09-30 20:32 · Score: 1

n/t

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Majority of households still don't have one. by plasmacutter · 2008-09-30 20:40 · Score: 2, Insightful

Sorry to say this, but the majority of households still don't have an HDTV.
Despite the fact most electronics stores carry them exclusively, relatively few can afford to spend circa $1k on one of these things.
The overall market share is still small.
Explain to me why anyone should be paying for resolution they won't see until panels drop to the 300 dollar mark some 5+ years from now?

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1. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by tepples · 2008-09-30 22:23 · Score: 1
  Explain to me why anyone should be paying for resolution they won't see until panels drop to the 300 dollar mark some 5+ years from now?
  Unlike existing CRT SDTVs, a new TV can receive VGA and ATSC signals. If you don't buy a new TV, you'll still have to spend over $100 to keep your TV working with new sources:
  
  $80 for a VGA-to-composite scan converter, so that you can watch YouTube on a decent size monitor and play multiplayer PC games without buying three more PCs.
  $50 for an ATSC decoder so that you can get the digital subchannels (such as The CW, weather radar, three more PBS SDTV channels) that your cable TV provider chooses not to offer even on basic cable.
2. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by Eivind · 2008-09-30 22:48 · Score: 1
  
  About half of all household have atleast one HDTV here.
  About 75% of all households who own a last-generation-console have atleast one HDTV here.
  Okay, so USA is a bit behind due to the lower wages (particular for the lower classes), but I'm sure the majority of US-gamers will have a hdtv inside of a year or two.
3. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 00:59 · Score: 0
  
  news flash: 2011 is in THE FUTURE
  THE FUTURE when more people might have HDTVs
  i know you're psychic so your "5+ years" prediction is fool-proof, but maybe 3+ years will be good enough for some people
4. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by elrous0 · 2008-10-01 01:21 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  The majority don't have them NOW. But if Nintendo releases a new console without HD support in 2011 (intending it to last until 2016 at least), it will be a sad joke. It would be like someone pitching a prime time TV show in 1968 and telling the studio "Oh, and we intend to shoot it in black and white for its entire ten-year run, since most people don't have color TV's yet."
  
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5. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by MikeBabcock · 2008-10-01 01:39 · Score: 1
  
  You don't need a 40" TV to get HDTV -- and you shouldn't need to spend $1000 to get high definition.
  HDTVs here are selling from about $300.
  Of course, we have better broadband access too.
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6. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 01:48 · Score: 0
  
  But that is the way things are moving. And the more products out there that can use HD, the more incentive there is for people to get HD.
  I know I will be in line the first night to get a HD Wii, and I don't have any console now.
  But I have 3 different HDTVs. And I would guess that the people in the market for a Wii in 2010/2011 will have an HDTV by then.
7. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by Bob-taro · 2008-10-01 02:45 · Score: 1
  
  Unlike existing CRT SDTVs, a new TV can receive VGA and ATSC signals.
  I suspect many people will just buy the ATSC converter or buy a new STDV. I wonder how many people will buy an HDTV before February only because they don't understand the difference between HD and digital?
  
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8. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by residieu · 2008-10-01 05:46 · Score: 1
  
  Not many, considering all the people who use sattelite or cable for their TV will still be fine after the switch to digital broadcast.
9. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 06:42 · Score: 0
  
  Funny, it only cost me $20 for the S-Video cable that connects my computer directly to my SDTV. Tested to work at 1024x768 resolution too.
10. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by tepples · 2008-10-01 07:40 · Score: 1
  
  Funny, it only cost me $20 for the S-Video cable that connects my computer directly to my SDTV.
  Most PCs that I've worked on come with a stock video card with only a VGA output or only VGA and DVI outputs. How much did it cost for the video card that replaced the stock video card that lacked an S-video output? And how much did it cost you in time to learn how to install a video card? Are most end users willing to spend that much money and that much time on setting up an HTPC, or are they just going to play Nintendo-approved games on their Wii and skip the entire indie game market?
11. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by Jorophose · 2008-10-01 11:53 · Score: 1
  
  How much did it cost for the video card that replaced the stock video card that lacked an S-video output?
  30$ at WalMart.
  
  And how much did it cost you in time to learn how to install a video card?
  
  About a few minutes to scan the manual for the case to find out how to open it, then unscrewing the PCI plate, then putting the card in, then screwing it in. I'd say 5-10 minutes, maybe 20 minutes to carry it up on my bigger desk. Since everybody at slashdot screams time is money, that means I was so losing out on 100$.
  
  Are most end users willing to spend that much money and that much time on setting up an HTPC, or are they just going to play Nintendo-approved games on their Wii and skip the entire indie game market?
  You're confusing two markets here.
  Wii does not play DVDs, because DVD playback is overrated; I have too many DVD players, and now you want to sell me more?!? The Wii's DVD drive is also very reliable; unlike a "normal" one, it reads at a constant rate, so the parts inside don't get as worn out.
  For HTPCs, not all HTPCs play games. Games and video often contradict themselves, unless it's "party games" like N64 games being emulated. In which case, you still need a fairly good CPU/board... If it's only video (upto 720p) and maybe some Quake(3?) then you have things like the BeagleBoard, tiny computers. If you're gaming then you almost invariably end up with a fairly large and noisy computer. I mean, it's a computer, but still... But 1080p playback will require that, although I only know two people who own 1080p sets, both of whom are idiots for it IMHO. =/
  (a bit unrelated but w/e)
12. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by tepples · 2008-10-02 04:20 · Score: 1
  
  About a few minutes to scan the manual for the case to find out how to open it
  How long did it take you to learn that the video card in a PC can be swapped? And how long did it take you to find which $30 video card to buy at Walmart*? I'm trying to think in terms of the general public here, the people who would choose between gaming on a Wii and gaming on a PC.
  
  For HTPCs, not all HTPCs play games. Games and video often contradict themselves
  As far as I can tell, "home theater PC" just means a PC connected to a TV or other TV-size monitor. If you use "HTPC" only for noninteractive video applications, what's the word for a gaming PC connected to a TV?
13. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by Jorophose · 2008-10-02 10:45 · Score: 1
  
  About five minutes.
  How long would it take you to find this miraculesly easy device that takes no time to find or set up? What about the cabling?
  And we call those boxen that play games on TVs game consoles.
14. Re:Majority of households still don't have one. by tepples · 2008-10-02 15:08 · Score: 1
  
  And we call those boxen that play games on TVs game consoles.
  But is there a name for those boxen that play independent games on TVs? Or why should display on a TV require a game to have been published by a major label?
Abandoned the Fight by aussie_a · 2008-09-30 21:09 · Score: 1

While this is great news for the soccer mums and the zelda fans, I'm disappointed that there isn't any news of Nintendo seeking to compete with Sony and Microsoft in an attempt to get the majority of the gamer market back.
As a (traditional) RPG fan, the Wii is just a non-competitive console for me, with it only having 4 games I'm interested in:
* Breath of Fire 2 (port)
* Phantasy Star II (port)
* Phantasy Star III (port)
* Phantasy Star IV (port)
With all those ports, it just hasn't convinced me.
Whereas the PS3 has:
* Valkyria Chronicles
While the Xbox360 has:
* Lost Odyssey
Multiplatform (as in, everything but the Wii)
* Enchanted Arms
* Final Fantasy XIII
While the PS3 and Xbox360 only have 3 titles on them that I'm interested in, those titles are new rather then ports. Xbox360 manages to equal the Wii, although with new games rather then ports.
Which is a shame because I imagine the Wii is quite fun. They've just abandoned most of the gamer market (and I realise I'm a very small part of the market but I'm also part of what has been abandoned) to Sony and Microsoft.
1. Re:Abandoned the Fight by MagusZeal · 2008-09-30 23:09 · Score: 1
  
  You forgot Disgaea 3 for the PS3.
2. Re:Abandoned the Fight by aussie_a · 2008-09-30 23:59 · Score: 1
  
  I did miss it, but having read a review I don't expect I'll enjoy it.
  I don't plan on buying any next-gen consoles anytime soon. I'm currently still playing my PSX and PS2 games with me having yet to finish:
  * Final Fantasy I, II, IV-VI, VIII (currently playing it thanks to an emulator for the PSX) and FF XII.
  * Breath of Fire IV-V
  * Wild Arms 3
  * Kartia
  * Frontier Mission 3
  so I don't predict I'll be buying for either console anytime soon. But when/if I do (I may just wait for the PS4-era) I would like to buy the one that will give me the most bang for my buck.
3. Re:Abandoned the Fight by elrous0 · 2008-10-01 01:29 · Score: 1
  
  Yeah, but if you're looking for cutesy minigames, the Wii is THE SHIT!!!
  
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4. Re:Abandoned the Fight by Atriqus · 2008-10-01 01:57 · Score: 1
  
  I'm disappointed that there isn't any news of Nintendo seeking to compete with Sony and Microsoft in an attempt to get the majority of the gamer market back.
  They don't bother competing against Sony and Microsoft for the gamer market because they are too busy raking in the cash from creating their own non-traditional gamer market. Put this way, Nintendo had two options:
  -Take on two giants who were much better at what they did and hope to survive.
  -Create their own market in a way that repulses the other two from ever entering with a competing level of competency.
  
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5. Re:Abandoned the Fight by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 02:54 · Score: 0
  
  If you're an RPG fan, you should also take a look at Super Paper Mario (admittedly, less RPG-ish than the previous Mario RPG games) and Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World.
  I'd also recommend Tales of Vesperia for the 360, though. But Lost Odyssey? Meh, there are probably better games on the PS2 that you still haven't played yet.
6. Re:Abandoned the Fight by SethraLavode · 2008-10-01 03:22 · Score: 1
  
  Honestly, if you're a traditional RPG fan, you probably want to be looking at the DS instead. You've got a ton of well-done remakes of classics like the Dragon Quests and Final Fantasy games, plus new games like The World Ends With You, ASH, and new entries to the Namco Tales series. Bioware's got a game forthcoming, too. (Most importantly for me, though, there's a Suikoden game headed to the DS.) Plus, chances are that you missed out on a lot of the great GBA RPGs, like Golden Sun, Riviera, and Fire Emblem.
7. Re:Abandoned the Fight by kurokaze · 2008-10-01 04:50 · Score: 1
  
  As an RPG fan you can pick up Fire Emblem:Radiant Dawn on Wii. It's a fantastic RPG (with heavy strategy elements). Be warned though, this game will kick your ass. Hard.
  Once you're hooked on that you can pick up the GameCube prequel Fire Emblem:Path of Radiance.
  Also for the GameCube there is the Baten Kaitos series, another good RPG. There are lots of good RPGs out there, just gotta be open to possibilities.
Brain Age: Learn how to say "blue"! by tepples · 2008-09-30 21:11 · Score: 1

Also Aoi means blue, the japanese pronunciation of which is more like "buruu" because of a lack of an L sound.
That must explain my failure to get the color/name test to recognize my voice in the Brain Age demo for Nintendo DS.
GameCube Plus by tepples · 2008-09-30 21:16 · Score: 1

Nintendo loves their postfixes, that's for sure, so why isn't it feasible that they wouldn't just call it exactly what it is - the "Wii HD"?
Nintendo likely won't call it the Wii HD for the same reason the Wii isn't called the GameCube Plus, even though that's what it is.
1. Re:GameCube Plus by neokushan · 2008-10-01 00:10 · Score: 1
  
  What, that the brand power/name of the Wii isn't big or good enough to launch a revolutionary new system?
  Oh, wait...
  
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2D Realms by tepples · 2008-09-30 21:27 · Score: 1

If Nintendo gets some help from 3d realms: Wii Might As Well Forget It.
I thought 3D Realms had already ruled out developing for Wii.
Quality that will be driven out in 5+ years. by sethstorm · 2008-09-30 21:28 · Score: 1

Because the $300 LCD panels won't have much quality to them - you will not see S-IPS or even PVA quality, just TN. Failing that, just use it as a monitor if it's not too big, and is 1080p.

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Mode 7 by tepples · 2008-09-30 21:41 · Score: 1

Nintendo was never really "innovative" in the home-console field before. The SNES was just a more powerful NES by most counts (Hence the name)
Yes, the Super NES CPU (65C816 at 2.68 MHz) was more or less an overclocked NES CPU (6502 at 1.79 MHz) with a 16-bit ALU, roughly on par with the TurboGrafx-16 CPU (65C02 at 7.16 MHz). But unlike all other consoles of that generation, the PPU (video processor) had a display mode that allowed "2.5-D" graphics on a texture-mapped plane. Genesis didn't have mode 7, and neither did Neo Geo; racing games for those had to use either an overhead view like RC Pro-Am and Micro Machines or the same 2D image-warping technique as Pole Position and Rad Racer from the NES days. I don't know of any other popular home gaming platform before the i486 PC and the 32X that could have done justice to even the early Super NES racing games such as On the Ball or F-Zero.
1. Re:Mode 7 by neokushan · 2008-10-01 00:16 · Score: 1
  
  I think you missed my point, I wasn't saying that the SNES wasn't powerful (At the time) or anything, I was just saying it wasn't really all that innovative. Sure, Mode7 was cool and some people made great use of it, but it's hardly a system-selling advantage in the market (In the same way that a CD-Player sold the PS1, a DVD player sold the PS2 and a Blu-ray drive is currently selling the PS3, or alternatively, a Hard drive sold the original Xbox and so on).
  
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Don't forget by wernox1987 · 2008-09-30 23:34 · Score: 1

It needs in game voice chat too....Without voice chat, there is no Wii, just Mii
Wii 2... by LaurensVH · 2008-09-30 23:50 · Score: 1

Wii 2...
Wii II...
Wiiii?
1. Re:Wii 2... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 01:09 · Score: 0
  
  WiiHD
  say it real fast.
  you know you want too.
  weee-h-d
  weeh-d
  weed.
  now the mushrooms in mario make sense.
There's a rumor PS4 is coming in 2011 as well. by crow5599 · 2008-10-01 01:47 · Score: 1

I wonder if there's any relation between this and the rumor about the PlayStation 4, which says it's coming out in 2011, and it'll be only twice as powerful as the PS3.
Re:480p Wii Sucks (mod parent up!) by Yosho · 2008-10-01 03:00 · Score: 1

I don't normally make "mod parent up" posts, but seriously, Tales of Vesperia is gorgeous in 720p. (and probably 1080p, too, but my TV won't do that) The whole "HD only matters for realistic graphics" argument is BS.
Don't get me wrong, I have a Wii and love it, but the difference in graphical power between it and the other systems shows no matter what type of game you're playing.

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Re:HD Version of the repackaged Gamecube? by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 05:04 · Score: 0

Ooh, they're repackaging the NES? <3
I'll continue with the DS explanation by pizzach · 2008-10-01 05:53 · Score: 1

I'm going to go back and rewrite this part to clarify because of the below question.

I don't even know what you mean by "DS can be pronounced correctly in Japanese.". It's pronounced "(de)(small i)(-)(e)(su)", which certainly doesn't match the English pronunciation perfectly by any means.
I specifically pointed out the "D" part because there is the off chance of the Japanese pronouncing it "chi/g" because of their alphabet. The Japanese use a combination of (de)(small i) because there is no "di" letter native to the alphabet.
When you combine a Japanese letter and a small Japanese vowel letter, it combines into a single new pronunciation. (de)(small i) is equivalent to the English "di". The Japanese letter for "di" is actually pronounced "chi".
The esu, regardless of what you think is actually pretty close to the English pronunciation. The biggest problem is that they turn it into a two syllable sound. The u of (su) often becomes mostly silent in spoken Japanese which levitates the two syllable problem somewhat and makes it sound more english-like to boot.

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Good for text too by tknd · 2008-10-01 06:02 · Score: 1

Even though 480p might be good enough for single player games and the graphics detail the Wii is aiming for, I still think there are other benefits to having a higher resolution. For example the text for games and apps could be much clearer. That would make the web browser and game interfaces much easier to read and cram more information into. Also when you play split screen games like mariokart the resolution could help make each player's view much clearer. Right now it is still really crappy.
1. Re:Good for text too by Jorophose · 2008-10-01 11:47 · Score: 1
  
  720p: 1280x720...
  My PC can do that. MY PC. That old piece of shit people don't even use for compairasons anymore. Sure, it can't play everything at 720p; but "720p" is a fucking joke.
  At least on my Bravia 32" 720p TV, when I'm watching cartoons on cable it looks just fine. Problems arise when watching "real life" shows. But that might just be me...
  Considering, imho, Nintendo is known for colourful games (or even just cartoon'ed stuff, not necessarily cell shading (but that helps) but it's not like CoD4 or Crysis where you try to be "realistic"). That goes up pretty well.
  A Wii HD would be interesting. I probably wouldn't buy it. I really don't see the point, all things considered. Hard disks fail, not everybody has a "HD" TV (I only have one because my old TV went caput, dead caps), and not to mention if it's only 720p it's not really that great, by 2011 I'm sure we'll see 720p done easily by these sort of chips...
  But it would be nice, don't get me wrong. Fingers crossed.
I visited the article & all i got was this laz by Barryke · 2008-10-01 11:34 · Score: 1

"I visited the article and all i got was this lazy ad!"
(there is a limit on title length here.. no room for I and !)

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Re:480p Wii Sucks (mod parent up!) by Secret+Rabbit · 2008-10-01 12:46 · Score: 1

I never said that it /only/ matters to the point that you're taking it. Sure, things will obviously be more pretty. But, the point is that it isn't necessary for the effect that Nintendo is going for. There is a difference between what you want, what would be nice, and what is necessary you know.
The new name will be... by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-01 16:40 · Score: 0

Squii!
I can play N64 games in HD via EMU by cheekyboy · 2008-10-01 22:08 · Score: 1

Surely its just a step up in its engine,renderer to do the current Wii games under HD.
Thing is.... will there by a Wii emu out before 2011 that can do HD? Surely its so lowly powered a quadcore 3.6ghz chip in 2009 will be able to do it.
Boot up the n64 emu, the games look decent in HD, its not perfect but better than 320x.

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Have you even played them? by 0p7imu5_P2im3 · 2008-10-02 04:55 · Score: 1

Have you even played them or are you making baseless conjecture from a realm of complete inexperience?
I've played (and at one point recently owned) every Metroid, most FZeros, most Zeldas, and most StarFoxes. You don't change a good thing. Change can ruin a good thing. Nintendo took a huge chance going 3d with Metroid (they already had 5 games that were 2d masterpieces). It worked... so why would they do anything else with it other than make new puzzles for the next game and incremental improvements? Same with Zelda. FZero has been the same racing game all three (or 6) times, just with graphical enhancement.
The best part is that they are meeting consumer demand on these franchises, otherwise they wouldn't be selling like ice cream at a diet clinic.
And another thing, if you've ever, ever, ever bought a mainstream sports game then you can just zip it, because they're much worse on their franchises than Nintendo has ever even remotely considered being with theirs.

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fun by pizzach · 2008-10-02 05:43 · Score: 1

I know you haven't been reading my messages because a few ago I did change it to (u) from (wa). ;-) You need to get off of your high horse. When you get people pissed off, they stop reading, which is exactly what happened to you. I have been saying all along that you type wii to get the correct letters. That is what it is about. You're the one who keeps changing the topic. Who is the one who said that the original poster was asking about waapuro? Just so you know, I have been pasting large parts of my conversation since the beginning. ;-) I think I am going to add you to my friends list. This has been fun and I like searching the webs for info.

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1. Re:fun by Anonymous Coward · 2008-10-02 11:05 · Score: 0
  
  That's to get the letters into the computer. Yes, the romanji is written 'wii'. The kana-rization result of that however, is the katakana 'u', followed by a modifying small 'i' and then another large 'i' or a dash, depending on your preference. You guys aren't disagreeing with each other, you're talking about totally different things.
2. Re:fun by pizzach · 2008-10-03 04:49 · Score: 1
  
  Thanks. It took me a while to figure out what he was saying. He corrected something I said and then added something wrong of his own. It didn't help that I kept copy and pasting my wrong part and didn't notice either. *sigh* It would be nice if slashdot at least supported unicode characters.
  
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