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OpenOffice.org 3.0 Is Officially Here

SNate writes "After a grinding three-year development cycle, the OpenOffice.org team has finally squeezed out a new release. New features include support for the controversial Microsoft OOXML file format, multi-page views in Writer, and PDF import via an extension. Linux Format has an overview of the new release, asking the question: is it really worth the 3.0 label?"

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  1. Re:Forbidden by entgod · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not really the summary at fault. Seems like the whole http://www.openoffice.org/ is giving the same response.

  2. As always, KDE leads the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    is it really worth the 3.0 label?

    Look, it's simple: 3.0 is not really 3.0, but it should be considered 3.0-developer-alpha-gold. The next release will be 3.2-beta-silver-GTi, followed quickly by 3.1.1.0-gold-gold-always-believe-in-your-soul, which may (or may not) be ready for end users. Provided no show-stopper bugs are found in that (& if they are they'll just be re-classified as "WORKSFORME" and the submitter flamed), the final 3.0.1.45 version will be released to end users (apart from those in Arizona and Ohio. They have to wait for 3.1.5)

    This is so obvious you'd have to be an idiot not to understand it! Duh!

  3. Google Cache of Mirror List by xaoslaad · · Score: 5, Informative

    The main page is ./'ed but it appears the mirrors are still fine. Just use the mirror list in Google Cache.

    http://74.125.113.104/search?q=cache:chsA7FTyP3wJ:distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/+mirrors+openoffice&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

  4. Re:Forbidden by sammyF70 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think liquidpele just uncovered that Open Office is actually subsidized by the Pastafarian Church.

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  5. Great ... err ... by Selanit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Or it will be once the openoffice.org sysadmin fixes their server. Major egg on the face there.

    Anyway, this release has one feature that I've been longing after for years now: proper support for marginal comments.

    While OO.o has long been capable of opening documents with comments in them, the user interface for reading those comments sucked HARD. The presence of a note was indicated by a tiny, light yellow rectangle at the end of the sentence. Easy to miss. And then if you wanted to actually read the comment, you had to hover your mouse over it to trigger a small yellow pop-up box containing the comment text (which would be cut off if it was a long comment). Basically, actually READING a commented document in OO.o was not practical.

    This new version is much, much better. I tried it out using one of the copies that hit the mirrors before the official release, and it's soooo much better. Comments now actually show up in the margins, they've got little lines connecting them to the section of the document they apply to, and they're color coded by author. Hallelujah! Now I can finally quit depending on Word for grading student papers.

    1. Re:Great ... err ... by fabs64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've used OO.o for my resume for a few years now with no issues, but that may be because I try to keep a resume plain and simple.

      Btw, unless word is specifically requested, pdf resume's look a lot nicer.

    2. Re:Great ... err ... by amorsen · · Score: 4, Informative

      Can you explain how PDf resume's look a lot nicer? It's going to look the same as a printed copy which will look the same as the copy in the word processor you are printing it from.

      If the word processor is Microsoft Word, that depends on whether the recipient has a) the same Word version and language (and therefore the same platform) b) the same printer model and c) the necessary fonts.

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  6. PDF by ledow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The only thing of any interest, then, is the PDF import/editing/export. Ironic, considering that the ad's on /. for this article seemed to consist mostly of Adobe Acrobat ads...

    But if it really *can* import any PDF, allow basic editing and export, that could really be a boon. Other apps that allow that are either incredibly expensive, horrible to use or just too out-of-date. Does it support "encrypted" PDF's if you have the passwords, etc.? Does it allow image/text editing/extraction from a PDF? If so, then this update would be worth it for that alone.

    The rest is just eye candy and basic bug fixes (e.g. >256 columns in Calc).

    1. Re:PDF by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's an ad?

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    2. Re:PDF by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's one of those things that used to pop up and ask us to buy stuff before adblocker came out.

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    3. Re:PDF by ozphx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And if 'they' insist on Word files, you wouldn't want to work there anyway

      Wrong. It means they are used to paying more than they should for things. Sounds like a great environment for negotiating a starting salary in.

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    4. Re:PDF by Ynot_82 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, it can really import PDF's
      tested this out on the RC's (haven't tested the final release yet) and it worked OK
      not great, but OK

      there seemed to be no problem at all loading a simple PDF'd document or spreadsheet
      importing took a little longer than I'd have hoped, but I got a fully editable document, formatting intact

      just for kicks, I loaded the PDF of my motherboard manual into OO.o just to see
      and while I did get editable text, it did not do particularly well on complex formatting
      in particular, changes in page orientation & dimensions threw it, resulting in some pages being malformed

      Just from briefly playing around with it, I've found the following:
      - Importing a PDF'd spreadsheet gets you a tabulated word processing document, with spreadsheet rows & columns made up of drawing lines and text in textboxes

      - sometimes (haven't been able to narrow down what causes it) random spaces are inserted into words
      "Some text" may become "Som e te xt"

      - Borders around objects (textboxes, shapes) are sometimes inconsistent

      - no support for transparent PNG's (alpha channel turns to solid black)

    5. Re:PDF by Zashi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wrong Wrong Wrong. Sorry. When I was applying for the job I have now I had to send in my resume in word format after initially sending it in PDF format. Big deal. I saved as a .doc file and sent it in. I prefer pdf because I can be sure it'll look right but OO.o usually gets MS doc format right for me.

      As for not wanting to work for a company that insists on MS docs... well. That really only speaks to how HR works. I work for a staffing company that mainly supplies employees for IBM. I'm a tester in IBM's superlab. I get to play with big iron servers: stuff like quad 6-core machines (yeah, 24 cores in a rackmount system). I use linux for my workstation with no problems. I come in and leave when I wish (we report our time via a webapp) and as long as my work is done and I'm here when I say I'm here management has no problems.

      Don't be so quick to judge a company.

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    6. Re:PDF by dmbasso · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you only look for money, instead of quality of life...

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    7. Re:PDF by Bert64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes...
      Using word also forces you to use windows (yes i am aware there is a very different and not fully compatible mac version)... So it takes away your freedom to choose your operating platform...

      It also makes it much harder to write standalone scripts to parse the documents, and if you want to use macros (which require the entire runtime bloat of word running) you only have one language you can use, which is going to be deprecated soon (and the mac version has its own incompatible language for macros).

      I can be far more productive in my job with a linux workstation and files in open easily manipulated formats.

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    8. Re:PDF by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The things that pays for the bandwidth, servers, and salaries of those that run Slashdot.
      I would really like to white list Slashdot but every time I have tried they put up some stupid animated banner.
      Really is too bad since I would bet the ads on Slashdot are for things I may be interested in.

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  7. I'll wait a few days for fixes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a few days 3.01, 3.02 and 3.03 will be coming out, so I'll wait for those fixes to come out before I put down my hard-earned money

    1. Re:I'll wait a few days for fixes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You jest, but $0 here, $0 there might start to add up. Sure it's not much money to some, but unlike many other computer users I already spent $0 on my operating system, $0 on my DVR software, and $0 on nearly every application I run. Now OOo is asking for yet another $0 just to run their little "Office suite".

    2. Re:I'll wait a few days for fixes by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're the reason the economy is tanking! You must consume and spend lots of money! All this irresponsible zero expenditures are the cause of all our woes! Oh I'm sure the overspending by Congress plays a small role, but you are just plain EVIL!!!

  8. Re:OOXML by waferhead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "How could they possibly implement OOXML support in OpenOffice? We've been hearing over and over how the OOXML spec is so convoluted and ill-specified that it is impossible for anyone but Microsoft to implement!"

    I know you're a troll, but I'll bite back...

    This may be be the first actual OOXML IMPLEMENTATION in a release version of ANY office suite... ;-)

  9. Johnny Walker by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 4, Funny

    They should just kill the minor versioning altogether and move to a "red label"/"black label" system.

  10. NO ! It's a miracle ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Despite your atheist propaganda, you cannot deny that we whitnessing a miragulous miracle of HIs widsom and glory in full extend.

    HIs noodle appendages haveth thouched the server and thus it displays his words to enlighten the unbelievers.

    Behold the word: "ContentHelmNoodle"

    In this time of unrest and crisis his tells us to trust in his tomatoe sauce and that we will be protected by his mercy and meatballs.

  11. PDF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Send your resume as PDF. As long as even different Word versions can't open other Word files correctly there is no hope formatting will be preserved.

    And if 'they' insist on Word files, you wouldn't want to work there anyway, as they are clearly deluded and stupid beyond measure.

    Not kidding either, actually.

  12. Re:OOXML by Clueless+Nick · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Linux Format article says it can import docx, pptx etc., which means they are Microsoft Office 2007 XML files, and not OOXML, the Published Standard.

    Flawed summary.

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  13. Re:Forbidden by nmg196 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ContentHelmNoodle?! WTF?

    The next thing we'll be serving our pages with ParkingBrakeTurboAubergines.

  14. Re:Pre-Slashdotted by not+already+in+use · · Score: 4, Funny

    THATSWHATSHESAID!

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  15. The Squeeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    After a grinding three-year development cycle, the OpenOffice.org team has finally squeezed out a new release.

    Maybe they should have just eaten a lot of prunes.

  16. OOXML by krygny · · Score: 4, Funny

    OpenOffice.org: "It's fully compliant and supports Microsoft OOXML file format."

    Microsoft: "AHAAAAHH!! That's not possible. Uh, ... I mean ... uh, ..." (Psst, hey, did we miss something? How'd they do that?)

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  17. OO.o makes great .doc resumes! by Benanov · · Score: 4, Funny

    I make my resume in OO.o and save it to .ODF.

    I then take screenshots of it (or print to postscript), then paste the cropped screenshots into OO.o and save that result as a .DOC file.

    And hey, it keeps formatting exactly as you want it! :)