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Africa Leads In IPv6 Adoption

Ian Lamont writes "The recent news that China will run out of IPv4 addresses in a few years points to slow adoption of IPv6 in some developed countries. Now it turns out that the largest number of networks displaying new IPv6 address blocks are registered through AfriNIC, which services networks in Africa and the Indian Ocean. While AfriNIC has a smaller installed base than other regions, many countries in Africa are showing rapid growth in terms of online connectivity."

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  1. More Nigerian spam mail because of more computers by ilovesymbian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear sirs, I am a prince of a country that's caught in war between using ipv4 and ipv6. If you deposit $100,000 I will promise you returns of 10,000 million IPv6 IP addresses. Please send me your account number, SSN, credit card details and other important detail that will help me facilitate the transaction.

    Yours lovingly,

    His Royal Highness Prince of some Nigerian tribe

  2. Simple by SlashDev · · Score: 5, Informative

    because most African networks are being created and not migrated.

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    1. Re:Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      because most African networks are being created and not migrated.

      Of course. African networks are non-migratory.

    2. Re:Simple by dotwaffle · · Score: 1

      I nearly woke up half the street HAH-ing to that one ;)

    3. Re:Simple by hedwards · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That was precisely my thought, it's not that they need the extra addresses or necessarily think they will in the foreseeable future, but everybody else is going that way and it's cheaper to do it now than to redo things in the future.

      That being said, I'm not sure that I'd care to be responsible for saying that at some future time that ipv4 was a mistake for them.

      And either way, everybody else is going ipv6, so they may as well.

    4. Re:Simple by VGPowerlord · · Score: 1

      because most African networks are being created and not migrated.

      Precisely. This is why I tagged this article "duh" and encourage everyone else to do the same.

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    5. Re:Simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Otherwise we'd have to worry about the network speed of an unladen African network.

    6. Re:Simple by davolfman · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure South Africa counts in quite the same economic unit as the rest of the continent.

    7. Re:Simple by denttford · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah, Africa, where the IPs are as plentiful as Zimbabwean dollars.

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  3. The reason they are implementing this by ksd1337 · · Score: 1

    Obviously they're doing this so that Nigerian scammers can never be traced from one IP address.

  4. Makes sense by mangu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Considering that African nations have each a small fraction of the 16 million addresses that the GE corporation has, they need something better than NAT.

    1. Re:Makes sense by neoform · · Score: 5, Informative

      That, and the lack of existing infrastructure that needs to be changed in order to meet IPv6. There probably wasn't a huge "switch" phase involved in having IPv6 deployed, whereas the western world is on IPv4, switching to IPv6 actually takes a lot of work.

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    2. Re:Makes sense by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Speak for yourself, pink boy.

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    3. Re:Makes sense by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      I swear to fucking christ... how do you people not know that a device can have simultaneous, concurrent IPv6 *and* IPv4 connections? There's no "switch" phase involved... the protocols can co-exist! Even on the same wire! (Crazy! I know!)

    4. Re:Makes sense by neoform · · Score: 1

      How many DNS servers do you know of that are currently using IPv6 for name assignment?

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    5. Re:Makes sense by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      Perhaps I'm ignorant... what does "using IPv6 for name assignment?" mean?

    6. Re:Makes sense by neoform · · Score: 1
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    7. Re:Makes sense by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      The word "assignment" does not appear in that text. Searches for "assign" lead me to links about ICANN and an abbreviated account of the VeriSign .COM hijacking debacle.
      Are you trying to say that DNS registrars don't currently communicate to their registrants over IPv6? Or is it possible that you are using the word "assignment" incorrectly?

    8. Re:Makes sense by neoform · · Score: 1

      I don't get into semantic arguments. What I said above was more than clear.

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    9. Re:Makes sense by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      If your meaning was clear, then I would not be asking for clarification.
      Are *you* interested in trolling, or communication?

  5. Re:The US should pay attention by linhares · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, after Congress rejected the bailout, the shares of Campbell Soup went up.

    And I'm NOT making this up!

  6. Latecomers by linhares · · Score: 1

    The great thing about this moment in history is that latecomers can get the cost savings and other positive externalities that took years/decades to develop elsewhere. I, for one, welcome our new... oh well, forget about that one.

    1. Re:Latecomers by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 1

      It's not like it is getting cheaper for the earlier adopters to convert.

    2. Re:Latecomers by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 1

      actually that's exactly what it means.

      if you don't have bundles of hardware to replace and upgrade, you don't have to spend as much money building your network.

  7. I knew Angelina Jolie would trigger ... by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... this massive craze for adoptions in Africa. But never imagined it would extend from H sapiens to IPv6. Go Jolie

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    1. Re:I knew Angelina Jolie would trigger ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      really, really lame.

  8. Being first has no benefit by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You need to enable IPv6 when IPv4 runs out around 2011 so that you can communicate with IPv6-only users. There's no benefit to turning it on early (unless you want to do debugging for vendors). Articles about how some country or another is "ahead" or "behind" in IPv6 are misguided because they're measuring the wrong thing. What is important is not who is running IPv6 today, but who is buying IPv6-capable equipment today so that they can turn it on "for free" in 2011.

    Also, the summary propagates the old China IPv4 myth; in reality China will run out of IPv4 at the same time as the rest of the world.

    1. Re:Being first has no benefit by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No benefit? You can get free porn via turning on ipv6. See more here.

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    2. Re:Being first has no benefit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      No benefit? You can get free porn via turning on ipv6. See more here.

      All I see is

      May update

      We've now got all the content and servers ready. After a few last minute copyright license issues are resolved, we launch soon! Status updates have been posted to the mailing list. Subscribe, or check the archives for the latest discussion.

      This page is describing the IPv6 experiment itself, and is primarily intended for networking researchers and software professionals to learn about and discuss the experiment. If you're here for the free content, it's not here! We're not ready for the world to know about this experiment yet, so don't go submitting this to Slashdot or Digg until the actual site is up.

      Emphasis mine. They obviously have a different definition of soon than I do.

    3. Re:Being first has no benefit by mikael_j · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except the project is not yet up and running, so it's quite useless even for those of us who do have IPv6 connectivity...

      /Mikael

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    4. Re:Being first has no benefit by phantomcircuit · · Score: 1

      no there isn't, and i quote

      This page is describing the IPv6 experiment itself, and is primarily intended for networking researchers and software professionals to learn about and discuss the experiment. If you're here for the free content, it's not here! We're not ready for the world to know about this experiment yet, so don't go submitting this to Slashdot or Digg until the actual site is up.

    5. Re:Being first has no benefit by Scutter · · Score: 1

      No benefit? You can get free porn via turning on ipv6.

      You mean "eventually at some future unannounced date, but not right now". The last update was four months ago and it still says "coming soon".

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    6. Re:Being first has no benefit by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      You need to enable IPv6 when IPv4 runs out around 2011 so that you can communicate with IPv6-only users. There's no benefit to turning it on early (unless you want to do debugging for vendors). Articles about how some country or another is "ahead" or "behind" in IPv6 are misguided because they're measuring the wrong thing. What is important is not who is running IPv6 today, but who is buying IPv6-capable equipment today so that they can turn it on "for free" in 2011.

      You may not get much of a benefit, other than a static IP address are freedom from NAT. Just make sure to bitch to your ISP about wanting ISP. Oh, and you will probably want the Apple Airport Extreme, if you don't want to have to hack you DSL router, since it is the only one that currently supports IPv6 out of the box.

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    7. Re:Being first has no benefit by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      Except the project is not yet up and running, so it's quite useless even for those of us who do have IPv6 connectivity...

      So did you realize that before or after you got hooked up with IPv6?

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    8. Re:Being first has no benefit by halltk1983 · · Score: 1

      That's one Hell of a priapism...

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    9. Re:Being first has no benefit by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      "We anticipate beginning this experiment in the February-March timeframe."

      Of course there's no year attached. So presumably they'll run it from their abode in Jupiter orbit, in 2097, when at least 5% of the network will have switched.

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    10. Re:Being first has no benefit by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      I remember that page reading pretty much identically over a year ago.. so it isn't new.

      IMO it's just a practical joke to make people say 'free porn' and go to it. The dates say the last update was January this year.

      If it *isn't* a practical joke.. if it really *does* take 18 months to setup an ipv6 web site, ipv6 is doomed.

    11. Re:Being first has no benefit by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 1

      Ciscos do as well (much better than the apple jobbie too in my experience).

    12. Re:Being first has no benefit by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      My router, an old Aptiva, certainly would support IPv6. What my DSL modem supports when operated as a router is irrelevant since I have no intention of enable those features.

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    13. Re:Being first has no benefit by mikael_j · · Score: 1

      Before, actually. But I've been checking out the site every now and then just to see if they plan on ever getting it up and running.

      /Mikael

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  9. If you are just starting by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you were building a network when you had nothing before, why not start with IPv6.

    1. Re:If you are just starting by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

      Well, the rest of the world can't reach you.

      I guess that could be considered a feature.

  10. Re:'Africa' is a racist term by deft · · Score: 1

    Wow, all that info, and not one suggestion for how someone trying to describe a continent's IP trends (which i agree, was pretty much a direct racists attack) should address that continent.

    Notice, i dont know what to call it now either.

    help a dude out man.

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  11. Re:The US should pay attention by linhares · · Score: 5, Funny

    C'mon moderators, THIS SHIT IS NOT FUNNY!

    From The Economist:

    The Dow Jones Industrial Average finished down by 7%, and suffered its biggest-ever points loss. Perhaps fittingly in an economy that is in danger of sliding into depression, the only stock among the 500 in the S&P index that finished higher was Campbell's Soup.

  12. Re:'Africa' is a racist term by Vagnaard · · Score: 1
    How does this make Africa a racist term.

    The etymology of the name Africa is interesting but it does not give a "bad" connotation to Africa. I never heard of anybody calling someone an African instead of some real racist term.

    Even more so... Isn't there white African people ? I'm not sure someone from South Africa (White or Black) would take offense at being called an African.

    And ... How would you propose that we call that entire continent ?

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  13. Re:and in unrelated news... by OverlordQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Jeez, the first new waves of botnets are from the third world. Script kiddies and mass mailers will be so proud!

    Not really. You can't exactly scan an IPv6 range with the same efficiency as you can a IPv4 range. The chances of finding a live machine on the other end is really really really .... really small.

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  14. Re:The US should pay attention by rugatero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being modded funny doesn't mean they didn't believe you - true things can be funny too, although perhaps this is only funny in a "well, you've gotta laugh or you'd cry" kind of way.

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  15. A little too easy by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Its pretty easy to adopt a new standard when there was nothing in place yet to begin with,
    come on...what do they have over there 4 or 5 servers ...tops?

    Seriously, when I was offered a contract to develop a government project in Africa,
    I was told there was so much corruption in government, that even if we developed our
    software, it probably would not be used, as there was too many people wanting to
    keep the present day systems, as this was the way they made the extra revenues, and
    able to make their mortgages. It was a smoke screen to show there was development
    but not that it would actually be used.

  16. Re:'Africa' is a racist term by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    How would you propose that we call that entire continent ?

    The continent formally known as Africa?

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  17. Re:Slackers! by rugatero · · Score: 2, Funny

    He's probably using IPv6. His post got delayed by the transition mechanism.

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  18. Re:'Africa' is a racist term by pieleric · · Score: 2, Informative

    For the info, the wikipedia article proposes 5 different etymologies, none related to this one.

    Actually, I cannot even find references to a Greek king named Afros. The closer mythical Greek I found is Aphrodite, but that has a rather different connotation!

    Really, you should not believe everything you read on the internet.

  19. Re:Slackers! by davester666 · · Score: 3, Informative

    what's shocking is that it was 4 minutes before first post!

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  20. Re:How many? by maxume · · Score: 1

    Google for "How can I be less of an idiot".

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  21. Re:'Africa' is a racist term by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    And ... How would you propose that we call that entire continent ?

          India?

          Hey, it worked before...

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  22. Re:The US should pay attention by grub · · Score: 1


    Your comment made me think of that old Dead Kennedys song "Soup is Good Food". As relevant now as it was in The Day.

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  23. The world is changing, brother by linhares · · Score: 1

    ever heard of Ubuntu?

  24. Re:and in unrelated news... by El_Ehmenopio · · Score: 1

    I doubt 409ers could come from anywhere but africa. 409 is a reference to the Nigeria criminal code.

  25. Simple solution by saigon_from_europe · · Score: 5, Funny

    I really don't know what is this fuss about lack of IP numbers.

    If we already write them as xxx.yyy.zzz.ttt, why we stop at 255? We could simply go up to 999! Even better, we could use the letters too. Imagine all the possibilities if we take separately lower case and upper case!

    And finally, when we exhaust these too, we could move to unicode.

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    1. Re:Simple solution by thetartanavenger · · Score: 2

      255 = (2 ^ 8) - 1, or two to the power eight minus one.

      It's the maximum number that can be made with 8 bits in binary, and hence eight wires between to different chips at the hardware level. Instead of going to 999, it would have to either be:
      (2 ^ 9) - 1 = 511 or
      (2 ^ 10) - 1 = 1023
      else you'd just be wasting a large section available bandwidth.

      Not all of the world runs on the decimal system..

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    2. Re:Simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      There are 10 types of people in this world.

      Those that understand BINARY, and those that dont.

    3. Re:Simple solution by creature124 · · Score: 1

      Not so simple.

      255 is the largest number than can be fit into 8 bits. If we were to allow addresses up to 999 then the entire TCI/IP protocol stack would have to be redesigned to allow for more bits in an IP address. Which would of course cause exactly the same issue the world has with IPv6.

    4. Re:Simple solution by Fumus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah. And people would get IP's like "eat.his.ass.out". Great idea.

    5. Re:Simple solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      --- <- the joke

      \o/ <- you
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    6. Re:Simple solution by owlstead · · Score: 1

      Slashdot, where we will chop you up when you don't get it. All those limbs!

  26. Re:How many? by El_Ehmenopio · · Score: 1

    Your ignorance apalls me. Please do not ever leave the confines of slashdot. love -The Internet.

  27. Re:Slackers! by porky_pig_jr · · Score: 1

    > His post got delayed by the transition mechanism.

    or rather by the Beowulf of those.

  28. It's not Japan? by assantisz · · Score: 1

    I always thought that Japan has been the leader in IPv6 deployment for quite a while now considering that the Japanese government is backing IPv6.

    1. Re:It's not Japan? by assantisz · · Score: 1

      I hate to reply to my own posts but I eventually RTFA and the summary got it wrong. Africa has the highest percentage of IPv6 networks of all the networks given out by AfriNIC so far.

    2. Re:It's not Japan? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      There islands in the Indian ocean. People live on them.

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    3. Re:It's not Japan? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      I seem to have attached the above to the wrong article. Sorry.

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  29. Re:Obligatory... by Vagnaard · · Score: 1
    Don't worry, your joke was actually half funny.

    changes from the "All of the x computers they have" jokes.

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  30. Re:and in unrelated news... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1

    I doubt 409ers could come from anywhere but africa. 409 is a reference to the Nigeria criminal code.

    And that would be 419. 409 is a cleaner or a Beach Boys song.;)

    The term '419' has become generalized since the orignal scams were so heavily located in Nigeria, but people use the term fairly generally.

  31. Re:The US should pay attention by tsalmark · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can you say Shadenfreude. Not all of us live in the USA.

  32. Nothing new at all by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This does not just apply to networks, it applies to just about everything. When Germany installed new phone systems after the war, guess what: they were the most up to date and automated systems in the world.

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  33. Re:Why not stay with IPv4? by PFI_Optix · · Score: 1

    Nigeria.

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  34. Re:The US should pay attention by david.given · · Score: 1

    Well, after Congress rejected the bailout, the shares of Campbell Soup went up.

    Campbell's Condensed soup, which you dilute with equal parts water, is ideal for stocking your emergency bunker.

    (It's also damned nice. I particularly like their tomato and rice soup, which they've discontinued, sob. And I don't even have a bunker.)

  35. Hi, welcome to Slashdot by XanC · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're right, but you still lose. You'll get the hang of it soon; stick with it.

  36. Re:'Africa' is a racist term by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

    Really, you should not believe everything you read on the internet.

    I don't believe you! /waits for his head to explode from the paradox /remembers he's not a robot

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  37. Indian ocean by Gen.+Malaise · · Score: 1

    "which services networks in Africa and the Indian Ocean." There are networks in the Indian Ocean? Thats the real news here.....

    1. Re:Indian ocean by jagdish · · Score: 1

      Internet connectivity to Mumbai is via undersea links from UAE (dubai I think). The other connection is from Singapore. So yeah you could say that there is a network cable running underneath the Indian ocean.

  38. It has been done by mangu · · Score: 2, Funny

    If we already write them as xxx.yyy.zzz.ttt, why we stop at 255?

    The answer is, we don't. For an example of an IP address with numbers going over 255, watch this movie

  39. Re:More Nigerian spam mail because of more compute by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

    They might also email you to say, "Happy Independence Day'.

  40. Re:Slackers! by davester666 · · Score: 1

    This being slashdot, I didn't actually look at the timestamps

    However, now that you have questioned the validity of this fact, I did go back and look.

    From the header:
    Posted by timothy on Wednesday October 01, @12:22PM

    From the first post:
    by ilovesymbian (1341639) on Wednesday October 01, @12:26PM (#25223327)

    From the calculations in my head, the delta between 12:26PM and 12:22PM is 4 minutes (+-1 minute).

    But perhaps Slashdot is presenting you with a different first post...

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  41. The joy of statistics: "Journalists" being wrong by fuzzel · · Score: 2, Informative

    The numbers to add, so to NOT confuse the people who now shout that Africa is going so great:

    See SixXS Ghost Route Hunter for the live data:

    * 6bone (144) (phased out on 6/6/2006)
    * RIPE (1119)
    * APNIC (490)
    * ARIN (706)
    * LACNIC (115)
    * AfriNIC (60)

    There are thus ONLY 60 IPv6 allocations in the African region, if you then follow the link, you will find the following nice thing: "Thus 19 (33.33%) networks are currently correctly announced."
    As there barely is no Internet in Africa, (especially when looking at ASNs, and remember that a lot of US ASN's are used in Africa) yes you might reach 22%.

    Wow, yes that is a lot compared to the rest of the world:
    AFRINIC - 19 (33.33%)
    LACNIC - 37 (32.17%)
    APNIC - 223 (45.70%)
    ARIN - 239 (34.00%)
    RIPE - 548 (49.02%)

    Europe wins again! :)

    Statistics again show how easily things can be misunderstood and interpreted in various ways.

  42. Re:and in unrelated news... by hab136 · · Score: 1

    Not really. You can't exactly scan an IPv6 range with the same efficiency as you can a IPv4 range. The chances of finding a live machine on the other end is really really really .... really small.

    I wonder about that. It depends on what method the site uses for the local part of the IP address. I imagine a number of ranges will start with :1 and just number in order.

  43. Re:'Africa' is a racist term by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

    And ... How would you propose that we call that entire continent ?

    I know, I know! A land of melanine abundancy!