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FBI Warns of Sweeping Global Threat To US Cybersecurity

GovIT Geek writes "The FBI's newly appointed chief of cyber security warned today that 'a couple dozen' countries are eager to hack US government, corporate, and military networks. While he refused to provide country-specific details, FBI Cyber Division Chief Shawn Henry told reporters at a roundtable that cooperation with foreign law enforcement is one of the Bureau's highest priorities and added the United States has had incredible success fostering overseas partnerships."

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  1. Dark days of paranoia and spying. by twitter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'a couple dozen' countries are eager to hack U.S. government, corporate and military networks. While he refused to provide country-specific details

    Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah.

    While I cannot take the time to name all the men in the State Department who have been named as members of the Communist Party and members of a spy ring, I have here in my hand a list of 205.

    But the second quote happened at the beginning of a horrible paranoia based on a real external threat. We still have the apparatus of that paranoia, though most of it was outlawed in the late 1970s and the only credible external threat is now our largest trade partner and "most favorable nation." Today we have secret "terrorist" blacklists with more than a million names. Domestic spying, especially web based spying, has jumped to levels that would make the freedom loving senator from Wisconsin angry. Anti-death penalty and peace groups are among those watched. Shame, isn't it?

    Shoring up the nation's IT against spying is as easy as dumping the prevalent non free software used by most big dumb companies. This would also save the country hundreds of billions of dollars in licensing fees and other headaches unique to non free software. The problem is that it would make wiretapping very difficult or impossible.

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    1. Re:Dark days of paranoia and spying. by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      FOSS software isn't immune, there have been some terrible security flaws which have gone unnoticed for a long time. Of course proprietry software has even more flaws but profits pay for a team of guys in nice suits to give powerpoint presentations on how good it is and take the head of purchasing out to dinner.

      I would be very surprised if there weren't a few NSA plants in the dev teams of some of the more popular linux distros. How hard would it really be for a tallented coder to slip in a few subtle flaws to be exploited later if he's on the dev team and in every other way does the job very well.

    2. Re:Dark days of paranoia and spying. by zappepcs · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I hope you are modded up handily.... what you say is the truth, and the only reason that such information makes the news. If govt. agencies were doing their job as prescribed, it would not be news. This is simply creating a new evil-doer to distract the minds of Americans while the government continues it's wholesale grab of liberties and Constitutional pinata frenzy.

      Mr Orwell would be happy to note that in 4 more years, most Americans will be on a terrorist watch list, augmented heartily by those signing up for unemployment benefits. How much farther down this rabbit hole must we go before government whistle blowers become folk heroes? Will our grandchildren hear stories of Babe the blue ox, superman, and joe whistleblower? I hope so.

    3. Re:Dark days of paranoia and spying. by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How much farther down this rabbit hole must we go before government whistle blowers become folk heroes? Will our grandchildren hear stories of Babe the blue ox, superman, and joe whistleblower? I hope so.

      I hope not! That means that whistle blowers are so rare that they must be celebrated. I hope they are more common than bus drivers.

    4. Re:Dark days of paranoia and spying. by somersault · · Score: 4, Insightful

      FOSS software is swiss cheese for security, it's just that not many people eat it and therefore don't realise it has so many holes.

      And gross generalisations are always wrong too! Like this one.

      It really depends on the project. Most obvious projects to look at: Apache, PGP, Linux, etc. Very widespread adoption, and nothing like 'swiss cheese' in terms of security. FOSS software can be amazingly secure with the right guidance.

      Twitter is making gross generalisations too, of course.

      A well conceptualised FOSS project can obviously be just as good as any well conceptualised cllosed source project. Popular Open Source projects will be able to have more developers looking over the code though, and are likely to thank people for disclosing security vulnerabilities, and patch them up quickly. Sometimes closed source vendors get really pissed off when people disclose vulnerabilities - even when they've been given a while to get a patch sorted out and have done nothing about it.

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    5. Re:Dark days of paranoia and spying. by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why need to be sly and plant agents? The NSA can just go to whatever corporation and say "We want this" and 9 times out of 10 the corporation will hand over whatever they are asking for without any hassle.

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    6. Re:Dark days of paranoia and spying. by easyTree · · Score: 3, Informative

      In most other countries corporations usually don't just hand over data to a foreign agency if asked politely

      Fortunately for the US, politeness isn't mandatory - they seem to find it quite easy to pressure a country to do whatever they like: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/19/us_pushes_sweden/ - *cough* assholes

  2. What's a Cyber? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm now worried that mine's at risk.

  3. no kidding? by Utini420 · · Score: 5, Funny

    News Flash: Guy in new job declares new job important!

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  4. Yay! More Security Theater!!! by Garrick68 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and here come the cries from the government "Quick we pass these laws to protect us!!!" Yeah right...

  5. They're threatening cybers? by KeithIrwin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Threats against cybers? Uh-oh. I've been cybering all morning. Heck, I even did cam to cam once. No global sweepers have threatened me yet, but now I'm scared. I hope they don't hurt me.

  6. Cybers? by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 4, Funny

    Since when is it the FBI's mandate to protect online sex chatting?

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  7. What... by cosmocain · · Score: 4, Insightful
    ...an abundant interview:

    . While he refused to provide country-specific details[...]

    He then hinted that an announcement[...]

    Henry would not comment in detail[...]

    He shied away from commenting[...]

  8. No duh... by cavis · · Score: 3, Informative

    So a newly appointed government official announces something that we in the network world have known for years and suddenly it is news? I think that anyone who has any amount of experience in computers would know this by now. If I had a dollar for every attack on my network from Asia, I'd take us all to lunch.

  9. well, he would say that - wouldn't he? by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Insightful
    what's the point of having a cyber-tzar if he (or she) is then going to turn around and tell you everything's fine?

    Of course he will talk up the threat - that's his job. Since there's no way that these intangibles can ever be measured, he's on pretty secure ground too. If no threats materialise it's because of his vigilance and the skill of his team - not because there were never any real threats to begin with.

    If a threat does turn into a real attack - well, he needs more money, powers and curtailed freedoms to ensure it doesn't happen again.

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  10. Job Security 101 by mpapet · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is no doubt there are bad people that would like to do bad things to others in the world, but why anyone takes this kind of propaganda seriously is beyond me.

    It's more than likely the amount of funding he gets is directly proportional to the amount of fear mongering produced.

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  11. It's on Topic! by pete-classic · · Score: 3, Funny

    Aight, I put on my robe and wizard hat.

    -Peter

  12. USAF Cyber-Command Demoted Relation by jznomad · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://defensesystems.com/Articles/2008/10/Air-Force-demotes-Cyberspace-Command.aspx The Air Force announced last week that it has backed off even further from its grand plan to establish a cyberspace command as the military entity primarily responsible for securing and conducting offensive operations in cyberspace. The Air Force launched a provisional Cyberspace Command more than a year ago and scheduled a formal command launch for Oct. 1. However, officials delayed that effort after the departures of Air Force Chief of Staff T. Michael "Buzz" Moseley and Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne, who were fired for incidents involving the mishandling of nuclear detonators and weapons.

  13. The penalty for threatening cybers by snarfies · · Score: 4, Funny

    You are inferior. Man will be reborn as Cybermen, but you will perish under maximum deletion. Delete, delete, delete, DELETE!

  14. I'm nervous that he would mention corporate nets by Sloppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The implication of a government person saying we have a problem, is that the government should do something about it. And for the military and other government networks, that's fine.

    But why do we ("we" being the government) need to do anything to protect corporate (or any other private) computers? The owner/operators of computers can protect them on their own. Just stop running foreign code.

    This isn't like physical security, where, say, IBM can't (and shouldn't have the means) to protect themselves from nuclear ICBM attack. It makes sense to put government in charge of securing the country against certain threats, and that job (if stated broadly enough) is arguably the only reason we need government to exist at all. But cyber-security isn't one of those situations, because individuals and groups can protect themselves, without putting anyone else at risk.

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  15. Re:I'm nervous that he would mention corporate net by Thorizdin · · Score: 4, Informative

    The implication of a government person saying we have a problem, is that the government should do something about it. And for the military and other government networks, that's fine.

    But why do we ("we" being the government) need to do anything to protect corporate (or any other private) computers? The owner/operators of computers can protect them on their own. Just stop running foreign code.

    This isn't like physical security, where, say, IBM can't (and shouldn't have the means) to protect themselves from nuclear ICBM attack. It makes sense to put government in charge of securing the country against certain threats, and that job (if stated broadly enough) is arguably the only reason we need government to exist at all. But cyber-security isn't one of those situations, because individuals and groups can protect themselves, without putting anyone else at risk.

    If you're premise was correct your position would have some merit, but because you're probably thinking very narrowly about the problem you've missed some very big issues.

    First, much of our infrastructure is run by private companies. Think about how effective inter agency communication isn't when phones and cell phones don't work (think Katrina and 9-11). Our utilities are almost completely under private control and that includes nuclear reactors, dams, and the electrical grid. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission sets standards for security, but computer systems and security (both virtual and real) are all handled by private companies, most often contractors.

    Second, even non-infrastructure companies can be hugely disruptive. Think what could happen if someone gained control over the automated systems that report on the prices of stocks, commodities, bonds, and other financial mechanisms. Creating a run on a bank, Wall Street, or a huge fluctuations in the value of the Dollar would be trivial if someone just had access for a short time period. If someone had undetected access and a more subtle mindset the damage could be both much longer term and much worse.

    Finally, even companies and organizations that don't control infrastructure or financial systems can have a huge impact if their systems are compromised. Your example of IBM's being able to protect themselves without risk to others is also critically flawed. Last year IBM did $1.43 billion in consulting work for the US government. (1.4% of total 2007 revenue) You don't suppose that in that some of the work is classified? I know some of it is and further, given continued access, I could see the new stuff as the contracts are awarded to Big Blue. This also ignores the disruption that they could create because they are a well trusted ASN on the Internet. The sheer number of workstations and servers they have would also make them attractive to operate as part of a bot net.

    In short, there are lots of ways that any large company can hurt the rest of us if they aren't responsible with their security. Now, I'm not buying into the idea that the government being responsible for everyone's network security, they couldn't if they wanted to, but right now network security is something that a lot of companies haven't taken seriously and they _can_ harm us with their negligence.